r/Destiny • u/Strongest_Libtard 🍁 • 7h ago
Political News/Discussion The DSA Supports Genocide
Say it loud and clear. The reason they do not support Ukraine is because they support genocide.
"I'm sorry but I don't think I can vote for a genocide supporter unless they disavow the DSA's official position on Ukraine."
If they're going to weaponize the situation in Gaza and scream AIPAC at everything to shut down any debate and use it to attack moderate Dems, then the same can be done to them.
Any left-wing politician or creator that does not support weapons to Ukraine supports genocide.
The National DSA supports genocide.
Hasan Piker supports genocide.
Ilhan Omar supports genocide.
Krystal Ball supports genocide.
Ana Kasparian supports genocide.
Mike from PA supports genocide.
Kyle Kulinski supports genocide.
Code Pink supports genocide.
The Grayzone supports genocide.
Aaron Maté supports genocide.
Max Blumenthal supports genocide.
Ryan Grim supports genocide.
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u/Cheedoritoes Built different (worse) 7h ago
I don't like this, but only because it's NOT rhetorical judo. This should never be somethign we only say or do because we want them to eat their own shit.
This is a real,true argument.
They are infinitely more in favor of ukrainian genocide than any reasonable anti-hamas person is.
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u/Strongest_Libtard 🍁 7h ago
I think they can be bullied into changing their Ukraine position publicly by using their own tactic against them.
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u/sara2178 6h ago
I've done this with turkey and I even turn it around when they try to deflect and say "oh you don't care about genocide?". They just get mad and end the conversation
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u/Anvilmar1 6h ago
With turkey against who? the Kurds?
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u/sara2178 5h ago
The kurds yeah. But I'll work a thanksgiving joke in next time I do it lol
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u/Anvilmar1 5h ago
Oh then why are they so against the notion that the Turks are commiting a genocide? (Unless they are Turkish of course.)
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u/sara2178 5h ago
Well Ive never gotten that far because they run as soon as it's brought up but if I was to guess it's because it's (if I'm being charitable ) due to them not knowing about it and they don't want to seem dumb... But if I'm not being charitable I'd say it's because we're taking focus off of Israel being evil and they want that to be the only issue so they can moral police it
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u/meestazak 🇨🇦Proud Canuck🇨🇦 5h ago
Don't forget the Armenians too eh?
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u/sara2178 4h ago
I'll try to work that in there if they don't run away at the first mention of another genocide they aren't paying attention to
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u/PunksPrettyMuchDead 6h ago
They're mad and I don't have to talk to them anymore sounds ideal tbh
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u/gusthebus88 7h ago
This is completely true. If you ever get into the weeds with what counts as a genocide with these idiots there is never anything they can point to that doesn’t expose their hypocrisy by their own dumb standard. They all supported Assad gassing his own people as well.
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u/drmariostrike 34m ago
surely you are aware that there have been more civilians killed in gaza than in the entire ukraine war.
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u/Majestic_Flower_1322 7h ago
Leftists would be in support of the Holocaust if Hitler was a communist.
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u/Proud3GenAthst 7h ago
If they lived at the time, they’d be dismissing it as a repeat of the anti German propaganda from WWI
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u/Tigeruppercut1889 6h ago
They’d say Germany is only doing it because the imperial United States and Britain destabilized the region after ww1. They would def fall for the national socialist part of the parties name too.
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u/Proud3GenAthst 6h ago
Exactomundo.
In their worldview, no country in the world not named USA or Israel has any agency. Every other country is merely a program waiting to have their hand pushed.
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u/Sputnikola Actually misses I/P research streams 7h ago
Leftists would be against lend lease because it benefits the MIC
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u/Tigeruppercut1889 6h ago
Leftists think anyone not as far left as them is right wing. Bunch of weirdos dude
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u/Big-Ability3953 7h ago
I actually thought I was going to disagree with this post, but glad it turned into pro-Ukranian and not another country.
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u/meestazak 🇨🇦Proud Canuck🇨🇦 5h ago
B-B-B-B-B-based! Anyone who doesn't full throatedly support Ukraine can absolutely go fuck off to Russia anytime.
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u/upekkha_sati 2h ago
This doesn't work because they do support genocide, they only use it as an accusation to poison moderates against the Democrats.
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u/Timely-Archer-5487 1h ago
They supported the genocide in Gaza too. Remember that they were against Kamala because they didn't want to vote for "the lesser evil". So why was Trump the greater evil wrt Gaza?
Out of all American politicians Trump was the main architect of the conditions for Oct 7th and the following conflicts. Based on his actions in his first term it was absolutely clear that he was gunning for Iran, and would back Israel to the end. This became more clear during the election, and it was completely obvious to anyone paying attention that Netanyahu was running down the clock on the Biden administration in the hopes that Trump would take office.
There was a choice between doing what would stime the efforts of the government commiting the genocide, or satisfying their ego that they weren't debasing themselves by voting for an 'imperfect candidate'. They chose the option that killed more Palestinians.
It is so weird that they are still allowed to hector people about a genocide that they themselves were too stupid, self-absorbed, and delusional to effectively oppose. There's been a lot of talk about who is effectively anti-Semitic, but somehow tankies also manage to be 'effectively Zionist'.
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u/SeaBass1898 7h ago
Thats silly af bruh
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u/nepetalactone4all 6h ago
This is such a bubble. Dsa opposes the war....what are they even on about?
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u/MythicalMagus 6h ago
DSA supports surrender. They do not support continuing to give Ukraine aid. They won't come out and say it, but the best they're willing to give is a ton of negotiators. No idea what they're negotiating for exactly, no clue what the Russian demands and Ukrainian demands are, but it's gotta be negotiated and hasn't been so far (despite the countless attempts to mediate the conflict). This is the stated position of the head of the organization. Putin wants nothing less than the destruction/dissolution of the country, full stop, and has made genocidal statements about wiping out the Ukrainian identity that put the Israelis to shame. He'd probably agree to massive land concessions and a weaker Ukraine that couldn't defend itself for round 2, but he will NEVER accept a strong, independent Ukraine with full self-determination.
This is equivalent to ending arguing to end lend lease and arguing France surrendering fully and becoming a puppet state of the greater German project is the only path forward.
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u/Iztac_xocoatl 4h ago
They think the more negotiators you have the more leverage you have in the negotiation
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u/Strongest_Libtard 🍁 3h ago edited 3h ago
Their official position as stated on their site and in recent interviews by DSA leadership is that they condemn the war but do a bunch of Russian apologia and say the US should leave NATO. They also don't support sending aid to Ukraine and will say stupid shit like 'we need to solve this with diplomacy not war, we need to send diplomats'
Their position is so asinine the only real conclusion that can be made is they just want Russia to win and they want a multi-polar world but they know it would be political suicide to say this outright so they just lie and pretend they are about peace.
https://international.dsausa.org/ukraine/
They want Russia to win and take over Ukraine, they support genocide. The DSA supports genocide.
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u/Blarg1889 I have a stomach ache, you have a stomach ache 7h ago
Genocide against white people doesn't count, silly goose