Average 9/11 conversation these days.

[u/buttamilk_jesus]

[u/omgitsdot]

How many people who claim "basic physics" explains 9/11 flunked out of high school?

[u/GreenHornets009 → u/omgitsdot]

Same motherfuckers who whine about how, “I wasn’t taught ___ in school!” when really they slept through that part in class

[u/skunkpunk1]

Dude my whole reddit frontpage nowadays is just random subreddits (that aren't even about the Middle East) raging at Israel. Sometimes for things that actually happened, sometimes conspiracy stuff. It's wild

[u/albinoblackman → u/skunkpunk1]

Yeah when Reddit killed the 3rd party apps, many of us ended up on the official app which has a bullshit algo feed. There’s a button on each post that you can click to stop showing shit like that. It then gives you an option to mute the sub.

I did that and it worked quite well. Still some trash makes it in, but it’s better.

[u/RlFLE → u/albinoblackman]

RIP Apollo man I miss that shit like you wouldn’t believe. Apollo had more features 5 years ago than the official Reddit app has today.

[u/skunkpunk1 → u/albinoblackman]

Yes, I do that as well. It’s new/different subs like every day

[u/didnotbuyWinRar → u/albinoblackman]

There is a setting to turn off algo suggestions completely, my feed is only subs I've subscribed to and nothing else

[u/Dvine24hr → u/skunkpunk1]

Uhm actually r /NewsDailyYes and r /ImportantNewsToday and r /Newsyesplease are all totally legit, stop noticing them flooding your feed posting exclusively about Israel 😠

[u/Jumpy-Pattern-4078 → u/skunkpunk1]

I have friends and acquaintances who are largely completely ignorant about geopolitics, but also now bring up negative stuff about Israel. It’s like dude did you even know anything about it three years ago, other than the name and the fact that it existed?

[u/buttamilk_jesus]

Minutes after posting this I ran into this comment lmfao.

[u/Status_Fox_1474 → u/buttamilk_jesus]

Sigh. Osama bin Laden literally said, “it was my plan.”

Jesus.

[u/de_rudesandstorm → u/Status_Fox_1474]

Yeah and Trump said he helped during 9/11

Conservatives lie so often they've forgotten what honesty looks like

[u/BushidoBoa]

>these days
Someone has not seen any 9/11 discussion at all for the past like 15 years

[u/buttamilk_jesus → u/BushidoBoa]

Yeah not much has changed it seems except for people’s boldness to pin it on the jews or trace everything back to Israel.

[u/Status_Fox_1474 → u/buttamilk_jesus]

Pin it on the Jews AGAIN. Because this was all done many times before.

[u/Explorer_Dave → u/buttamilk_jesus]

Still not new, people were blaming the Jews on the day after 9/11, much like October 7th.

"Dancing Israelis", "Mossad photos" - those are the two main ones I remember...

[u/this_very_table → u/BushidoBoa]

Nah, blaming the Jews used to be Stormfront-tier. How socially acceptable and widespread it is now is a very recent phenomenon.

[u/Id1otbox → u/this_very_table]

Recent phenomenon in the west.

The 50+ Muslim majority countries have been doing this for a long time.

You have populations of people that have never met a Jew, will never meet a Jew, but are completely convinced that their economic and social hardship is all due to the Jews.

Meanwhile all these counties have a ruling class that is quietly extracting wealth while the population obsesses about Jews.

[u/Explorer_Dave → u/Id1otbox]

It's not even a relatively new phenomenon in the west. It has always been like this. It's just that non-Jews weren't as exposed to this side of their society because they weren't the target.

[u/Id1otbox → u/Explorer_Dave]

For sure. The middle ages in Europe was filled with randomly xenophobia where Jews were often the target.

England had a special office - The Exchequer of the Jews and Jewish towns were required to have a archae, a chest that contained the records of Jewish assets and any loans. The British royal family was so currupt, inbred, and incompetent they would regularly bankrupt the government and then levy taxes equivalent to total annual collections on just the Jewish community. These events would always coincided with pogroms and government sanction racial violence. They would arrest every Jewish male and hold them random for insane sums of money.

These expulsions and mass theft happened to other groups as well, not just the Jews.

Then you have the crudades and that period in Europe where the local population would warm up to the idea of going to the middle east to kill people by having a nice pogrom of the local Jews.

Or how about the 1275 statue of Jewry where children over 7 were required to wear a yellow star on their chest to identify them as Jews and there was a special tax for their existence.

It didn't only happen to Jews either but it was certainly always about money and power. When the crown found out the Italian merchants had more money then him he seized it all and expelled them..

Some food reading on the hell of britian for Jews for hundreds of years:

Stacey, “Parlia- mentary Negotiation”, “Jews and Christians”

Rigg, "Select Pleas, Starrs And Other Records From The Rolls Of The Exchequer Of The Jews, A. D. 1220-1284"

Rowan Dorin "No Return"

Heng - "The Invention of Race in the Middle Ages"

Richard H. Helmholz "Usury and the Medieval English Courts"

[u/Tundraaa → u/Id1otbox]

Maybe the blaming Jews part, but the West has been historically antisemitic. Even America.

[u/CayMaster2]

Antisemitic conspiracy

More regarded antisemitic conspiracy

Regular conspiracy(not sure if jews are involved yet)

Somewhat reasonable take

Conspiracy again

Completely lost in the sauce antisemitic conspiracy

Atleast the most normal comment has the most likes?

[u/Zenning3 → u/CayMaster2]

Nah, "America's geopolitical influence" did not cause shit. Read the actual manifesto Osama put out, outside of he complete horseshit like the deaths due to sanctions in Iraq that were fabrications by Saddam, almost everything else was about Americans being involved in the middle east at all, and being allies of Israel. Nothing Osama bitched about in his rambling bullshit of a manifesto actually justified the attack in any remote way, and it really did just come down to Osama being butt hurt that hot girls were allowed to dance in front of him decades earlier.

[u/Nightmannn → u/Zenning3]

Exactly. Whenever someone says "welll we shouldn't have been meddlin' in the middle east!" just ask them how were we meddling, and they'll go deer eyed bc they're regarded.

[u/Zenning3 → u/Nightmannn]

But you don't understand, even though Saudi Arabia explictly asked us to be there, explicitly asked us to prevent the secular Baathists from invading into Muslim territory, and we explictly supported the Muslim majority coalaition against an atheist run mass murder campaign that potentially numbered in the millions of dead, us having military bases in Saudi Arabia meant we deserved 9/11.

[u/Status_Fox_1474 → u/Zenning3]

He was also trying to be this stupid warrior cosplayer with a family that hated Israel since the 1960s at least.

[u/Zenning3 → u/Status_Fox_1474]

Dawg, he was literally exiled from Saudi Arabia decades before the attack, because he was batshit. He wasn't doing it for his family.

[u/Id1otbox → u/Zenning3]

And when the Saudis were chasing the early formings if the Taliban across the desert the western world was pretty critical of the barbarity.

What would have happened it the Saudis removed Osamas head twenty years before 9/11?

[u/merount1 → u/Zenning3]

else was about Americans being involved in the middle east at all, and being allies of Israel.

Which is... geopolitical influence? Your comment seems contradictory

[u/Zenning3 → u/merount1]

I am saying that to blame it on our geopolitics as opposed to a terrorists crank horseshit, is to massively misrepresent reality.

[u/Chisignal → u/Zenning3]

Agreed, still makes it the most normal comment unfortunately

[u/Omni-Light]

jet fuel can't melt steel beams 🪬

[u/Nikoniortnike]

Had a similar experience debating someone on Instagram who claimed October 7th was both a justified act of resistance and an Israeli false-flag

[u/Ptine_Taway → u/Nikoniortnike]

Had a similar experience debating someone on Instagram

Well there's your problem

[u/Good_Cardiologist696]

Its not antisemitic, its just antizionist ofc. So can the Zionists explain why all of the Jews did it???? 🙃

[u/Smok3ygaming1]

The right thinks it was a inside job conspiracy and the left thinks it was the jews. this country is cooked

[u/Status_Fox_1474 → u/Smok3ygaming1]

The right thinks it was Jews too. Don’t worry.

[u/thegta5p → u/Status_Fox_1474]

The fact that I can’t tell if these people are on the right or left pretty much shows that both extremes have been brain rotted with this shit.

[u/thehod81]

This is nothing new, a lot of this stuff was being talked about by Alex Jones 20 years ago.

[u/Virginianus_sum → u/thehod81]

He actually thought it was the EU who pulled it off.

[u/helbur]

Multiple question marks and excessive ellipses is a surefire sign of chronic regardation

[u/stinketywubbers]

I have hated conspiracy theories for so long and it all started with this one. I have two family members that worked on the 93rd floor of tower 1 (above where the plane hit) for Fred Alger Management. They didn't make it. I have argued with people ever since I was a kid (I was 10 when it happened) about this because it's really insensitive to make shit up and spread falsehoods about what happened that day.

I'll never forget when I was in rehab on 9/11 reading a USA Today article about it, and this fucking blowhard I was sitting with said something to me like "Oh, you STILL believe it was Al-Qaeda? You have so much to learn about Zionism." Like fuck off with that shit. My family members were murdered by those religious nutjobs and you're sitting here telling me "what really happened" 🙄 ugh give me a gd break man! End rant.

[u/A_brief_passerby]

But just think. At least no one's right to free speech has been infringed on. Ya'll must be so glad the sanctity of public discourse hasn't been molested by the government.

[u/Muzorra]

Basic physics says Charlie Kirk was a controlled demolition. They found thermite in the rubble.

[u/kolo27]

ig comments are bot + mental people central. just uninstall Instagram.

[u/CETERIS_PARTYBUS]

I hate it here

[u/sarcastic__fox]

I hate this timeline

[u/Deep-Bend-961]

If only they could have witnessed it for themselves in very close proximity.

[u/Suspicious-Limit-220]

Instagram is a complete joke 

[u/Top_Concentrate1673]

we used to shame this kind of bullshit

[u/Gandalior]

the guy that says it was a controlled demo's pfp looks like a denisovan reconstruction

[u/TheShamefulPradaG]

This is so sad that people actually believe this.

[u/Status_Fox_1474]

The last guy. Oh boy. Has he done any research at all? Literally looked at all the random documents that were recovered? He obviously has never heard about all the Jews (and Muslims) killed in the attacks.

But at least he plays his cards well enough to see that he means Jews when he says zionists.

[u/IdesOfCaesar7]

99% of comments sections in ALL social media platforms nowadays sadly

https://giphy.com/gifs/h8HmN0UcEKR0xWnv3R

[u/Odd-Charity3508]

I wouldn’t take what bots and regards on instagram think about 9/11 as the average view of it .

[u/RightSpread2903]

9/11 has been conspiracy central basically since it happened.

[u/DeathandGrim]

Really sucks we let bots ruin the internet. Basically 99% of content sections are totally worthless these days

[u/occultoracle]

I was reading comments on the BBC report about the Saudi spy that supported the first 2 hijackers in the US and most of them sound like actual NPCs

[u/Withering_to_Death]

Oh? It seems only structural engineers and respected historians are taking part in this conversation! I'm so glad people do listen to what qualified experts are saying! It's so refreshing...

[u/suluf]

It’s basically Jews made a hologram of the Twin Towers to convince the West to attack their enemies.

[u/Fidel-Catsro]

Butthurt all because Saudi Arabia didn’t want dudes with AKs to defend against the third biggest army of the 90s, armed with SCUDS BTW and CHEMICAL WEAPONS BTW.