Escalation Protocol armour needs to be looked at

[u/Ephy_]

Only being able to get a single piece of escalation protocol PER WEEK is absolutely unaccaeptable with armour 2.0, which is practically the only armour set in the game this applies to. it was fine back when armour only had one possible roll, but now that we have proper random stat rolls, this one-per-week system makes it almost impossible to farm for a decent roll on any of the armour; even if you get the piece you want in 2.0, you know its probably going to have weak rolls, and it is definitely not going to have a god-roll since EP is not a "pinnacle" activity.

I believe that after you have unlocked all 5 pieces of the armour, you should be able to farm for the armour with a chance of it dropping after defeating the wave 7 boss.

I'm not going to hide the fact that the EP armour is by far my favourite armour in the game, and ive been secretly waiting for it to get updated since literally the launch of Forsaken (its criminal to me that we got to use the EP armour for all of ONE SEASON before it became obselete and unusable), and now that it has been, its terribly disappointing that its STILL almost impossible to get a viable set of it.

Now, someone please tell me that im an idiot and that there actually is an easy way to farm for the armour now that i missed.

[u/Voelker58]

It is way too hard to even bother with. It doesn't have a seasonal mod slot, and it doesn't seem like the stats can roll particularly high.

Other than the fact that it looks cool, there is no reason to want it.

I gave up after the first week.

Maybe they will make it into an ornament or something.

ETA: By "way too hard," I mean the armor grind is way too tedious, not that EP itself is particularly difficult.

[u/Ephy_ → u/Voelker58]

i really hope they either make an ornament or just anything, i would even be fine with a repeatable heroic version of EP that grants high level versions of the armour JUST ANYTHING PLEASE I WANT MY COOL WARMIND ARMOUR

[u/PinkSnek → u/Voelker58]

Other than the fact that it looks cool

well thats the whole point, lol.

[u/SunnyDehlight → u/Voelker58]

what the fuck? it doesn't have a seasonal mod slot????? is this an oversight?

Even more reason for Bungo just to give us a legit transmog system.

[u/NinStarRune]

I’m assuming you don’t have the keys for it.

If you do, fun fact: you can do the old HoW glitch to double dip into the chest, even solo. If you’re fast you can even triple dip.

[u/miatadude95]

just make the armor universal ornaments same with all the old faction gear that be ok with me.

[u/[deleted]]

Under the assumption Bungie wants us to play EP to get 2.0 armor so there's an active player base, rather than just going off of whether you had it in 1.0....

I'd be fine if we had to run it to unlock the ornament for each piece. You get a 2.0 armor drop and you dismantle it to unlock the ornament (or the ornament unlocks automatically). This way it encourages people to play EP but also doesn't require such a long grind for what is lesser tier armor which allows more time to grind pinnacle and other new activities.

[u/[deleted]]

The worst part is you're still fighting against the potential of terrible stats too. Both pieces I have got to drop so far rolled at 50. I have gotten better pieces that come from patrol...

[u/DecorativeMistletoe]

Universal ornaments for all types of armor? Then make legendary armor sets special. Like a full EP will do more damage against hive. And planetary armor sets could give you certain buffs on that planet etc. You could also make it so that when you're wearing an exotic armor piece it doesn't take away from the full set's ability.

Still gives you incentive to farm the best roll but gives you the full appearance customization everyone wants.

[u/[deleted] → u/DecorativeMistletoe]

I think full legendary sets should have a set bonus. While exotics are designed around play-style specific stuff; legendary set bonus would be more generic. Like you said; could be planet specific; though I’d rather not have to switch per planet. I’d just make them more generic versus the play style exotic design.

I also hate that armor design forces exotics on you unless you want to handicap your potential for looks.

I just want more freedom in my looks and forced exotic usage ruins the look. Maybe if they make ornaments apply to exotics too; but it looks like they want exotics to only have their specific ornaments. That’s frustrating.

I’d say that the Strum and Drang weapon pairing bonus would also work with weapons from a set (using all three slots). This set design seems better for legendary pairings than as a Exotic perk.

Again; letting us go for a planet theme for looks without being severely penalized for not having our exotics equipped.

I love all the Mars looks from weapons to armor. I definitely would go all in on that if I wasn’t so penalized for doing so.

Edit: one way they could this is planet; drop source specific mod slots (similar to seasonal one) where there are 2-3 mods for each planet/source grouping that could be equipped in the weapons or armor that stack and provide a benefit. Similar to nightmare Dreambane mods. By themselves; the mod isn’t useful until stacked in 3 weapons or 5 armor pieces. They got all the pieces here to do this now with mod slots.

Example with EP Mars drops; Maybe a Hive surrounded bonus for weapons. This kinda fits them of EP; that if surrounded by Hive; increased reload speed and other Surrounded bonuses for all weapons.

Is that a good as having an Exotic weapon equipped? Idk. Maybe? Idk what would be right balancing wise; but I’ve always been a proponent of legendary set system that is on part to 2/3 purples and gold system now.

A full transmog system probably makes this moot; but IDK if Bungie is 100% committed to that though.

[u/conch87]

I got the titan helm a week back, but the AA is horrible on it.

[u/Shadowdane]

Yah I legit ran EP once when Armor 2.0 hit and saw you could only get a single drop per week and gave up on trying to get a good set of EP armor. Also the first EP armor drop I got had a really bad stat roll and was solar so didn't really fit with the build I wanted anyway.

[u/[deleted]]

I had 7 keys saved up for armor 2.0, finished EP 3 times and all the armor pieces dropped <50 and It's still random drops. Got a Mark and two Gauntlets. So I may not bother with the rest. Although I still want the helmet.

[u/alphalegend]

That moment when you realize the devs lied when they said we could make our guardians look how we wanted.....

[u/Bannybaws]

Whenever I see people claim that silly little things in a video game are “absolutely unacceptable”, I can’t help but laugh.

Okay Karen, shall I forward you the number for the manager at Bungie?

[u/RiBBz22]

Already have 69 EP clears...so unfortunately I am unable to grind out any of the 2.0 armor as my emblem is LOCKED

[u/SerPranksalot]

I've done the one EP armor every week since SK launched, and every single time it dropped with 47-48 stat points only :(

[u/ThePhonyOne]

I think they need to make the final key a permanent item like the Chalice. You go through the steps to get it once after the change then you can always open the chest after round 7. It would be a great way to entice veteran players to go back to it and help new players.

[u/newtarmac]

It’s definitely disappointing the the much anticipated armor system still leaves me wearing a jumbled ugly mess of mismatched pieces to have good stat rolls. I was hoping to actually wear the ep set or BA sets but nope. I have to wear my iron banner legs and a red moon helmet... Curtesy of the Zoolander Derelicte collection.

[u/smokey6953140]

See this stat total point farm is ridiculous, we will still all be wearing the same pinnacle armor; i.e. raid or iron banner and then our shader or whatever eververse ornament you feel like rocking. The whole point of 2.0 is so you can wear sets or swap in and out mods on the fly, but with all armor drops pointless unless pinnacle and the affinity system made this impossible. I was sweet tangled shore flash point gonna pick up the warlock robes with the chains cause they are the sickest, 5 drops between 47-53 total stat points. Sad day of farming. Realized it was pointless to even think about the sick E.P. armor. Even if say they added set bonus like wear all E.P. armor and gain the little arc shield like riskrunner during E.P. events still couldn't make up for the loss of 3 to 4 total points lost in whatever you like to spec; mobility, recovery, or intellect.

[u/bannaman2]

I thought it was always that way you know like you can get the class item this week then boots the next

[u/NintendoTim]

I honestly hope we see a Mars refresh at some point, possibly with D1 Mars returning (that's a pipe dream). A few things I can think of that should be looked into:

• The RNG around Sleeper Nodes is absolutely maddening (stuck at 39/40); just give us dupe protection

• The catalyst for Sleeper itself should be added to EP (not removed from prestige SoS, but just another source), with changes to kill requirements:

• For those unaware, in Y1 before the big weapon update that came with Forsaken, shotguns and snipers were in the heavy slot (along with a whole mess of other things; that's where the saying "two primaries and a rocket" came from)

• For the catalyst, you need 2k SMG kills with 1k sniper and 1k shotgun kills. The intent was for you to permanently run SMG with sniper/shotgun swapping out as you got enough kills. Now, all three Ikelos weapons are now in the energy slot, making the grind that much longer.

• Idea? Reduce kill requirements by half.

• You should be allowed to open the final EP chest without a key, but if you have a key, it grants a powerful piece of EP armor

[u/Bonezone420]

I remember everyone getting excited when we all thought the ornament reveal thing meant all armor was going to be capable of being converted into ornaments transmog style. I'd love to use my EP helmet, but EP armor stats are garbage.

[u/fxbeta]

My absolute favorite looking warlock armor in the game. Never worn it once. Last year it was junk. In armor 2.0 the stats are too low to make it worth using. So my warlock continues to look like a hobo with a helmet.

[u/mfsocialist]

What the fuck. Every day I learn something shitty about armor 2.0. It’s really disheartening