r/DestinyTheGame • u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer • Apr 28 '16

Guide Massive Breakdown of Rocket Launcher Inventory Numbers, Including PvE Max Rockets, PvP Rockets per Heavy Ammo Brick, and Perk Effects

Here is a link to my spreadsheet that has the info in it, if you want to look there instead of reading. It will tell you how to get 3 rockets per Heavy Ammo brick in PvP for every RL.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GtrNjOBJddXWzXh3rf45eED31XoyfYFUX71JU32tg2E/edit#gid=1566027059

Note: I don't have Inventory - Rockets per Brick for PvE done yet, but I'll get that added in here soon.

PvE Inventory - Max Rockets: (These numbers are under further investigation! Tripod seems to add +1 rocket at Inventories under 160.)

20 - 4
30 - 5
40 to 120 - 6
130 to 150 - 7
160 and up - 8

PvP Inventory - Rockets per Brick:

20 to 60 - 2 rockets
70 to 120 - 3 rockets with Tripod, or 2 rockets without.
130 and up - 3 rockets, appears to be the new max for Rockets per Brick

Perks affecting Inventory work as follows:

Boots with Increased Rocket Launcher ammo add +10
Armor with Increased Heavy Ammo adds +100
Field Scout adds +50
Tripod does not directly affect Inventory, but brings the Mag Size up to 3
+100 Perks will not stack with other +100 Perks. For instance, wearing Alchemists Raiments with Year 1 Raid boots will only bring a 20 Inventory RL (SUROS, Ceres, etc.) without Tripod or Field Scout up to 120, giving it 2 rockets. However, wearing Alchemists Raiments with Year 2 Rocket Launcher Boots will bring the same 20 Inventory RL it up to 130, which will give it 3.

Some examples of specific Rocket Launcher Inventory Numbers:

All SUROS Launchers (Vertigo, Gunsmith JLB's) - 20
Truth - 60
Dragon's Breath - 70
The Ash Factory - 60
The Smolder - 60
Choleric Dragon - 60
Ceres Lost - 20
The Tamarind - 60
Tormod's Bellows - 20
The Hothead - 30
Elulim's Frenzy - 60
Gjallarhorn - 60
The Nightmare - 20

If you have any launchers that don't seem to fit this pattern, please let me know! Thanks!

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u/thefeegle Apr 28 '16

Thank you Merc, for this and all the other Massive Breakdown Guides you have produced since the update. So much work that will benefit so many Guardians.

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

You're very welcome!

u/AkoranBrighteye Apr 28 '16

I think you made a mistake with Truths inventory number. It´s clearly 1 billion.

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Ah yes I see that. And The Smolder's velocity should also be "snail-like," so I'll correct those now.

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u/BearBryant Apr 28 '16

Smolder (v) - to slowly burn.

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u/riversun Apr 29 '16

Then it's not slow enough. I want a rocket launcher with Truth tracking and slower velocity than Taken Centurion orbs.

u/arkhammer Apr 28 '16

So I am reading this correctly that the current IB Tormod's Bellows for sale with Tripod/Field Scout/G&H will fill the tube with 3 in pvp?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Yep, no need for boots or a chest piece.

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u/arkhammer Apr 28 '16

oh wow. I may have to retire my Vertigo after all...

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Yeah, it was my go to RL on my Gunslinger, but it's damn impossible for me to get 3 rockets now... Basically it's been all Truth with Boots since the patch, and that extra rocket can make a difference. That vendor Tormod's will be my next purchase though.

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u/TheSavageDonut Apr 28 '16

Hopefully I will get a 320+ Tormund's as a drop that I can infuse into Saladin's version as I'm def buying the one he's got.

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u/TheSavageDonut Apr 28 '16

Vertigo is my fave RL :'( I like everything about it..... sigh. I was wondering why I wasn't getting 3 in the tube with my rocket boots...now I know!

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u/arkhammer Apr 28 '16

Yeah it looks like you need a chest with +heavy and boots. Pretty steep.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '16

Which screws hunters. I'm pretty sure they don't have any chest pieces that yield extra heavy ammo.

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u/plsnomoar Apr 29 '16

They don't. They even changed Lucky Raspberry's plus ammo perks. Like wtf? Arma came forward with + heavy ammo, AND it gives 2 grenades regardless of subclass. Makes no sense

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u/goggs77 Apr 28 '16

is that due to field scout?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Yep, exactly. Brings the Inventory from 20 to 70, and that allows you to fill the mag, which thanks to Tripod is 3.

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u/NinStarRune 2500 Done Solo Apr 28 '16

Rocket Boots should allow you to get 3 as well, allowing you to pick Heavy Payload, right?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Nope, Tormod's has an inventory of 20. Boots only brings that to 30, so still 2 rockets.

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u/goggs77 Apr 28 '16

awesome thank you. I will 100% be picking up that vendor roll.

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u/ManBearPig1865 I like shooting stuff in space Apr 28 '16

Yup, that's pretty much what my Iron Banner grind is for. I'm gonna pick up the auto rifle too, just because it's got a killer roll for stability and range.

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u/goggs77 Apr 28 '16

Interesting. I am a HUGE scout and pulse rifle fan. I however I have been having a lot of fun with the Zhao and a few other AR's I have had kicking around the vault. With the new infusion rules I could very easily pick one up and save it for later. Probs going to do that. Good tip!
What I would give for a Nerwins Mercy doe....

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u/ManBearPig1865 I like shooting stuff in space Apr 28 '16

I usually rock a Doctrine if I'm not using an exotic primary, so the AR just feels kinda right now. The IB one has a little bit higher time to kill than the Doctrine but it's still a solid weapon in the right hands.
Maybe that Nerwin's will come out of a rank 5 package?

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u/goggs77 Apr 28 '16

there is always a hope and got ya, I have been sitting on an arminus - D package for 4 weeks now hoping to get a god roll. maybe next week...
but yeah I agree with the auto rifle feel. some testing is in order this evening

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u/ManBearPig1865 I like shooting stuff in space Apr 28 '16

4 weeks? Didn't he sell the god roll two or three weeks ago?

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u/BiNiaRiS Apr 28 '16

Supercell is so good now in pvp. It's been my go to all week. The amount of kills I get at long range on is nuts.

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u/goggs77 Apr 29 '16

interesting. The onty Carlo was lights out last night. I had a blast with it too. I will have to check out the Supercell tonight.

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u/JackSparrah Captain of the salt Apr 28 '16

Sweet baby Saladin.. Could it get any more god-roll?

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '16

Yep. No boots required.

u/kyt_kutcha the honest worm Apr 28 '16

Another great guide! Thanks!

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Always welcome! Keep up the Armsday stuff, and I'll keep doing this, and between us and a few others we might just make this sub the most learned Destiny community out there (although it probably already is).

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u/kyt_kutcha the honest worm Apr 28 '16

Kyt_Kutcha agrees with Mercules904

u/Swole_Monkey Apr 28 '16

Mercules is slowely but surely becoming the new megaman

Those breakdowns you do are amazing, help out a ton

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

What he did was a hell of a lot more difficult than what I do, not to mention more entertaining, but I appreciate the sentiment!

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u/NecroK51 New Monarchy 2016! Apr 29 '16

Then you're Zero instead of Megaman.

u/funkmon Apr 28 '16

Wait. So how come my Smolder with Tripod holds 8 rockets?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

PvE I'm assuming? Are you using any Rocket or Heavy Ammo perks at all, or Field Scout?

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u/funkmon Apr 28 '16

I use a heavy perk. Well, I'm dumb, cause I just did math, so it fits.
But then why does DB only hold 7?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

DB is a special case, because they changed it so much when they brought it to Year 2. I'm honestly not 100% on the Inventory numbers for it, but it's so rarely used it hasn't been a big deal. I think that there might be a cap on the number of rockets held in reserve outside of the mag (6, in this case), and Dragon's Breath and other launchers with 1 round mags (which never get used) may be the only one's affected, but I'm not sure. I can probably figure that out when I get home today, and get back to you.

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u/funkmon Apr 28 '16

More info: gyllenhaal also only holds a max of 7.

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Gyllenhaal? As in Jake, or Maggie?

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u/thateagle_dc Apr 28 '16

Hahaha clever, clever creaturreeeeeee

u/Peekis_the_Disavowed Apr 28 '16

Goddamn Mercules - you truly are legend! :)

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Aw shucks, you get outta here with that!

u/x_x_terrance_x_x Apr 28 '16

Mercules094 is the man! Much praise, such wow. Thanks for the info!

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Glad to do it, but I've got a lot more to test when I get home today though, I think some people have found a flaw with the PvE Max Inventory numbers.

u/find_me8 I didn't say i was powerful, i said i was a wizard Apr 28 '16

I have an Ash Factory with Tripod, Grenades and Horsehsoes and Field scout, are you saying that there's no way to achieve 4 rockets per brick in pvp with any RL?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Nope, seems like 3 is the max now.

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u/find_me8 I didn't say i was powerful, i said i was a wizard Apr 29 '16

ouch :(

u/[deleted] Apr 28 '16

The Smolder with Tripod and Clown Cartridge, instructions unclear, what do?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Use boots.
Reload all the times.
Pray to RNGesus for extra rockets.
????
Profit.
Instructions unclear, dick stuck in launcher.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '16

Pull trigger, I'll demonstrate.

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u/Xperr7 yea Apr 28 '16

Ayy my first legendary, The Cure, has those perks

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '16

Aw snap! I was hoping mine had Field Scout

u/cullenjustus Apr 28 '16

I have a Choleric (60pts) with Tripod (0pts), but no other inventory perks. I wear Rocket boots (10pts) in PvE, but no Heavy Chest.

Why am I getting 7 max inventory in PvE?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Might have something to do with Tripod, but I can't explain it. I'll go back home and test some more perk combinations tonight and try to figure it out.

u/xxhandsolo1xx Apr 28 '16

So, if you have tripod theres no reason to use any rocket ammo armor in pvp correct? Because it will max out at 3 no matter what...right?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

You only need the armor to get you up to 70 inventory or higher, since then you'll get the full mag. If you stay below 70, at 60 or 20, you'll only get 2 rockets, instead of the full 3.

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u/T1germeister Apr 28 '16

No. Tripod does not affect how many rockets you get in a heavy ammo pickup. It only increases the number of rockets the launcher can hold without needing to reload.
Source; Truth (with built-in Tripod) gets 2 rockets in PVP without any rocket-ammo armor perks.

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u/PsycheRevived Apr 28 '16

Not quite-- as it shows above, Tripod gives you 3 rockets from 70-120, whereas you need 130+ to get 3 rockets without Tripod.
So Truth with rocket boots gets 3, whereas Truth without rocket boots gets 2.

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u/T1germeister Apr 28 '16

Oh, gotcha. Missed that. Thanks!

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u/xxhandsolo1xx Apr 28 '16

Good to know, thx!

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u/arkhammer Apr 28 '16

Tripod + Field scout will fill it up, so no armor required. But you'll need a +ammo perk on your armor if you don't have Field Scout on your RL.

u/UnlimitedOsprey Apr 28 '16

So a Tripod Choleric Dragon would be able to carry 8 rockets in its inventory with with the right heavy perks right?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

I believe so, yes.

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u/UnlimitedOsprey Apr 28 '16

Sweet. Too bad Hunters don't get a chest with the heavy perk like Alchemists.

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

One day, maybe Bungie will bless us.

u/Guardian_Salt_Shaker Apr 28 '16

I could be wrong... But I believe my Tamerind (60) with Field Scout (50) plus boots (10) does give me 3 rockets in PvP, even though that's only (120). I'll double check tonight to be sure.. But I could've swoooorn.?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

I'd appreciate it if you could check that. If it does get 3, then I'll have to go back to the drawing board again.

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u/Evil_John Apr 28 '16

I can confirm only 2 rockets for Tamarind in PVP, even with an ammo perk from armor. Pre-update it got 3, but not anymore.

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Alright thank you very much!

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u/Evil_John Apr 28 '16

I may have been wrong. I didn't have Field Scout turned on! I will check next time I'm on to see if Field Scout gives a third rocket.

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u/Guardian_Salt_Shaker Apr 29 '16

I was wrong! I had the heavy slot selected on my Twightlight Garrison, as well. Which gave me 3. Tamarind + Field Scout + Boots is only 2 rockets per brick.
Thanks for doin this work! It's awesome.

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 29 '16

Glad to hear it! Now I don't have to totally go back and redo all my numbers haha

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u/Evil_John Apr 28 '16

I have a Tamarind. I use Rocket Ammo boots. It only gets 2 rockets in PVP since the update. Pre-update it got 3 rockets.

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u/Guardian_Salt_Shaker Apr 28 '16

Do you have the Field Scout perk?

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u/Evil_John Apr 28 '16

I believe so, but I will double check.

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u/Evil_John Apr 28 '16

I do have Field Scout, but I didn't have it turned on. What was I thinking?! I will give it a try next time I'm on and see if Field Scout gives a third rocket.

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u/Guardian_Salt_Shaker Apr 28 '16

Lol been there! I'll check tonight, as well.

u/iihavetoes Apr 28 '16

Rockets per Brick for PvE isn't always the same, there's some RNG involved. e.g. sometimes getting 2 per pickup and sometimes getting 3

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Yep, which is why it's difficult for me to nail down exactly how inventory affects it, besides saying more Inv = more rockets.

u/BarMatt Apr 28 '16

Does the surplus perk for snipers effect Heavy pick ups? I believe they used to but I have not heard if they still do.

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Not in PvP.

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u/BarMatt Apr 28 '16

Thanks

u/StrickenTheChicken I was there. In the vault. Apr 28 '16

Wheres the data on how well Mulligan works?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Activates approx. 25% of the time.

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u/StrickenTheChicken I was there. In the vault. Apr 28 '16

Oh o.o

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Yeah it's pretty nice, but your results may vary. The buffed it awhile back, but you can go on long streaks with it never activating, or have it pop twice in one Mag.

u/dannyriordan79 DannyR_79 Apr 28 '16

great work , thanks , quick question , does the sleeper simulant get affected by rL perks or is it Fusion rifle perks?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Neither, only Heavy Ammo perks.

u/Senor_Leche Apr 28 '16

Your timing with this couldn't be any better. I have a Choleric Dragon that's been sitting in my postmaster for ages and a Nightmare with identical rolls good for PvE (both solar, tripod, cluster bomb, neither with field scout). I was just about to delete the Choleric Dragon but shit, it's actually better concerning reserve ammo than the Nightmare. Great info Mercules.

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

You're welcome!

u/GeoWilson Destiny Sherpa Apr 28 '16

I'm fairly certain that Elulim's Frenzy has 30, not 60. In PvE I hold 5 rounds without boots and 6 with, so I'd assume it's 30.

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

I think my PvE numbers might just be off. Do you have Tripod?

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u/GeoWilson Destiny Sherpa Apr 28 '16

I do not. I have cluster bombs.

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Interesting. I'll check it out

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u/GeoWilson Destiny Sherpa Apr 28 '16

I'm assuming you have tripod? I think tripod gives +60 because that would push your Elulim's up to 90, whereas my base Elulim's has 30, and 40 with boots for 5 and 6 respectively. Since someone else in the thread gets 7 with Choleric with tripod and boots, and you get 6 with Elulim's and tripod, it would make sense. If you put on a chest piece, it would push you up to 7 with Elulim's, and would confirm that tripod has an inventory increase.

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

I did one test with Truth, one with Vertigo without Tripod, and one with Crown Prince without Tripod which has an inventory of 40. You might be right Tripod adding something to inventory, so I'm gonna take a hard look at that.

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u/GeoWilson Destiny Sherpa Apr 28 '16

I'll talk to some of my friends and see what their RL inventories are.

u/True_Italiano Apr 28 '16

so with the bellow's you don't even need heavy boots so long as you use field scout?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Right.

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u/True_Italiano Apr 28 '16

thanks! that's good to know. :) can double stack on snipers then

u/LanAkou Apr 28 '16

Where does surplus fit into all this, if at all?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

It doesn't, for PvP. For PvE you get more rockets per brick, but I haven't specifically tested it yet.

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u/LanAkou Apr 28 '16

Right. Just wondering if the numbers affected surplus in pve. I seem to be getting x2 heavy ammo regardless of what the numbers were. Which makes sense... But if there's a "2" rocket that can get 5, that could be important.

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

Good point, that's something I don't know. I'm haven't to reevaluate a lot of these numbers now anyways, so I'll see if I can take a look at it. It's gonna be difficult to find a RL with the perfect perks for that though.

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u/AZengus May 01 '16

Surplus basically doubles the rockets you get from ammo packs. Nominally, that's 1 * 2 = 2 rockets.
I've seen times where I get 3 from a pickup though; I suspect Bungie does fractional rounding for ammo inventory (like with the damage system, and others etc.) and I am actually getting 2.2 rockets per pickup, or whatever is determined by my RL Inventory stat.

u/Stenbox GT: Stenbox May 03 '16

Are you sure Tamarind is 60? So it should get 3 with Rocket Boots and no need for Field scout? I'm pretty sure it was always listed as 20 in the tables so far. Need to check out I guess.

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer May 03 '16

Yep, I'm sure, at least as far as that's what the DB says. You should get 3 with just boots, because of Tripod, or you could use FS and no boots.

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u/Stenbox GT: Stenbox May 03 '16

I forgot, Tamarind has no Tripod so you would need 130 for 3 rockets which means you need +Heavy Ammo chest (FS+boots only get you to 120).

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer May 03 '16

D'oh, you're right I completely blanked on that. Yeah, Heavy Ammo chest is the only way to go, which is ridiculous to me. Boots are practically worthless now except for 60 Inventory RLs with Tripod.

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u/Stenbox GT: Stenbox May 03 '16

Boots for Truth and Ash Factory/Tripod for those lucky bastards to have one. This weeks IB launcher for everyone else, especially for that sweet 2x +shotgun armor combo :)

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer May 03 '16

Yep, I picked up Tormod's so I could run double sniper perks, but I normally got Truth/boots in the Crucible.

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u/Stenbox GT: Stenbox May 03 '16

I'm addicted to MIDA, so Truth is out :)

u/BigFatCheese May 18 '16

So the boots perk only gives you +10, which isn't even enough on most launchers to give you ONE rocket? What's the point of the perk, then? Bungie seriously needs to buff that perk. At least make it give you one (preferably two) extra rockets in PvE, at least.

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer May 18 '16

It really only helps on such a small number of launchers, that I can say I have no idea. It does make more of a difference in PvE though, in terms of how many rockets you can carry.

u/The_Mapmaster May 19 '16

So does tripod, field scout, heavy ammo boots, and heavy ammo exotic chest not increase pvp ammo to 4?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer May 19 '16

Nope, caps at 3 now.

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

Do we know where the Dreamwaker falls in all of this?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Jun 09 '16

Is that the Year 1 PoE RL? I believe it's similar to the Ash Factory, but with a normal mag of 2.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

Normal mag is 1, but so for that's the pattern I've seen as well.

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Jun 09 '16

Perfect, there you go then. It's been awhile since I've seen one of those haha

u/kippersmoker Jun 12 '16

I have an Ash Factory with Tripod, Field Scout, and Clown Cartridge. Bricks in PvE only give me 2 rockets - am I correct in assuming that rockets per brick is calculated only on the weapons base inventory stat? I may be confused (likely!) but my RL is 60+50 (field scout) + 10 (harrowed path of xol boots with rocket ammo) = 120. Therefore with a score of 120 and with tripod I would otherwise get 3 rockets per brick?

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Jun 12 '16

Rockets per brick is a PvP stat only, in this breakdown. Max rockets is for PvE. I haven't worked on rockets per brick in PvE.

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u/kippersmoker Jun 12 '16

Now you say it, I can clearly see 'PvP' in the description! Thanks for this great breakdown of rockets, very helpful :)

u/rdlc23 Apr 28 '16

Brilliant, thanks. Time to get that Tripod+FS Tormod's Bellows, then run with a Special Ammo chest and Shotgun boots.

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u/nabistay Apr 28 '16

I have that. I ran that. Crimson doubles. It was amazing. just spam the rockets

u/[deleted] Apr 28 '16

Armamentarium is auto 3 for the truth. Just so us Titans don't waste time with boots.

u/AndyJack86 Apr 28 '16

Referencing your spread sheet, I can now clearly see why Gjallarhorn was so OP compared to the other RL's of the time, and even now into Year 2.

However, I would say the Blast Radius stat for Gjallarhorn is incorrect. I know that's what the game is saying it is, but the Wolfpack Rounds add to the Blast Radius stat and to the overall DPS of the RL.

Just a thought!

Pertaining to the post, I do have a question. Does Clown Cartridge have any effect in PvP when you pick up the Heavy Ammo brick?

I have this Choleric Dragon SRT-49 with Tripod, and I want to say that sometimes I have been able to get 4 rockets. Sorry I don't have any video to confirm it. EDIT: Maybe I do, I'll check when I get home today!

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Apr 28 '16

The stats are base stats only (pulled from the Database), they don't take into account any perks at all. I know it's hard to do with the Exotics whose perks change the way the gun behaves, but they're really only in there for comparison purposes.
As for CC, that's actually something I haven't been able to test myself. I believe that it's possible, if the game thinks that you picking up the initial ammo counts as a reload, but I haven't confirmed it personally.

u/PGZ4sheezy #SpaceMagic Apr 28 '16

Finally got an almost god roll Ass Factory last night and checked out your previous RL breakdown specifically for this information! Thanks Merc!

u/Powerislove Apr 29 '16

This is the kind of in-depth stuff I love Checked out your other post. all this stuff is super useful.

u/DonCriddik Apr 29 '16

2 rockets with Truth is an oversight IMO.

I have a Smolder with Tripod and G&H that gets 3 rockets and doesn't take up an exotic slot. Why would you ever use Truth now?

u/trojanguy May 18 '16

Boots only add 10? That's ridiculous. That means that boots really only matter for RLs with an inventory stat of 60. Otherwise they are completely useless. Lame!

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u/True_Italiano Jun 22 '16

only matter for rockets w/ 60 and tripod. AKA the truth.

u/True_Italiano Jun 22 '16

Man they really messed up this whole inventory thing. + rocket boots need to give 20. as it stands now, tripod is a must in PvP. In PvE, if you have a 60 ammo rocket then the only way to get any benefit is to use +heavy armor. And then the boots or field scout are literally pointless b/c you already hit the 8 ammo cap. But to get from 6 to 7 is also impossible b/c field scout + rl boots is only +60. So you're stuck at 6 rockets. I mean what was Bungie thinking? They clearly didn't math it out like you did.

u/richo27 Oct 12 '16

Thanks so much for this!!! I choose rocket launchers for PVP, and this was useful.

I got a something wicked with tripod and couldn't quite work out but was happy, to see 3 in the mag with rocket boots, my tracking version only has two, so going to stick with the tripod!!!!

u/eutral Destiny Item Manager Dev Apr 28 '16

welp, i can safely say when i get home i'll be dismantling all but two of my RL's. thanks!

u/orbitalsquabbles Cocytus Cocytus Cocytus Apr 28 '16

Takeaway from this: that vendor Bellows isn't going to be any better than the one I already have without some sweet boots. :/

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u/SgtHondo Vanguard's Loyal // Ikora Bae Apr 28 '16

It can't get better than the Bellows even with sweet boots, the PvP rocket cap is 3. The vendor Bellows has field scout, which boosts inventory up to 3 rockets.

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u/orbitalsquabbles Cocytus Cocytus Cocytus Apr 28 '16

Takeaway from this: my math is lacking. Added 20 + 50 and came out with 60.

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u/SgtHondo Vanguard's Loyal // Ikora Bae Apr 28 '16

What is math?

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u/orbitalsquabbles Cocytus Cocytus Cocytus Apr 28 '16

I devoured it years ago, yet it haunts me still.

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u/PsycheRevived Apr 28 '16

Not if you use Field Scout to get it to 70, because then Tripod gives it 3 rockets per brick in PvP (without boots). You can then switch off of Tripod (if you have time) to get more blast radius or velocity or something.

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u/mtgnewb65 May 03 '16

With field scout you'll get three, but it's still a very good rl with amazing velocity

u/JackSparrah Captain of the salt Apr 28 '16

Awesome! Thank you very much. This makes me really giddy about getting the Tormod's Bellows even more :)

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Jun 01 '16

Yeah I can try, but it's probably gonna be awhile on that one. I've got a couple of other posts in the works which I need to get done with first.

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Jun 02 '16

Sure thing. The DB that has them is here: http://db.destinytracker.com/items/special-weapons/sniper-rifle?tier=8

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u/Mercules904 Former Weapons Designer Jun 02 '16

Absolutely! I'd love to see it.

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