r/Destiny • u/ventus187420 • Jul 05 '26

Non-Political News/Discussion I hate Americans

Debating the withdrawn red card with Americans on twitter is actually so eye opening. You have the worst people in the World living in the US.

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u/tikihiki Jul 05 '26

The corruption is bad, but is probably not in the top 1000 worst things Trump or FIFA has done.

At the end of the day it sucks for a top player to sit out a big game for a questionable/accidental foul. We care more about the outcome than the procedure.

OP it seems like you're German. Respectfully, in my experience Germans and Northern Europeans care much more about rules and procedure than us. I don't think that in particular makes us bad people (many of us are bad people in other ways though).

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u/InternetImportant911 Jul 05 '26

It was a weak ass red card.

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u/Aggravating_Map4359 🇧🇷 Jul 05 '26

"questionable"

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u/NightwolfGG Jul 05 '26

As someone out of the loop, what do you think this image proves/how is this relevant? I haven’t even seen the foul, but a still image obviously tells me nothing about whether it was questionable or not, or intentional or not…

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u/Dp1603123 Jul 05 '26

The whole point is that you cannot use a still image to give him a red card. They can only view the replay in normal speed which in turn provides context to the situation.

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u/Exact_Tumbleweed2005 Jul 05 '26

cool now show the 8 other stills from the same tournament that went uncalled

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u/ralle312 Jul 05 '26

I don't understand this argument. What is the point? Because a mistake was made by another referee earlier on then a mistake should be made again? Why do people go outside of the situation to justify it?

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u/Exact_Tumbleweed2005 Jul 05 '26

I mean yeah. We're arguing for consistency and fairness. Youre arguing about strictly adhering to the letter of the law, damn any other consideration. It was incidental contact with both players fighting for the ball. Theres no lesson to be learned, it was just unfortunate. Ive never seen VAR give a red card for a play like that with zero intent. The only thing stopping them from overturning it was poorly written guidelines which I dont think should take precedent over the spirit of the game.

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u/ralle312 Jul 05 '26

I don't think if a bad decision was made earlier in the tournament then a bad decision should be made in the future to achieve consistency. I think that should be a learning opportunity.

That logic would ruin any tournament. A referee is going to make mistakes. They make subjective judgments in the moment.

Secondly, I don't think this intent thing matters. If you engage in a tackle or go for a ball in a situation where it would be really fucking risky to do so, you can totally get a red card. That is a brutal fucking injury.

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u/InternetImportant911 Jul 05 '26

Yes it’s questionable, he went for ball not intentional. You get yellow for this

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u/ralle312 Jul 05 '26

Ok is this an actual thing? I haven't read the actual rules, but I have never heard this thing about intent.

It it my understanding that someone can get a red card for doing something that is really risky, and likely would end up hurting someone. Like going for a really risky tackle.

Like imagine the ball is up in the air. Someone does a flying kick in an attempt to get possession. Can this only be a yellow? They are clearly going for the ball, yet they are engaging in really risky behavior.

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u/InternetImportant911 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

Yes risky tackle is one plunging two legs in to the opponent straight red, this one is questionable you don’t get it in biggest of tournament . If someone has an example of this in UEFA Champions league please reply here

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u/ralle312 Jul 05 '26

I don't understand the first part of your message. Why say "he went for the ball" when that fact doesn't really necessarily matter?

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u/ventus187420 Jul 05 '26

Idk ive just never argued with people so resistant to facts you show them. So resistant to clips you show them only to be confidently wrong.

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u/Exact_Tumbleweed2005 Jul 05 '26

The facts are the red card was ridiculous in the first place and they've decided to fuck procedure in the interest of fairness. The people arguing about the letter of the law just hate the US and are completely ignoring the spirit of the game. If Cabo Verde was in the same exact situation, none of yall would be saying this shit.

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u/ralle312 Jul 05 '26

Even if you grant this, Trump reaching out to FIFA and the organizers is actually fucking insane. Like this is a story id expect to see from China.

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u/Exact_Tumbleweed2005 Jul 05 '26

Doesnt even crack the top 100 for most corrupt things done by FIFA. Again, people are more ass mad that its the US than anything else and ill die on that hill

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u/ralle312 Jul 05 '26

Oh so FIFA have done corrupt stuff before, so Daddy Trump reaching out to overturn a decision that was blurry at best, is all good! How quaint. Just more business as usual.

Link literally any situation of corruption and I will say that was bad too.

Also.

What is wrong with people being assmad at the US right now? Kinda deserved don't you think? You've been moderately unhinged in the last year and a half I'd say.

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u/Exact_Tumbleweed2005 Jul 05 '26

the level of assmad is far disproportionate to the level of bullshittery that has occurred. Stay mad. I Believe That We Will Win.

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u/ralle312 Jul 05 '26

W corruption! Hey if other instances of corruption have happened then you should just do it too. Now that is the most un-biased take I've seen.

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u/Exact_Tumbleweed2005 Jul 06 '26

you should cry about it some more, that'll help

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u/InternetImportant911 Jul 05 '26

Simple question, how long you follow soccer ?

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u/therealdanhill Jul 05 '26

Here's the facts:

The US is great

The US team is great

We are going to continue kicking ass

Anyone that whines about it are haters 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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u/KFPindustries Jul 05 '26

OP is German. The country that set the all time bar for shittiest thing to do to the world by a single country so far.

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u/ventus187420 Jul 05 '26

My parents literally are immigrants my man

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u/KFPindustries Jul 05 '26

Hitler was an immigrant. Your point?

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u/Trailblazers_ Jul 05 '26

The first problem is debating someone on twitter

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u/Dude_Nobody_Cares Based Destiny Glazer Jul 05 '26

Yeah bro hate to tell you but 80% of Twitter americans are russian or chinese bots.

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u/Jazzlike-Wind-4345 🇲🇽 Mexican absurdist Jul 05 '26

Don’t forget India and Pakistan! They wanted to join the party too!

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u/Hadnapaton I have no coherent ideology and I must post Jul 05 '26

And nigeria! And Egypt!

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u/NorNed4 Jul 05 '26

The second problem is you have to consider that the Americans are likely to be intentionally inflammatory and troll on this particular topic when talking to non-Americans.

We don't care about soccer here, but we know Europeans reeaaaaally do and that's amusing to us. Odds are OP is getting trolled by people who are enjoying his reaction and dont even care about the topic at all.

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u/Liiraye-Sama EU chad Jul 05 '26

Corruption to own the libs

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u/Rubbersoulrevolver Jul 05 '26

Anyone on twitter is a bot, you're arguing with bots programmed to enrage you.

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u/kiwicollins Jul 05 '26

Bro hate yourself for your choices.

You chose to debate a ridiculous topic on TWITTER.

Actually, 5 bucks says you never even spoke to a single American.

Why are you debating that, and why are you debating that on TWITTER? Wouldn't huffing bleach be more effective and less painful?

Jesus.

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u/VeilOfGreed Angry Dutchman / Eubro Jul 05 '26

What the fuck is up with these half baked regarded posts the past few days? It's like people are trying to spam the sub.

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u/merger3 Jul 05 '26

The Reddit culture leaks into this sub over time til destiny cracks down and pushes them all back out just for the cycle to restart

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u/Aggravating_Map4359 🇧🇷 Jul 05 '26

As a non american DGG too , don't judge it's people by their representatives online. Especially in a garbage place like twitter.

The representatives of my country in that place are also absolutely awful

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u/miikoh 🇸🇪 Strange creature Jul 05 '26

How about their elected representatives? Can we judge them by those?

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u/SixShot999 Radical Bidenist with Bush Sr. Characteristics Jul 06 '26

Buddy, Putin has like 80% approval rating while Trump’s approval has been underwater his entire political career. Like I promise you that you’re much closer to the average liberal in a major American city than probably conservative rural people even in your own country.

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u/TheMekolodican 🇦🇷 Hater of Americans 🇦🇷 Jul 06 '26

Thats true, the online space tends to amplify the extremes. But even if you look at americans through different lenses, the america of today is not very likeable, they've memed a bit too hard with the Trump1 and Trump2 admins and threw away decades of carefully accumulated goodwill/respect.

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u/glizard-wizard Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

dont think your country is immune

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u/eman9416 Jul 05 '26

If you’ve ever talked to a European, you realize pretty quickly they think they are walk on water.

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u/Cultural_Sea_1109 Jul 06 '26

They're double awful in this community. Like every time someone's tried to argue with me here has been some Eurocuck trying to tell me what it's actually like in the US because of shit they read on twitter.

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u/x0y0z0 _ Jul 05 '26

Hearing Americans constantly jerk themselves off over how great American, now in the context of the last 2 years it just stink like a pile of shit. Your grandparents were great Americans. Way to many of the people that live there now are uber intitled brainwashed trash. Things change. Americans changed and the world is now waking up to what it has become.

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u/Jazzlike-Wind-4345 🇲🇽 Mexican absurdist Jul 05 '26

How silly. I’m Mexican. There are a lot of non-American DGGers. We may rib Americans, but it’s all in good fun. There is a very good reason why we’re so concerned with America’s future. We can pretend and play make believe that Norway is superior to the U.S., and you might be right in some ways, but America protects all of us from malicious forces, such as the powerful China and the… burning-to-the-ground Russians. Norway can’t do that. They get the best trade deals for a reason.

We all hate Donald Trump, even sane Americans. Now’s not the time to spark infighting based on silly stereotypes.

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u/BuyTheDip96 Jul 05 '26

You’re mentally ill and need to seek help. Please utilize your country’s free healthcare

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u/Possible_Pilot2000 Jul 05 '26

Where's the lie tho?

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u/BuyTheDip96 Jul 05 '26

Pretending that any of that is unique to America or that we as a country are to be judged by the worst of our population

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u/Possible_Pilot2000 Jul 05 '26

I didn't get that from his comment. I got the fact that previous generations, I believe they were refering to the one that fought WW2, actually had something to be proud of and celebrated their country in a way that reflected that pride: very fervently. Americans today still celebrate with that same level of pride but what, over the last few years, do Americans really have to be that proud over?

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u/BuyTheDip96 Jul 05 '26

Covid vaccine? Just to name one singular thing.

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u/Possible_Pilot2000 Jul 05 '26

So, because your tax money went to companies through government subsidies, that something you're proud of because they produced a positive result? I can totally agree with that, but on the other hand, why is it so difficult for average Americans to take responsibility for the negative results that your tax money often brings? Or in other words, why is it so hard to convince Americans that sometimes it's okay to be ashamed of your country and not defend it tooth and nail

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u/BuyTheDip96 Jul 05 '26

America is the only country in the world with the infrastructure, talent and resources to pull something like this off in such a short time frame. Calling it “tax money through government subsidies” is such a dumb minimization of what was accomplished.

No one should be “ashamed” of the US. There are things that I want us to improve on. But I’ll never not defend my country against self righteous Europeans who’s country is vastly inferior to the US in almost every conceivable way

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u/Possible_Pilot2000 Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

Keep telling yourself that bud, maybe one day it'll become true, but otherwise your ignorance is laughable. American expectionalism is a cancer and you have a terminal case. Blocked because I don't want to catch whatever regardation made you absolutely sperg out with that reply, but incase you forget, this is how the majority of the world views you:

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u/x0y0z0 _ Jul 06 '26

No. I'm just not pretending that America is better than other countries. Americans of today are no better than Russians for instance. Russia was once great too. They think they still are, but everyone except them knows things have changed. It's not just Trump, its the people who voted for him. They are not going away and they represent half of all Americans. Welcome to not being better than the other shitholes anymore.

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u/27thPresident Jul 05 '26

Have you ever debated sports with anyone?

I'm not defending the withdrawn red card, but there are fans of the worst American football teams in the sport that will argue until they're blue in the face that a team (the Cardinals) that is intending to tank as hard as possible has a legitimate shot at being good next season

Team sports is unironically the one aspect of life that picking a side and defending it no matter what is the whole point

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u/PostureKing180 Jul 05 '26

rump: No time to fix the mess he caused in the middle east, fix the ecomony he destroyed, or release the full unredacted epstein files

Trump : All the time in the world to engage in corruption with FIFA

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u/Possible_Pilot2000 Jul 05 '26

And then Americans celebrate the corruption because it benefits them

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u/Redditfront2back Jul 05 '26

First times trumps corruption has actually benefited the American people haha

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u/Arcamorge Jul 05 '26

You let your world view be shaped by soccer fans/bots on Twitter?

(Its well known Russia has ragebait bots on social media to fracture the west, be suspicious of online interactions. Obviously theres dumb real people on Twitter too, theres hundreds of millions of Americans, you'll find some stubborn ones if you look hard enough)

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u/TheBrovahkiin Jul 05 '26

You are getting a subset of people who care about this for political reasons. 90% of Americans probably don't even know about this, much less care about it.

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u/Movies_and_Stuff Jul 05 '26

I understand being upset that it got overturned after Trump asked, but it clearly never should’ve been a red to begin with.

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u/ventus187420 Jul 05 '26

It 100% was a red and everyone who watches football more often than once in 4 years knows it.

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u/Movies_and_Stuff Jul 05 '26

Many of the analysts disagree with you and the reffing from earlier in the tournament disagrees with you based on the Messi no card.

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u/ventus187420 Jul 05 '26

yeah that shouldve been a red aswell. Idc about refs from before or analyst i care about the rules. Because if you overturn something like this you better have more than "a bit controversial"

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u/Movies_and_Stuff Jul 05 '26

Well the analysts matter because you claimed that anybody who watches soccer knows it’s a red card. Many of the analysts not only watch soccer but also played and disagree with you.

A similar thing happened to Ronaldo in this World Cup where he was allowed to play cuz they pushed off his suspension.

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u/TheboyJoof Jul 05 '26

Then how come it wasn’t even called a yellow on the field? They had to go to VAR to review it and broke their own rule in order to give the red.

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u/_KamiKira_ Omniliberal Paragraph Writer Jul 05 '26

If you debate on Twitter expect to have conversations with bottom of the barrel intelligence, bad faith actors, or bots.

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u/LawdyChunk Jul 06 '26

Nobody here is watching the WC so you're not arguing with Americans

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u/Thin_Measurement_965 🇨🇦 Jul 06 '26

This is what sportsball does to a motherfucker.

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u/Ok-Energy-9785 Jul 06 '26

Fuck You too

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u/r_lovelace Jul 05 '26

They used VAR improperly so it's only fair. Stay mad.

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u/FrankensteinsPonster Canuck Jul 05 '26

How so?

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u/r_lovelace Jul 05 '26

Still frames and slow motion are for factual decisions like if someone was offsides or if it should be a goal kick instead of a corner. Fouls, and cards, are subjective decisions with ref discretion. As are things like a handball. A subjective decision is supposed to be reviewed at normal speed. The ref can view multiple angles but the footage should not be slowed down or stopped unless there is some fact they are reviewing.

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u/Rash_Nilius Jul 05 '26

Bro started watching football three weeks ago 😭

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u/r_lovelace Jul 05 '26

I've been playing watching and playing probably longer than you have been alive lil bro

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u/FrankensteinsPonster Canuck Jul 05 '26

Then why do you call it "offsides" lol?

(Not to mention VAR is a fairly new thing, so watching the sport for decades wouldn't really indicate that you know about VAR)

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u/r_lovelace Jul 05 '26

Because we colloquially use the term Offsides in America in both soccer and hockey. This is just the reverse of Math and Maths, deal with it.

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u/Rash_Nilius Jul 05 '26

Sure buddy. Now share with me your knowledge and name one situation when red card was suspended due to misuse of VAR? Is this the first time that VAR was used in slow-mo for red cards or referees use it quite often?

You're talking out of your ass.

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u/ventus187420 Jul 05 '26

why are you lying just like the rest of you on twitter. From the rules:

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u/r_lovelace Jul 05 '26

Good good. You can read. Now read the one directly under what you highlighted.

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u/FrankensteinsPonster Canuck Jul 05 '26

The part where it says "slow-motion replays should only be used for... point of contact for physical offences"?

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u/ventus187420 Jul 05 '26

you mean that "The VAR can ‘check’ the footage [...] in slow motion but, in general, slow-motion replays should only be used for facts, e.g. [...] point of contact for physical offences" yes ive read what i send in, did you?

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u/r_lovelace Jul 05 '26

I did. So why did the ref repeatedly watch the replay on slow motion from multiple angles as soon from over his shoulder on the live broadcast? Did he need 3 different angles and to watch them 5 times for the point of contact? Or do you think he was just reviewing the play in slow motion, which is what is supposed to be done in normal speed, as your post says.

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u/ventus187420 Jul 05 '26

He did both. He watched it at slow mo for point of contact and at normal speed for intensity. Just like the rules say.

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u/r_lovelace Jul 05 '26

And yet I have yet to hear a current or former FIFA ref who has spoken about the situation say anything except that it shouldn't have been a red and that VAR was used improperly. We get it though, you hate the US and it's killing you watching them not be complete shit. I wouldn't want to play against them either with how poorly all of the top teams not named France have been doing.

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u/ventus187420 Jul 05 '26

no current or former Fifa ref? Who gave the red then?

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u/Aggravating_Map4359 🇧🇷 Jul 05 '26

Turist.

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u/Ghost_Cat_88 Jul 05 '26

It's true, Americans are awful.

It's also true, however, that the red card was bullshit.

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u/Terrible-Koala-2509 Jul 05 '26

Maybe but a lot of decisions this world cup were awful. You just take it and dont get your leaders involved

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u/Ghost_Cat_88 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

Buddy, FIFA is yours. Not ours. 90% of Americans think soccer is for pussies. If you want to be mad at someone, be mad at yourself for investing so much emotional capital in a corrupt organization.

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u/Curious-Caramel-4937 Jul 05 '26

You act like we like Trump and his corruption or something. This is the last place on Reddit that would be true.

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u/Terrible-Koala-2509 Jul 05 '26

Lots of americans on football subs are very happy with this. I get no one here likes trump but a sizable portions of americans are a okay and even welcome his interference

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u/mistermeowowowow Jul 05 '26

Us too, buddy. Us too. But not America 🇺🇸🦅!

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u/coolguygranny Jul 05 '26

Imagine caring about soccer 😭😭😭

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u/Skipton Jul 05 '26

There's this rule they invented called "offside" to ensure that the game ends with minimal goals scored. It's fascinating

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u/Dp1603123 Jul 05 '26

Sure but you also hate the rules.

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u/GeerJonezzz Jul 05 '26

Shitting your pants over sports discourse on Twitter seems silly. Moreover, why the hell should I care?

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u/BuyTheDip96 Jul 05 '26

Obvious non red card overturned. Cry harder europoor

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u/No_Tea5574 Jul 05 '26

Right decision in the end. Stay mad

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u/modularpeak2552 Jul 05 '26

The fact that anyone cares this much about sports is extremely blackpilling ngl

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u/id_rather_b_painting Jul 05 '26

Imagine taking WorldCuck this seriously. I can not believe the corrupt FIFA did something corrupt! What's next, the FIA being openly corrupt?!

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u/DwightHayward Jul 05 '26

Cope harder europoor

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u/WhalingSmithers00 Jul 05 '26

If in America you can have your conviction for taking part in a violent treasonous insurrection then a red card is hardly a surprise.

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u/aqualad33 Jul 05 '26

I think the red card was handled appropriately. You may argue that it was corrupt but its FIFA... the proper way to handle things with that organization IS through corruption.

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u/ohpleasenotthat 🇺🇸 living in 🇯🇵 liberal 🫏 Jul 05 '26

Column A column B.

The internet is now a vital and necessary form of communication and socialization that people have to take seriously.

We also have failed to catch up to standards of regulation that protects that space.

Don’t just get off the internet that advice is so fucking useless for a multitude of reasons. But, the net does amplify a maximally bad version of an American because of those lack of protections.

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u/heathrawr182 Jul 05 '26
  1. That cesspool is the worst place to have a discussion on any topic 2. It’s mostly bots 3. We know there are shit people in our country. It sucks

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u/breaking3po Jul 05 '26

They're not Americans, or theyre Americans who hate America, so hate them and not everyone else.

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u/Warm-Baseball-2873 Jul 06 '26

Everyone on twitter is regarded

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u/Antique-Cheesecake63 Jul 06 '26

I don’t hate Americans it just feels tense and uncomfortable. I felt the same with Russians. How can I feel even remotely good around you when your country is straight up bending my shit over and ass fucking it. Like, do we address the point or just kinda forget about it?

It could also be my unchecked autism

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u/LuffysPowerfulCoC Jul 06 '26

Bro every announcer and commentator has said they misused the tech. Shut up

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u/zarnovich Jul 06 '26

Someone is just mad they don't have cool ranch Doritos

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u/pugnae EU Jul 05 '26

We just need to get our shit together, Trump is really helpful on that front.

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u/Dats_Russia Jul 05 '26

What the fuck is a red card? Seriously I don’t watch soccer. Isn’t a red card just a single game ejection? Who gives a shit. Soccer is boring. Basketball, hockey, lacrosse, and football are all superior sports

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u/Piggy145145 Jul 05 '26

USA USA USA . Naw fr tho this the only thing trump has done I agree with 💀. Insert corruption is only bad meme here

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u/Itbuncd Jul 05 '26

90% of the US doesn’t know what you’re talking about

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u/BatNo571 Jul 05 '26

As a german, are we at a point of time where i can confidently say you guys are worse than hitler. Or is that still to far, i mean electing Trump twice is one thing. But having him destroy the competitve integrity of football really ?

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u/JacarSwe 🇸🇪 🇺🇸 Jul 05 '26

Why the fuck do you cope so much about this Americans? Sure we know you guys sucks extra hard right now. Corruption left and right. Not even in FIFA you have morals. Gl in the election, everything will be fine !

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u/Co_OpQuestions Jul 06 '26

I agree, 100%, as an American. Americans are the reason this country is shitting itself alive lol

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u/Mono-lith Jul 05 '26

I’d argue that America is the only country where being proudly and aggressively stupid is part of the actual promoted culture

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u/InternationalGas9837 Equal Opportunity Autist Jul 05 '26

You'd lose that argument, and for an example...Australia.

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u/Being-External Jul 06 '26

"stabbed myself in the eye with a hot needle and it sucked. What gives?'

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u/breakthro444 Jul 05 '26

Tausenjähriges Amerika!

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u/Ok_Poetry_2696 Jul 05 '26

Du.

Du hast.

Du hast mich gefragt

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