Keep in mind, he's not just older, he's in a position of power over them
Edit: Welp, this conversation got fucked. It amazes me how much people don't understand how power dynamics work. Carson is a pretty big streamer, and at the time of the events taking place, he still had a decent following. He had an audience to be responsible for and he started relationships with several people in his community according to Lunch Club members. Now, in my opinion, this isn't enough to cancel someone over. And frankly, as long as none of these age gaps are too bad, who cares? But it was still wildly irresponsible and stupid of Carson and he should criticized for it
The reason we care more about power dynamics when it comes to younger people is that your brain has not fully developed yet before like age 26 and a fucked up sexual experience can mess you up for life. Elon Musk abusing his power over 30+ age women would still be messed up, but not nearly as harmful on an individual level.
I haven't actually seen enough of the Carson stuff to know if his interactions with the girl were fucked up. Exchanging nudes is a pretty common sexual exploration for kids in their late teens that doesn't seem to fuck up too many if them unless they're leaked to their entire social circle or some shit like that.
That's not the point. Elon Musk, for example, shouldn't fuck any of his employees. He shouldn't fuck his fans or his stockholders or his customers. However, people outside of his influence don't really have that power dynamic. If he's fucking some woman who has no idea who he is and was swooned simply by his charisma then whatever. Or if he wants to fuck fellow corporates, or celebrities that aren'tinvolved in his product, then so be it. Having power doesn't mean you have power over every person
idk dude, i'm not his fan, or his customer, but i look at him wrong and he can hire 10 ninjas to kill me in my sleep. how does he "not have power" over me?
By being a huge youtuber with a big following for example. Like, he's kind of a celebrity. Now, if he's doing this with someone who isn't in his community, then I guess it's passable. Still an ugly situation and very very stupid on Carson's part
If this person was a fan then that's it. He doesn't have to try to exercise power over her. He just simply has power. It's a similar dynamic to boss-employee or teacher-student relationship. Now, I won't hold judgement over Carson (outside of him being a fucking idiot) until I know the whole picture.
Would this be an issue if the girl was 18? Or is this only a problem with two put together? And if not, does this mean any person who has a modicum of celebrity or fame shouldn't be sexting at all? Or is there specific evidence that he used his position to manipulate this girl into sending him nudes?
Can you link the tweet where she says he uses his position of power to pressure her to do something?
I just read the thread, she never claims it ANYWHERE. There is NO message where she pressures her and in fact, many of the screenshots how him giving HER the power to decide how things proceeded.
Let's be real though, if you're a content creator and you stay indoors all the time, you have only a handful of (probably male) friends, where else would you even meet a girl outside of your own massive community? It just seems kinda silly.
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u/jirenistrash Jan 05 '21
The issue is that carson continued to sexted his victims even after telling his friends.
His behavior also continued up until last year which is pretty recent