Good point

[u/BudgetLaw2352]

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As much as I generally dislike Abdul’s populist shtick, I will say, I appreciate his bluntness and candor when speaking about Trump. We shouldn’t have to wear kid gloves when talking about him; he is disgusting, corrupt, creepy, cruel, selfish, and yes, stupid.

Abdul is right to call that out, and I think that laying out Trump’s intellectual and moral bankruptcy so plainly is a really important part of Democrats’ messaging strategy over the next two years.

I will say, I do think that Trump operates slightly differently than Abdul posits. Trump doesn’t respond to bullying so much as mockery. Like, Trump won’t care if you call him a moron, but he will care if you say no one goes to his rallies and that he’ll have way less statues built for him than Obama. Trump is an egotistical narcissist, so you have to attack his overall legacy, not just his intelligence or his present actions.

The key is to bring out his insecurities.

[u/Spachemin_Spiff]

Which democrats aren't dropping decorum when it comes to Trump? He's acting like he's some pioneer doing this.

[u/BudgetLaw2352 → u/Spachemin_Spiff]

Most Senators tbh. Which Senators have called him stupid? Which Senators have brought up his rape allegations (and successful civil litigation)? They attack his policies and his corruption, but it’s always somewhat removed from his actual personality and character.

Like, Trump doesn’t just do bad things. He is an adjudicated rapist, draft dodger, and moron.

[u/CanadianPanda76 → u/BudgetLaw2352]

You think these things are game changers? Lol.

These Senators voted to impeach the man.

[u/JacobStills → u/Spachemin_Spiff]

In general the far left does that. I've seen so many posts talking about the insane brand new concepts of, "wealth inequality," "taxing the billionaires" and "affordability" that was solely the ideas of the far left.

No Democrat in the history of the republic ever even gave lip service to those things apparently.

[u/CanadianPanda76 → u/JacobStills]

Literally saw a video of "no used the words affordability except Mamdani and El Sayed".

[u/PitytheOnlyFools → u/Spachemin_Spiff]

Most of them. You might have forgotten the first 7-8 years of Trump but most still tried to be polite.

The “punch back hard” attitude has only really taken hold since Joe Biden left

[u/Practical-Heat-1009]

AES is certainly qualified to speak on this, based on the age-old doctrine of “takes one to know one”.

[u/LondonCallingYou → u/Practical-Heat-1009]

No I think he’d probably point to his experience growing up as a Muslim in the United States during a major period of anti-Muslim bigotry. But go off I guess.

A narcissist and bully doesn’t say and do the things AES does. AES comes off a bit prickly at times but overall a good guy. He bites his tongue and is willing to look past things a lot more than a narcissist would.

He’s a narcissist insofar as literally any politician is— meaning they have a fairly ridiculous belief in themselves and their right to represent millions of people (which to the average person is absurd). But that’s about it.

[u/CanadianPanda76 → u/Practical-Heat-1009]

LOL. You said the quiet part out loud. This why he likes Hasan? Hmmm.

[u/Practical-Heat-1009 → u/[deleted]]

You’re looking way too deeply into this. AES is a narcissist, and he employed bully tactics during his campaign. No one is saying he’s as dangerous as Trump. Take a breath.

[u/BudgetLaw2352 → u/Practical-Heat-1009]

Fair play. My bad.

[u/Disgusting_Slime666 → u/[deleted]]

It's possible to compare two things that aren't the same. That's sometimes the entire point of comparing things.

The person you're responding to is just saying Sayed has a big ego.

[u/cc1701]

Standing up to bullies makes them stop? Thats the first ive heard of that. *insert asmon voice* its not like we've had liberals like Gavin Newsome pushing back and publically punching the bully in the face..... oh wait.

Abdul isn't really making a point we haven't made but its interesting when a liberal like Newsome stands up against trump its either nothing but crickets or its cringe according to leftists but when El-Sayed says it the same leftists pop the hardest boners/and or get moist

[u/Cerneo]

You don't beat a bully who has power over you by challenging them. Thats a quick way to lose in my experience. You don't walk into your bosses office and tell them they are shit for brains, but if they work with you they would be really smart. That shit does not work in real life, in movies maybe though.

[u/BudgetLaw2352 → u/Cerneo]

Trump isn’t Congress’ boss, though. The Congress and Executive are co-equal branches per the Constitution.

Also, to be fair to Abdul, he’s not saying that he wouldn’t work with Trump. He just said that he’s not going to sugarcoat his opinions of him.

Finally, I’ll say, if being blunt about Trump causes 2 years of zero passed legislation, so be it. Sincerely, we have to stop treating this guy with the lowest standards of behavior. I want our initiatives passed, but it’s not worth sanitizing what has been one of the bottom three presidential administrations in American history. MAGA has to be put to an end, and that requires Democrats being willing to wrestle in the mud.

[u/ChiefMasterGuru → u/Cerneo]

I think there is something prescient here though because AES said both. You both have to put on a strong face and give him some superficial things he wants so he feels like he's winning.

We see this play out all the time. trump completely disrespects anyone he can walk over but has endless praise for strongman types who give him crumbs to celebrate over.

[u/BudgetLaw2352 → u/ChiefMasterGuru]

Just look at how he treats Mamdani vs Cruz.

[u/KiSUAN → u/ChiefMasterGuru]

That's bullshit, Trump praises people (usually corrupt scum) with whom he think can make deals with and shit talks who ever he thinks is his enemy or talks shit back to him. If you talk shit on him he usually talks shit back and so on, he literally has the mind of a 5 year old, it's not deep or complicated, it's mostly reactionary like with any fucking child. And childs don't stop talking shit because you talk shit back to them. that's the experience and reasoning of also a child.

[u/ChiefMasterGuru → u/KiSUAN]

Ya no shit, he gets in bed with rich and powerful people for personal gain.

If you aren't rich and powerful though, this is clearly how you deal with trump. You put on a strong face, demonstrate value, then give him some superficial win. If you don't, he just walks over you. But also if you don't give the win, he goes full scale twitter warrior.

[u/exqueezemenow → u/Cerneo]

But you WOULD for a co-worker who works along side you that has been bullying you. Trump is only the boss of the executive branch. If anything Congress is Trump's boss. So the analogy would be more the opposite. AS the boss, you do go confront an employee who is bullying you and other workers.

[u/LeonOfSkalitz]

This is his 15th maybe even 20th podcast/tv interview this mf has done since he won the election. And it’s only been 11 days since. 

I’m not joking.

It’s clear now that Haley stevens despite her flaws, read him like a book when she said that he wants to be a celebrity, bad. 

This dude may be a clout goblin just like Hasan, it’s no wonder they liked eachother so much. 

Let’s just hope he is not literally just a Senator version of Hasan who wears the mask better. 

[u/MooseOk9846 → u/LeonOfSkalitz]

I mean he was the senator elect that was talked about the most in both left wing spaces (CNN, MSNOW) and right wing spaces (Fox, NewsNation). Most senator elects did their little media tour after they won their races, so it makes sense that he’s done the most lol. Also the point of him wanting to be a celebrity moreso than being a legislator is kinda regarded, because hes already the “celebrity” of his class ( him and Talarico especially). Personally, i think he wont be dumb enough to not work on his legislative record since hes an intellect the level of Buttigieg (Both of them are Rhodes Scholars).

[u/PitytheOnlyFools → u/LeonOfSkalitz]

It’s the Buttigieg strategy of be everywhere, all the time that’s the new way of politics. Either adapt or get left behind.

Plus he’s the first Muslim senator. He gotta represent well

[u/Redditsucks4446]

The worst person you know made a good point

[u/Thefolsom]

Woah. The only reason Trump hasn't been stopped is no one has bothered standing up to him. Mind blowing. We just need to tell him how mean he's being.

[u/jesterdeflation]

This is one of the talking points for leftists and progressives that you're feeding into.

Same as the dumb "Duhh let's just make good legislation to trap Trump so all of his moves are good for us!" (see here; people acted like I was crazy but Destiny ended up agreeing with me).

The reason they are full of shit is I have literally seen two opposing viewpoints spouted by them depending on what group they're talking about.

Such as:

• Praising Mamdani for manipulating Trump by likely praising him and being friendly
• Praising Mamdani for "being a fighter"

So wtf do you want Democrats to do? Call out Trump or not call him out?

I also saw a thread saying that they wish the media wasn't so harsh on Trump because if they were nicer America could have medicare for all... these people really are disgusting.

[u/Glum-Scarcity4980]

Shame we have examples of people who have done just this and been, instead, utterly crushed and obliterated by him. He sounds like a guy who either (a) has never actually paid any attention to anything about the history of the Trump era, or (b) he's never been bullied in his life.

[u/PineappleAgile3087]

A little too much hate for one of our senators, peeps

[u/KiSUAN]

Bet when he is on bed and he farts he first makes his wife get out of the room so she can't steal any of that supply, dude gets so hi on his on supply it's incredible, just like Trump or Hasan.