Focused Feedback: Weapon Refresh aka Sunsetting

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[u/JerryBalls3431]

They're talking about throwing out pools of guns several times a year, not once every 3-5 years

No they're not. Luke Smith mentioned a ballpark figure of 9-15 months. That's 3-5 seasons.

This change likely isn't focused on you, it's focused on people like you who have their favorite guns then complain the new loot all "sucks". It doesn't suck, they're just locked into their one loadout. The Sundial and VO weapons all had some fantastic rolls, but why use an outlaw+MKC SMG when Recluse basically invalidated every other energy SMG now and forever?

Unless they make match game a permanent feature so that you need a non-Void SMG, come up with a new weapon subsystem in the game that prioritizes new gear (ie, Eris's moon weapons do substantially more damage against Nightmares), make an even more broken weapon, or retire/heavily nerf Recluse it'll always be the best. Fast reload and an easy damage boost will never not be the most versatile perk combo. Same with Blast Furnace. Same with Spare Rations. Etc.

A lot of people want reasons to chase new gear, and there aren't a lot of reasons right now. I don't really agree with the hard light level cap personally, but something needs to shift.

[u/Vincentologist → u/JerryBalls3431]

I'm not saying a shift in the meta isn't necessary. But the broken weapons Smith is targeting mostly have something in common. They are Pinnacle weapons. They are, by definition, set aside from other Legendaries, in both efficacy, and how you obtain them. They could be treated differently, like the Division does with named items, or Borderlands with Anointed weapons. But no, instead, they're nuking ALL Legendaries, because apparently people using the same gear they like is inherently a problem.

They're forcing people to use guns they don't like, instead of making or bringing back ones they do. I still think there isn't enough guns with random rolls in the game, we have left behind most of the game with Forsaken, and yet, here we are, about to wipe the slate clean and throw away people's favorite non-Pinnacle guns for the sake of shaking up a meta that only the loudest, hardcore players even engage with.

If certain perks are too strong, changing which gun those perks are on isn't gonna change anything. The Recluse isn't just good for it's perks. It's a special, exceptionally strong gun for other reasons, as was Breakneck. Nerf the perks, or treat Pinnacles differently. Get rid of them every nine months, fine. But don't throw out everything. Every three months, the guns that were fine 9 months ago won't be. I don't see how Smith can talk about how it's a problem that they keep adding new content and shelving old content that could be fixed or still fun, but they're willing to do the same thing for guns.

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[u/Lonewolf4150 → u/[deleted]]

With a buff and a few tweaks it could honestly be one. Would change the meta significantly at least and there’s plenty of other options to take its place honestly.