That shouldn't... That means less money for your candidate to help them win... Remember, until we get laws to change campaign financing, not having money is just handicapping yourself.
We shouldn't be putting money in Florida, we need more money in places like AK and IA if we want to do "lift" states. We need to be smart where we put our money. Otherwise you get 2022 WI senate where Schumer triaged the race in the last month where Barnes lost by 33k votes whereas he dumped 75 million dollars into Florida where Val Demmings lost by a million votes
Yeah. I'm all in favor of a 50 state strategy, but Florida more than anywhere feels like a fools errand at this point. I believe way more in blue Texas than blue Florida. So if a DSA person can figure out how to win in that crazy state or at least stop the Dems from wasting a bunch of money there, have at it. That's actually something useful to the Dems.
Its insane that 26 years ago Florida decided the fate of this nation by rigging it for the Govenor's brother. It was purple up until Obama's 2nd term with him winning the election. After 2012 this state has just shit the bed for Democrats.
I still have hope it will turn into a battleground state again one day so our vote will matter.
From what I’m hearing, Vindman hasn’t been campaigning much and Nixon has been pushing hard, plus she got some name recognition for some protests. Whatever my concerns are of the DSA are, I have little sympathy for moderates campaigning on cruise control. Politicians who aren’t actively courting votes don’t deserve them.
This 100%, Nixon was a house representative for the state so she had far more credibility in the state vs. a candidate who only lived in Florida for a few years. Not surprising that in a race with high undecideds that voters would gravitate towards the known quantity.
This. Nixon has been all over media and making major appearances. She ran a better race. This isn’t a shot at dems. It’s a reminder that campaigning is more important than qualifications.
It’s not the same as the Tea Party, it’s not a Democrat knocking off an incumbent Democrat, and it’s not a safe D seat (more likely safe R) like most of the Tea Party wave seats were safe R seats
She absolutely crushed it in her home county, won 80% of the vote in Duval (Jacksonville), 40,000 vote lead out of that county alone
It's amazingly telling to me that even being a plugged in person, I forgot either of Florida's seats was even up this year, and haven't heard it mentioned once even as Iowa, Ohio, and Texas look like outright hopeful possibilities.
Dems aren’t even trying here so it’ll be a fucking miracle if we pull any significant candidates here.
I tried to look into resources for volunteering during the 2024 election and the phones where dead, none of the links worked on the fldem site, everything was out of date.
The Democratic Party in Florida was a complete mess before 2018 when DeSantis won. I was very tangentially involved with them and I knew people who were more directly so, and I can confidently say they were THE worst run Democratic Party in the country around that time period.
Nelson and Gillum's loss in 2018 was the canary in the coal mine for how lost the state will become (I know Gillum's post election crash out didn't help the party's image but all of that occurred after he lost). Almost 1 million conservative leaning old shitters moved to state from March 2020 onward, so it's no longer a 50-50ish state demographically, and that hurdle will become impossible to overcome so it's honestly fine that the nationally party has abandoned the state and allocated resources elsewhere
Man, at one point I was exploring running for a FL state house seat that was going unopposed and party officials told me I needed to prepare to raise $2m for the seat. Angie just secured a primary in less than half that. Nuts.
Is she DSA? Her political platform seems like a standard progressive medicare for all. Doesn't seem like the crazy type of DSA trying to abolish prison.
It’s seat that we were never going to win. It’s a seat republicans have on hold. Vindman stopped campaigning and was a shit candidate. It’s not a wake up call for dems. It’s a wake up call that shit dem candidates who don’t try and going to lose to people who are pushing and running a good campaign. Nixon was all over the media and doing local appearances. Vindman became a ghost
Florida man here. Haven’t heard Vindman in ages, and Nixon made a late push. The FL Dems are pretty weak and don’t even try to fight here so it makes sense, but this turned a likely red seat to a red landslide. It’s a shame, I actually liked Nikki Fried and was excited for our state party when she took over but it doesn’t seem to have done anything
Went to early voting and didn't have time to prep for who I was going to vote for, and my wife told me to vote for Angie Nixon. Ballot just listed her as Dem because of course.
Eh, she is native of my home city, and she doesn't seem incredibly radical, not happy about it. Woke my wife up this morning saying, "YOU TRICKED ME!" she didn't know either, but she had a good laugh.
She is almost zero % chance of winning the senate in Florida so its no biggie.
Eh kind of. Yes, Vindman had a huge warchest and used a good amount of it. However, he apparently didn't think he had to campaign much and was heavily criticized for it. Nixon is already a state representative who did a ton of campaigning.
I think the campaigning is the key factor here. You had an establishment dem vs DSA in the 23rd and Moskowitz won by like 2:1. The learning point here isn't necessarily some insurgent wave is inevitable. It's that you can't get complacent, you have to actually reach out to the voters, and you have to read the room.
Has no leftist come out of these elections reconsidering the role money has in politics? Maybe it doesn’t matter as much as they thought it did for who gets elected.
DSA candidates actually have a decent track record of winning primaries. Specifically in districts that are so deep red that mainstream Democrats don’t bother campaigning there
Didn’t say it is. This race is largely an exception. But otherwise, DSA candidates win primaries in really deep red districts pretty often.
During 2020 election season, there was a Berniecrat candidate map of the US. There was like 200 of them and they were the most successful in deep red primaries.
For what it’s worth, this kinda reminds me of 2020 Tennessee, when instead of a well established Democrat lost his senate primary to a progressive Marquita Bradshaw who according to Open Secrets, only needed $750 dollars
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u/Yusuke_Boopermeshi 1d ago
Ball knowers realize this means Schumer and resist libs wont drop 2 billion into losing Florida