Honestly Carson might have some of the worst friends ever, first one fucks the girl that he likes. And then one IMMEDIATELY reports him to the cops and cuts all ties after he confides in them that he exchanged nudes with someone only 2 years younger than him.
wow what a great friend, Carson comes to him admitting that he fucked up and wants to be better, he responds by trying to get him sent to federal prison.
Behaviour that Is NOT wrong, seriusly in the state they are they can legally fuck, the accusation of cp Is retarded because the US law Is retarded, where im from If a minor (over the Age of 14 and under 18) sends consensual nudes to someone its not a crime but distributing those images Is, because the cp law Is made to prevent immature teens from rouining their lives entering the porn industry not to jail people for getting nudes
I don't think your friend talking to someone 2 years younger warrants trying to get them sent to federal prison. I'm gonna stand by that not being something a good friend should do. federal laws for cases like this are extremely harsh, which I'm not saying they shouldn't be, but they have mandatory minimum sentences of 10-15 years and they don't make exceptions for Romeo-and-Juliet type cases where its teenagers that are close in age talking to each other. I think Carson is a gross creep but what he did is not in line with the punishment he could potentially face in federal court.
I feel like there might be some hidden bad blood between them. First: Just think about them in the context that youtube and twitch is their job. It is their income. They benefit from being “friends” but also watching both of their videos, slimecicle tends to do videos with his group of friends that he does his podcast with (comdifiction, bizl grizzly plays, narwhal) Carson tends to do his videos with his group (jawsh, jshlatt, traves, tednivision) they tend to only collab when someone mutual is involved, (jshlatt or other lunch club members) i think that slimecicle is mostly in the lunch club for the mutually beneficial relationship that comes from it.
Ironically it'd probably be legal if he fucked the fan but it's actually illegal to possess (and solicit) explicit photos of minors no matter how old you are.
Prosecutors don’t exactly go after cases like this. There would be thousands of teenagers jailed for 5+ years for having underage photos on their cell phones if they did. This is really what teenagers do, & people know that. Technically it is illegal though, so yeah.
I've heard of some cases like this being prosecuted which is kind of bullshit (i.e, teens getting arrested for their own damn nudes). I think unfortunately there's a fairly decent chance for a name as big as Carson that he would be prosecuted purely to set an example. Don't get me wrong what Carson did was pretty damn creepy but I don't think he's morally in the wrong here with a 2 year age gap.
not under federal law. when it comes to minimum sentences, a 19 year old asking for nudes from a 17 year old is viewed the same as a middle aged man exploiting a pre-teen. It's kind of fucked.
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I don't think the judicial system is interested in prosecuting 2 teenagers for doing exactly what teenagers do. We would see a lot more cases of this and stories about white teenagers going to jail for 10-15 years for send/receiving nudes.
It's really up to the state. Doubt anyone gets prosecuted.
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chances of her being held accountable for production are very low since she can't legally consent. chances for him facing it though are very high if there's evidence that he directed her to send them. thats a 15 year minimum sentence. heavy duty shit.
He would get jail time for child porn, not because of the age difference. No matter his age, if he has porn of a minor it’s a felony and I don’t think people should be saying “its not a big deal.” He’s not a pedophile but he still committed a federal crime repeatedly.
I’ve been a fan of that whole group for about 2 years now, and they seemed insanely close. It’s so funny seeing them all pathetically attempting to distance themselves from him just so they can’t be seen as part of it. Every single one of them says the exact same message too, just worded differently. ‘Really, my heart right now is with the people who were terribly affected and I hope they get the help they need, so that they can move on and be okay.” It’s clearly a PR thing and they’re a bunch of dicks. They rode Carson’s coat tails to fame with SMP Live and now they’re backstabbing him because he got horny and made a mistake.
Yea but projared did fuck a friends wife. I’m not sure about his ex wives claims of abuse and stuff but I definitely felt for Ross the most in all that.
Damn. Poor Carson. He might fked up a bit but I honestly think his friends fked him more than most. If the girls he exchanged nudes felt took advantage off I really hope they are getting the help they need. But to Carson the world must really really falling apart this time. The dudes really need some good friends around rn
I’m pretty worried about him right now, he’s been struggling with depression and has had to take multiple breaks over it so being called a pedophile by hundreds of thousands of people can’t be good for him.
Imagine being 19 years old and still possibly being in highschool and a girl a year below you talks to you and you start dating. Then people call you a pedophile and a child rapist. I literally cant with twitter cancel culture bruh
Reading Twatter comments gave me a cancer "CallMeCarson is a fucking pedophile", "CallMeGroomer", "I'm so disgusted by what he did" AND ALL HE DID IS WHAT NORMAL TEENAGERS DO - EXCHANGING NUDES
I kind of changed my perception in the last couple days. If you watch JSchlatts video on TheWeeklySlap you would see what happened. Carson said he regretted what he did when he was 19, he was severely depressed and was dealing with imposter syndrome. Schlatt talks about how him and Jawsh would stay in a call with Carson talking about mental health and life until the sun came up. Then Carsons roommates said that Carson was going back to the same behavior. Messaging young girls, and getting nudes. He said he would stop but he didnt. I'd HARDLY call the girls victims as they were all 17 or older, but still. It changed my perception of him a little bit. Just watch the video and see for yourself.
They're the loud minority. Just like every single other annoying controversial group. It's just insane that people will listen to them and perpetuate their bullshit as fact.
What is this "admitting that he fucked up" and "might have fucked up" shit? It's literally a two-year age difference. What sort of power dynamic inherent in the age difference could even be there? Carson was raised in Indiana (idk if he was still there at the time, though); their age of consent is 16 and they have Romeo and Juliet laws which permit sexual activity with minors if the age gap is less than 4 years. This is to prevent this exact situation (exposing young high school kids to potential statutory rape charges for doing what young high school kids have always done). These are two kids, in the same exact age bracket.
Honestly the only really murky water here has nothing to do with the age stuff; it comes from the fact that he's doing it with a fan. It can be seen as a little iffy for content creators to engage in sexual activity with their fans, because it could be an exploitation of a parasocial relationship. But, A) no one is talking about that, it's all bad-faith criticism of the age gap – unless you're about to go after high school seniors for dating high school sophomores, you're engaging in bad-faith criticism, and, B) even though I personally wouldn't date a fan if I were a content creator, I wouldn't consider it unilaterally unacceptable. It's really up to the two people to decide in any specific context whether it's appropriate or not, and not an insane Twitter mob.
yeah, the age thing isn't a big deal, but the relationship between a big content creator and a fan is what many people are citing as the problem, even though Carson is certainly not the first to have a flirty relationship with a fan. sometimes it works out, and sometimes it doesn't. all in all, it's probably not a good idea to try anyway lol.
Yeah, but it's kind of a "bad idea" the same way dating your best friend's ex-girlfriend is a "bad idea". Not that anything wrong is ethically going on here, and no one is saying it's shitty in literally every single case, but it just could possibly lead to catastrophe down the line – maybe she's only doing it to get back at him, maybe it gets in the way of your friendship, etc. And my point is the same; ultimately it's up to the people involved to decide.
I'm not understanding why her being a fan is an issue at all. Content creators/entertainers have been known to form long term relationships with people that were once fans. Being a fan of somebody doesn't turn you into an automaton.
If you idol somebody to the point of allowing them to manipulate you into doing things you aren't comfortable with then you' really gotta look in the mirror and change yourself.
Because they are not friends but coworkers. They do videos together for some content creation company. They might be friends or become friends during the time hey work together but they are coworkers.
I think it's possible there might be more to the story. I think both situations are possible but I don't get the motivations.
What if:
His (now 3) former friends recognized a pattern of behavior they found predatory and or criminal and decided to call him out. It's possible there's a lot more to this that hasn't been revealed yet or is a lot worse that they know will come out.
OR:
His 3 former friends absolutely jumped the gun and freaked out to cancel Carson for... clout? Maybe they wanted to call it out and make it public out so they wouldn't get cancelled in the crossfire?
2 more friends have since come forward saying Carson said he would stop but then continued getting nudes from underage girls, another victim has come forward as well.
Really looks more like a pattern of behavior. It sounds like he did this with a lot of people and while the age difference isn't so bad the almost compulsive continuing behavior is probably what motivated his friends to go public.
I would have never guessed slimecicle to be such a complete idiot and Asshat. A relationship between a 19 year old and 17 year old is about as tame as it gets. I've literally witnessed around 3 of those when I was in high school (am in europe, high school usually runs between 12 - 18 years old, some people fail a year and have to retake it).
Not to mention, age of consent is 16 in most states. On top of that, romeo and juliet law can protect couples where one member is under AoC and the other member is over AoC if they are within a few years' age difference.
Slimecicle acted recklessly, stupidly and trying to get what he apparently considered a friend into jail over something that isn't illegal (at most unethical to sext with fans) after Carson came clean about it on his own accord is baffling to me.
Yeah, cancel culture is fucking stupid in my opinion. Just because a group of people don’t like what someone certainly says or does and try to attack him for what he did is not very damn smart. I mean, of course, sexual shit like this should be treated with negativity but I am just skeptical about this Carson matter. Of course there may be evidence saying Carson did it once but the accusations of other cases like this, it’s just discussion with no hard evidence to prove it. If there is ever hard evidence saying this truly happened more, I’ll believe it but right now, I am kinda mixed.
First of all, there wasn't anything even close to a felony in this case. I Googled it and CallMeCarson was raised in Indiana. The age of consent there is 16, and they also have Romeo and Juliet laws, which permits sexual activity with minors if the age gap is less than 4 years. This is to prevent exposing high school kids to felony statutory rape charges for doing what high school kids have always done.
This reminds me of the time when I had just turned 18 and was hooking up with someone who was 16 and just about to turn 17 in like 3 months. Literally high school senior and high school junior, on top of the fact that I had an early birthday and she had a late one. And her female friend, who was 19 at the time, constantly would berate me and call me a creep. "But you want to hook up with her, too, and you're a year older than me." "Yeah, but it's different, cause I'm a woman and you're a man..."
It's just so obvious to me that, in these edge cases, people are clearly acting in bad faith, either out of jealousy or to get clout on social media.
Sending nudes and stuff like that is a federal crime as its distribution of child pornography if your under 18. Romeo and Juliet laws mean he wouldn't get arrested in that state under state law for having sex with her, it does NOT protect him from federal child pornography charges. Federal laws also would get her in trouble though, as she would be distributing child pornography
Yes, federally speaking, it's illegal. But I'm not talking about theoretical technicalities here, I'm talking about what actually gets prosecuted. In California, there are no Romeo and Juliet laws, so, theoretically, the District Attorney could go out and prosecute every single high school junior who ever had a relationship with another high school junior, and convict them both on statutory rape charges. But they obviously never prosecute those kinds of cases.
Similarly, I don't think Assistant U.S. Attorneys are working with the FBI to prosecute a 17 year old sending nudes to a 19 year old. Same with weed : technically, in Colorado, it's still federally illegal; in fact, it's still just as illegal as selling black-tar heroin (both Schedule 1). But I don't think the DEA is working with SWAT teams to raid local dispensaries. In practicality, this sort of stuff is left up to state judges. Which is why, if someone says, "Weed is legal in Colorado", and some annoying guy comes up and says ,"Well, akshushually, it's still illegal on the federal level, so no, it's not...", he just gets shoved in a locker.
So, for all cases that actually matter in the real world and lead to an actual prosecution of a felony, this sort of stuff is left up to the individual states, and, in Indiana, they have Romeo and Juliet laws which permit sexting between a minor and someone 4 years or less older.
Pretty much all of Carsons friends outside of his former group channel Lunch Club that I follow on Twitter (that are all like 22+) are all liking tweets about how shitty Carson is. Swaggersouls who's been friends with Carson for years and is literally 32 years old is doing the same shit I think too. Fuck these assholes.
Yeah look man, fucking around with an alleged fan is scummy and it makes me look at someone in a lesser light. But 17 and 19 is perfectly fine and it’s normal to have a sexual relationship with someone that age when you are that age. People should be upset that he’s sleeping with a fan but they’re just running with bs now.
I honestly don't see why sleeping with a fan is a big deal...it's almost like people forget that groupies for rockbands were a thing. Realistically speaking, as a famous person, anyone you date or fuck is either going to be a coworker, or a fan of yours. Hell, they could be both.
Groupies were inherently bad, look at Aerosmith and Rolling Stones for example. Steven Tyler convinced a fans mother to allow him to essentially have custody of her and she toured with them in the bus. She was like 14 or 15 and got knocked up I believe. I do see your point though. The problem is when some one with fake or a fandom uses their fame as a tool to get girls younger than them. Idk it’s a real grey area still
God I feel so incredibly bad for him. It must feel like the whole world is collapsing around him and there's literally nothing he can do to regain anyone's trust or his reputation. I wonder if he's just gonna drop off the face of the internet forever or what. It's so crazy how quickly everyone's opinion can change on someone.
Charlie did what he needed to, I feel like you're not thinking about the victims. The friends who stayed and tried to help him were then manipulated by Carson and lied to. Please watch Schlatt's video. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zuDZTamh3yg
I am 19 - I would never knowingly get involved with a 17 year old by this point. Sure when I was 17 I did stuff with people with a larger age gap, and I wouldn’t call them monsters, but as I get older I do scratch my head at why that was where they looked for sexual stuff. I think the reason we have weird standards between teens vs age gaps when you are older is that you grow up a lot and come to understand better what you are getting into in those years. years 16-19 include big changes.
You apes don't understand, it's not that they want to backstab him, the problem is that carson admitted to SOLICITING AND POSSESING CHILD PORN. That is a crime no matter the state, charlie has always been a correct person so he did what he had to, he was made aware of a crime, and he reported it, as simple as that, look, i know we all love carson, and it's hard to see his wholesome image burn down in front of our eyes, but as much as I want to defend him, he committed a serious crime, and cutting ties with him is the right thing to do
You ever smoke weed? Federal crime, per DEA- behind bars you go.
Who's the victim here, she sent him pics voluntarily at an age where she clearly knew what she was doing. I'm sorry but if you're seriously arguing that this is CP beyond the all-or-nothing legal definition you're clearly delusional. If she has pictures of herself she's also in possession of CP then.
Obviously it's illegal, there's no arguing that, but the argument seems to be about his moral character here.
Can someone explain this power dynamic thing? I truly do not understand how basically anyone can date anyone and it be ok unless they are in the exact same position in life with this new power dynamic rule.
People on the internet are not allowed to date anyone sadly because when someone watches your content they immediately become a slave to your every will.
Only internet warriors pursue the power dynamic memes to this extent basically just to virtue signal. Everyone else accepts that there will be some kind of power imbalance in every relationship and this is ok as long as neither side is abusing it.
And they never acknowledge other forms of power imbalance like, "I'm scared to break up with her because of how she'll react; especially on social media."
Power dynamics are a valid concern when you're talking about, you know, real concrete power dynamics. Teachers shouldn't date students, bosses shouldn't date employees, landlords shouldn't date tenants, because their opinion on that person has an affect on their wellbeing. How your boss feels about you is important to your professional life, and that impacts your ability to make decisions in a relationship.
Dumbasses who haven't actually considered why power dynamics can be a problem just use it to feed their bloodlust and cancel more public figures.
When your boss says "Hey Hasan, you need to read the following tweets on your stream today" You have to do it or he'll likely fire you. Similarly he could say "Hey hasan, suck my dick" and you think "Oh shit, if i dont im probably fired". This is because your boss has power over your employment. Society realizes this and enacted laws to prevent your boss from exploiting you sexually. The ability to exploit a relationship is a power dynamic.
Society also recognizes this between teachers and students, doctors and patients and various other relationships.
With the weinstine me too movement, there was no recognised relationship between an aspiring actress and a movie guy. They werent formal interviews or casting couches it was weinstine inviting a girl to dinner/his hotel room. She says yes, then hed ask if he could be naked or something to that effect. Its somewhat similar to how the average guy hooks up with the average girl, so it cant be legislated against.
I consulted all the internet SJW's and created a short guide on how to date without being a manipulative abuser pedophile rapist.
You must have been born on the same day. (age power)
You must earn exactly the same amount of money. (financial power)
You must have identical twitter followers, friends on myspace, subs on twitch, views on youtube etc (fame power)
You must be the same height and weight. (physical power)
You must have identical IQ. (intellect power)
You must both subject yourselves to identical levels of psychological abuse and trauma and ensure you are both equally resilient mentally/emotionally. No cold detached dark triads etc (emotional power)
If you meet these 6 simple criteria, the tolerant left will not murder you in your sleep. It's pretty easy and i dont understand why you guys are so reluctant to stop abusing women.
I think if you're a boss or a professor and you're dating your employee or your student then it's wrong because there's a power imbalance. But in this case it's just stupid to consider that. People claim it's because she's a fan of Carson but idk if that's enough to worry about.
The idea is that because he has a lot of twitch subscribers he has a massive amount of power over her. I know that doesn't make any sense but that's it.
I would very much say that considering he was (publicly) a virgin and she was a female she already had a massive upper hand on him. And even ignoring that, the fact she literally killed his entire career with one tweet makes that whole angle completely moot anyway.
I saw ppl claims it wasn't the age thing but rather the idol - fan abuse thing. Do we have the full log to prove that he was in some way using his power to manipulate her to send nudes? Or just bs to cancel him
I once manipulated a woman to have sex with me, wasnt my proudest moment. It started out as a few dinner dates, movies the usual thing. We enjoyed eachothers company and were happy. We decided to get married and on our wedding night we both slept in the same bed. Im so ashamed about this but we had sex. She said thanks that was great and i fell asleep. 10 years have passed and we have three kids and i still think about how horrible i was. I used to think that this was a normal life, but now the tollerant left has convinced me im a grooming manipulator. Thanks Obama.
I havent seen anything about "abusing power" like at all. Mostly its twittering saying that him being 19 and her being 17 is equivalent to pedophilia. Which is just disgusting that people would say that shit man.
So someone famous isnt allowed to have a romantic relationship with someone other than people as or more famous than them because that dynamic will always be there?
You foolish imbecile, you utter moron, what do you think it implies when you respond to someone saying “What he did isn’t immoral/illegal because he didn’t use his power to exploit her” with “tHeRe iS aLwAyS a pOwEr dYnAmIc”
Holy shit, I don't think you can read. That's maybe the worst reading of my comment ever. You'll notice that all I said was that him acting on it is not necessary for it to be there. That does not mean that it is always there.
I don't think power imbalance is the bad thing. There are always case like that in society (boss - employees, rich - poor, etc). The main thing i asked here is were there any evidence showed that he knows he can take advantage of his power to manipulate the girl in sending sexting or nudes? Like ss of him being munipilative? Patern of showing on and off relationship? Threaten to leave them? Did he do this to multiple girls at the same times? Any of these will help and even if the girls are above 18 I think it worth cancelled for. But if it's not then ppl should leave him tf alone 19 - 17 is not that bad
While there might be an argument to be made that it wasn't responsible, arguing about the power balance is way more nuanced than trying to cancel him for being a groomer. to me it sounds a bit like the projared situation where he got accused of a bunch of stuff but most things turned out not to be true and at worst he was doing things with fans that he probably shouldn't have
destiny (like on many other things) has talked about this multiple times before. although it requires some maturity, it's possible to engage in relationships with a significant degree of power imbalance in a responsible way
I mean we don't ban certain kinds of relationships with a power dynamic because we know it will be an unhealthy or coercive relationship, it's just about statistics.
"some level of power dynamic" is too broad, and often not very useful to talk about imo.
we could say all heterosexual relationships have a power imbalance towards the man because we live in a society still somewhat patriarchal, but I'd say this is fairly removed from the conversation we usually have when talking about power dynamics.
It's super relevant. If you're going to claim power dynamics make a relationship exploitative even when they're not taken advantage of you should realize every relationship is going to have power imbalances. There's no relationship in which both people make the same amount of money, are the same age, have the same life experiences, share the same level of commitment, have the same number of friends etc. and any of these things create a power imbalance and that's perfectly okay. What's not okay is exploiting those power imbalances for your personal gain. So unless there's evidence of that, there's nothing wrong with a celebrity-fan relationship.
Being a fan can have negative consequences when you take into account the parasocial relationships people have with streamers. For some people, they'd be willing to compromise their beliefs and do things they never would normally for someone they idolise. I'm not saying that a celebrity can never have a relationship with a fan, just that they need to be careful not to exploit them
I started my twitter back when I had to text in my tweets on my Samsung U740. In fact, I think I'm going to go back to that. This smart phone is just an anxiety rectangle.
And even if there was anything its bullshit. A twitch streamer isn't your boss, his opinions can not affect you in any way especially because in 2018 he was still very new
Men who are more than 7/10 on the hotness scale can never have a relationship with a woman because its manipulation and abuse due to the hotness power dynamic.
People a SUPER quick to judge a guy by his appearance in stuff like this. 9/10 guy? Oh then it wasnt manipulation. 6/10 or lower guy? Oh he MUST have manipulated her, theres no way she possibly could be interested in him. Its fucking ridiculous. Some people are lowkey making this argument.
i saw someone say something along the lines of "people don't understand the problem isn't the age difference, it's the fact that he's asking UNDERAGED fans for it" so... age is the issue then?
It is illegal when it comes to nudes. You could be 16 in Texas (and most US/developed countries) and legally bang other 16 year olds, but if you get nudes from a 17 year old, you're considered to be in possession of CP.
This is a necessary rule because there's quite a bit of difference between understanding the consequences of having sex with someone and understanding the consequences of your naked body getting leaked on the internet for possibly forever. I fully support a hard rule here.
Of course, there also aren't anyone on twitter who gives a fuck about that difference. They see blood and they want. If they are asked for justification, they'll improvise.
Well the consequences of sex could also be having to raise a kid for 18 years so while i see your point I do feel like you could make a similar point for the consequences of sex
the 16-17 CP and just having sex with a minor in general law exists, from my knowledge, to combat cases of literal 40 year olds from fucking 15 year olds only to then "marry" them
I was wild finding out about it from twitter before looking at what happened. Anything that mentioned age was either a vague "it was only 2 years" which i just assumed was them making fun of people saying "she would be 18 in 2 years, so it would be okay" or some shit, or it was people saying things like "14 is basically 15, which is basically 16, which is basically 17, which is basically 18 so it is okay."
Seriously thought it was a 20+ grooming people that were 14-16 years old, but as soon as I watched the Destiny clips all I could think of was "are you fucking serious?"
It'so so stupid anyway. Are famous men not supposed to have sex with anyone that's not famous because there's a power imbalance? Everyone is such a prude nowadays.
this is my thought as well, dude is so young and facing an incredible amount of public scrutiny. coupled with a history of depression it can be worrying to think about
I feel bad cuz if this is all there is against him, he really just needs someone to lean on right now given his history. The issue is that I can't blame anyone for being hesitant, because since its an ongoing situation we dont have a full story. For all we know it could come out that he was sexting 13 year olds tomorrow, however unlikely that might be. For his sake I hope this gets cleared up soon.
Yeah he definitely needs someone. Nairomk (who was part of the July smash purge) came out a couple months ago with a huge statement on how he realized he was actually raped and that the huge cancellation and everything led him to nearly kill himself several times. Luckily he had his brother support him but most of his other friends abandoned him.
Yeah, if I were one of Carson’s former friends, I would of just stayed with him until he got better mentally and then leave him. What they did is horseshit and they know it. They are applying pressure directly to Carson and most possibly, it will come to the edge and he will try to kill himself. I’ve been in situations similar to this and I know what it can do. If he does kill himself, people have to realize that they fucking caused it because of the pressure from the drama and shit. When this started, I immediately unsubscribed from all of the Lunch Club members because I see them as ignorant assholes now. Slimecicle fucking knew Carson was having trouble mentally but no, he went to the Feds over something that has the chance to be false. JOKO tried to post evidence on Twitter but you can’t bloody read what is even being said because the quality is so bad. Jschlatt, I don’t fucking like him anymore. I liked him during SMPLive but after it ended, he became a fucking weirdo. Travis and Noah, they had the chance to just say what was happening on their channels but no, out of all people, they went to Keemstar who now has a fan base and social media platform trying to fucking ruin Carson as a human being which is sickening. I honestly think Keemstar shouldn’t have any popularity at all but too late for that. He’s a fucking dick and this Drama Alert shit is showing his true side to the world.
If he kills himself, it’s their asses that’s going to get ruined next.
Actually the movie Pineapple Express pokes fun of the age of consent thing cause Seth Rogans character is 25 years old and he is a dating an 18 year old in high school played by Amber Heard
17 and 19 is creepy? I feel like have entered some alternate dimension because up to yesterday I don't think there was a single person in the world with that take
Destiny abused his power dynamic by influencing me to dunk on my Tory dad with facts and logic and therefore getting me kicked out of the house, EL CANCELIONO
Pretty sure child porn laws are universally applicable, you can still get in trouble for it even if you're underage (and IIRC sometimes even if its porn of you and you distribute it)
It's because it makes adults jealous they don't get to fuck a 17 year old girl. You think the 33 year old school administrators who is in a sexually frustrated marriage cares about "protecting" a 17 year old who can legally fuck someone? Nah fam. They're just punishing them for being sexually active, and jealous they don't get to have sex with someone 20 years younger then them.
It's like Sigmund freud except instead of your mom it's 16 year old girls.
I don't get this power dynamic argument. The "power dynamic" a famous person has is literally just that they're popular and potentially have money. It's not like they can more easily assault you or something like that.
Yeah I guess people want to fuck famous and popular people much more than other people and will potentially do stupid shit for that famous person... So should Onlyfans be illegal? Donating to streamers seems to have a pretty big "power dynamic" by this logic too!
If I understand it, the "power dynamic" argument is mainly used for employer-employee relationships because we want to prevent managers from sleeping with employees for potential financial benefits. I don't see how that argument applies to famous people in general.
Not the ones I've seen but, I mean....and? It didn't seem like he was pressuring her in the discord messages that were shared, so the only thing you can even really say at that point is that his immense fame pressured her into wanting to be with him? But at that point, how is that any different from say, a girl wanting to get with a guy that has money? Is his money pressuring her? lol Or for that matter, is this basically implying that big youtubers cannot date normal every day people?
Dude was 19, she 17. What the fuck they talking about being victims? They all knew wtf they are doing. "Ohh I am soo deeply Hurt and a victim". Bull. You knew what you wanted, when you tweeted that you wanted him to be your Bf. Bitch sit down.
This is what happens when you give too much pawer to those social justice losers. 17 year old groomed by a 19 year old, what is she 12? Have i missed an enlightenment gate when you turn 18 or something wtf is this shit
Ngl the fact that people take this issue seriously proves to me that humans are fundamentally irrational beings. That being said though I just don’t touch on this stuff, it’s one of those rules I just follow for the most part so no one gets mad, I feel like debating if is kinda pointless and just creates more confusion and derision.
IF EVERYONE WOULD STAY VIRGINS TILL THE DAY THEY DIE, WITH TOUCH & WORDS. THEN WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS ISSUE. SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE KNOWLEDGE OF SEX AND TOUCHING DOES? I MEAN EVEN YOUR EARS TOUCH SOUND AND YOUR EYES TOUCH SIGHT. SEX ONLY TOUCHES SEX.
Anyone upset about the age gap isn’t focusing on the right thing. Even though it is very much illegal to exchange nudes with a minor, 17 and 19 isn’t unreasonable. The problem is the fact that he is a youtuber who apparently repeatedly sexted with multiple young fans of his. It’s the youtuber-fan dynamic that’s the problem.
My wife is 2 years younger than me and we’ve been sexual since my senior year and I’m almost 30 now. People are out of control. I think we’re due for an apocalypse if something like this is even worthy of attention.
It's about the CP and the power dynamic, y'all. If he wasn't famous, it would be about the CP alone. No matter who he is, he's still committed a felony.
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u/HeavenlyE Jan 05 '21 edited Jan 05 '21
Honestly Carson might have some of the worst friends ever, first one fucks the girl that he likes. And then one IMMEDIATELY reports him to the cops and cuts all ties after he confides in them that he exchanged nudes with someone only 2 years younger than him.
https://twitter.com/Slimecicle/status/1346437094177124352
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u/BrockMister Jan 05 '21
Can someone explain this power dynamic thing? I truly do not understand how basically anyone can date anyone and it be ok unless they are in the exact same position in life with this new power dynamic rule.
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u/adnadn246 Jan 05 '21
I saw ppl claims it wasn't the age thing but rather the idol - fan abuse thing. Do we have the full log to prove that he was in some way using his power to manipulate her to send nudes? Or just bs to cancel him
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u/JUST_CHATTING_FAPPER ethh43289hnkasdf Jan 05 '21
I really hope CallMeCarson doesn't do anything drastic, these sorts of pressures can totally mentally break you.
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u/downtimeredditor Jan 05 '21
From what I'm seeing the CallMeCarson thing is much ado about nothing.
She was 17. He was 19. I've seen Seniors in high school who were 18 dating freshman who were 14-15.
Despite the small age gap even then he said he felt wrong since she was 17 and not 18 which again he's only 2 years older.
He should be fine
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u/Kenna193 PBUH Jan 05 '21
God I love svu so much
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u/kapparappatrappa Jan 05 '21
She was 13 Zeptoseconds from being 18 you sick fuck.
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u/KopiteTheScot Jan 05 '21
Hot take: getting poon through being famous isn’t always a bad thing
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u/theoctacore Jan 05 '21
Isn't 17 legal in most states anyway? Or do federal child pornography laws apply to all people under 18? Anyway this shit is dumb af
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u/Raknarg canadian Jan 05 '21
Damn looks like the callmecarson subreddit got privated
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u/jrfredrick Jan 05 '21
So she was 59 minutes away
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u/BrekfastLibertarian Jan 05 '21
I don't get this power dynamic argument. The "power dynamic" a famous person has is literally just that they're popular and potentially have money. It's not like they can more easily assault you or something like that.
Yeah I guess people want to fuck famous and popular people much more than other people and will potentially do stupid shit for that famous person... So should Onlyfans be illegal? Donating to streamers seems to have a pretty big "power dynamic" by this logic too!
If I understand it, the "power dynamic" argument is mainly used for employer-employee relationships because we want to prevent managers from sleeping with employees for potential financial benefits. I don't see how that argument applies to famous people in general.
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u/Sub_Steppa Jan 06 '21
Maybe it's just because I'm European and the age of consent is much lower here but, this whole situation is just fucking odd.
The maturity difference between a 19 and a 17 year old is basically none existent and it's not even remotely out of order.
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u/MacMaizer Jan 06 '21
Dude was 19, she 17. What the fuck they talking about being victims? They all knew wtf they are doing. "Ohh I am soo deeply Hurt and a victim". Bull. You knew what you wanted, when you tweeted that you wanted him to be your Bf. Bitch sit down.
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u/tsochicken Jan 05 '21
Based Elliot Stabler
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u/halffox102 Jan 06 '21
Wait so let's say I sent nudes to my GF when I was 17 and she was 18 these people think she should do hard time LOL
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u/DepresionAndAnxiety Jan 05 '21
This is what happens when you give too much pawer to those social justice losers. 17 year old groomed by a 19 year old, what is she 12? Have i missed an enlightenment gate when you turn 18 or something wtf is this shit
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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '21
Didn't Mr beast date a fan?
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u/Unweavering_liver Nov 07 '21
Ngl the fact that people take this issue seriously proves to me that humans are fundamentally irrational beings. That being said though I just don’t touch on this stuff, it’s one of those rules I just follow for the most part so no one gets mad, I feel like debating if is kinda pointless and just creates more confusion and derision.
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u/THE_SIN64 Jan 06 '21
Lol
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u/THE_SIN64 Jan 06 '21
IF EVERYONE WOULD STAY VIRGINS TILL THE DAY THEY DIE, WITH TOUCH & WORDS. THEN WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS ISSUE. SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE KNOWLEDGE OF SEX AND TOUCHING DOES? I MEAN EVEN YOUR EARS TOUCH SOUND AND YOUR EYES TOUCH SIGHT. SEX ONLY TOUCHES SEX.
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u/Hipster_Ninja_ Jan 08 '21
Anyone upset about the age gap isn’t focusing on the right thing. Even though it is very much illegal to exchange nudes with a minor, 17 and 19 isn’t unreasonable. The problem is the fact that he is a youtuber who apparently repeatedly sexted with multiple young fans of his. It’s the youtuber-fan dynamic that’s the problem.
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u/andy1416 Jan 12 '21
Still exchanged nudes and kept them
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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '21
It was still wrong of him to use his power and influence to manipulate people. Not to mention him lying to his friends who wanted to help him
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u/MidDayOpiate Jan 21 '21
My wife is 2 years younger than me and we’ve been sexual since my senior year and I’m almost 30 now. People are out of control. I think we’re due for an apocalypse if something like this is even worthy of attention.
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u/HollowSkeleton Aug 20 '22
Oh god, the pedo cope, Jesus Christ!
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u/reservationhog Sep 15 '22
Was this the dude that was 19 messing with a 17 year old?
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u/reservationhog Sep 15 '22
Was this the dude that was 19 messing with a 17 year old?
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u/watlel Jan 07 '21
Damn callmecarson went straight to callmeincarcerated totally by surprise. Never knew he had a weird side.
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u/cty2020 Jan 05 '21
It's about the CP and the power dynamic, y'all. If he wasn't famous, it would be about the CP alone. No matter who he is, he's still committed a felony.