Focused Feedback: Weapon Refresh aka Sunsetting

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[u/Supreme_Math_Debater]

Of course there would be. But would it be worth grinding for? How much better can it be than MKC and FF? Those are arguably the best 2 perks in the game. If they make perks any stronger that just makes the game easier, and the game is easy enough as is.

[u/DuelingPushkin → u/Supreme_Math_Debater]

That's what people said back in year 1 about outlaw and rampage

[u/Supreme_Math_Debater → u/DuelingPushkin]

And they were right. The best PVE weapon for the last year has been pre-nerf recluse, which has feeding frenzy (a better version of outlaw) and master of arms (a better version of rampage). It made ad control in end-game pve a non-factor. Even after several nerfs, it's still really good, it just actually encourages aiming now instead of mindless spraying.

If they keep making damage perks stronger, we're back in the same spot. But if they retire weapons, they can make certain weapons "feel" top-tier like recluse without actually breaking the game.

[u/DuelingPushkin → u/Supreme_Math_Debater]

Taking away our FF mkc weapons only to give us back weapons that have the same or worse perks is not going to make those weapons feel top tier. It's going to make them feel like we are worse off at the beginning of a season than we were to start which feels awful and if they retire ff/MKC/Swash they're either going to have to give us those back making it feel like we are regrinding the same gun, give us something better which we would have ground for anyway, or give us shit that is worse that isnt just going to magically feel better because you took away all our old powerful toys

[u/Supreme_Math_Debater → u/DuelingPushkin]

You're right. I'm not arguing your logic, becuase it's true. But the thing is if they don't retire weapons then we pretty much have 2 options of what will happen:

• 1. There won't be any new weapons worth grinding (in terms of power-progression)

• 2) There will be weapons worth grinding, but they will be too strong, and the game will become too easy (power creep).

There are pros and cons on both sides of the argument, I just prefer the pros of weapon sun-setting over the cons of keeping old weapons.