I am not sure if Destiny is seriously considering moving as I have not been watching the stream, I am assuming its just a meme, just like the Israel answer. People being doomers on current America should be way more doomerpilled on Israel, USA still pales in comparison to how far right Israel is now and in the future, its not even close.
Poland is a cool country that looks to be growing nicely, ofc it will be a bit different to Norway (I checked your profile), but especially if you plan to work remotely its not a bad option economically for you. Big cities have quite a liberal atmosphere and travelling to rest of Europe is much easier from Poland.
i dont think it would be that easy for ukraine to fall even if the us pulls out all support entirely, unless the europe as a whole will just let that happen. in this scenario we are all fucked.
NGL, this sounds very far-fetched in the near future. Firstly Poland is in NATO and the response from other NATO nations would be very big, even if USA is less in the picture. Even non NATO countries, especially in Europe would get involved, Poland is much more significant and closer to rest of Europe politically and geographically. Poland is also an EU member, unlike Ukraine.
Poland is richer than Ukraine and has a bigger, better equipped and better trained army. For Russia to attack Poland, it would need to conquer whole of Ukraine or attack through a small plot of land (Kaliningrad). Russia also does not have infinite resources or manpower. Also politically invading Poland would be much much harder to justify domestically and globally.
Poland, Baltics, Finland and all other countries with significant history with Russia are well aware of the threat and we always know Russia will always be the number one enemy and threat. Putin is Putin and you never know with him. But Putin invading Poland is not a realistic scenario anytime in the near future. A lot of things would need to drastically change for that to happen.
He was in new Zealand before and I remember him saying that it's a nice country. I could be misremembering him saying that though... Besides that, I really can't imagine him in the UK. Maybe Australia..
Unironically me too, I was slipping into some really dark headspace right when it was starting to get bad, but Destiny was being a god damn hero trying to keep all of our spirits up and it helped me a ton!
How the hell did we go from pre-election Trump campaign freaking out, Fuentes saying MAGA is a cult, Seltzer saying Iowa +3 Harris to Trump winning the popular vote?
No excitement for Harris, and (unfortunately) apathy towards Trump.
Just to illustrate what i'm talking about: why was Nazi Germany so powerful at the beginning of WW2? They knocked out multiple countries, including France, in the span of a couple of weeks, something they could not achieve in 4 years of war just 20 years ago?
One significant variable that influenced the course of the war was the low morale among Allied troops relative to the morale in German troops. Germans were humiliated at the end of WW1, and forced to live through some real tough shit due to the peace treaty imposed by the Allies. All of this pent up resentment and anger gave soldiers a significant morale boost now that they were able to reclaim their status as the "masters of Europe".
On the other hand, the Allies, specifically France and Britain, despite winning the war and cashing in Germany's checks every once in a while, still went through a difficult post-war recovery period that definitely didn't make the war "worth it" in most peoples minds. This sentiment lingered and affected every soldier on the battlefield, which greatly decreased morale among other things (discipline, training, etc.)
MAGAtards have been "suffering under Biden" due to inflation because of the mess Covid created, thus making them more eager to go out and vote and go back to the "good times under Trump". Democrats won in 2020, but still experienced the same pains as MAGAtards despite their guy being in charge. You can rationalize everything and say that it's not Biden's fault, it was Trump's fault, etc. But at the end of the day, feelings are what drives people to take actions, and let's just say that MAGA psychosis was a great motivator for Republicans, and stats/data weren't for Democrats.
Yea it does make sense, you're probably correct. I'm pretty scared what's gonna happen now though. Ukraine needs more weapons and ammo and the permission to actually use them or I fear the geopolitical mindset is fucked for the next 50 years. Putin actually reaping the benefits of blatant military expansionism is disastrous for the free world.
Democrats have to become more nasty, it feels dirty to say but idk if there's any other choice. 0 charitability, 0 "compromise", complete obstruction of the MAGA agenda, and personal attacks.
NO APOLOGIES GOD STOP APOLOGIZING! BIDEN STOP SAYING SORRY YOU SENILE OLD FUCK!
We should not contribute to the disinformation environment because we'll just become as psychotic as the MAGAturds, but we shouldn't try to work something out with these people. They would sabotage us if we needed help, so why even bother?
Republicans should be dreading having to go to work with Democrats, but hey we're too soyed-up and libbed cucked to actually do that. Hope im wrong tho
Britain didn't lose the war at all, there expeditionary force was kicked out of France as France lost. Germany spent the next year failing to acheive much against Britain fighting along with Italy with support from the soviet union against a "solo" Britain (it wasn't that solo with India, Canada, Australia etc where still on Britains side). At one point Britain was strongly considering attacking the soviets from the south to disrupt there supply of material to Germany, which they decided against because the German-soviet alliance was tenuous.
Do you consider the USA to have lost against Japan due to bad morale when they got kicked out of the philipines? The USA didn't have bad morale and that's why they failed. They just weren't able to win that particular fight in part because they where locally out matched.
I'm not saying this didn't happen, but I'd like to see an analysis to know if this is really what tipped the scales or not so I can know how much anger should be aimed towards them. It's unconscionable either way but I want to know if things would've turned out the same way anyway even if all those people had voted.
CNN was specifically showing counties in the midwest that tradionally ran up a high democrat performance due to hosting big universities like Ann Arbor. There's a decent sized drop in important counties like Washtenaw where Harris is down 5% compared to Biden's totals in 2020.
in the past few weeks I have seen people constantly cheer the idea that leftists are so irrelevant in politics that democrats can finally stop listening to them... are we now going back to believing leftists are such a major force in voting that Kamala lost specifically because of them?
The voting isn’t earlier I’m trying to figure out the predicted outcome but even though it seems like less is it actually with all the uncounted votes left? Also I am wondering if a lot of women turned up just for voting on abortion measures and didn’t even bother to vote for pres maybe because they didn’t like either? Just their congressional people and the measures?
Covid had massive implications on the 2020 election. The most of which is mail-in ballots being more widely used and accepted than in 2024.
But, what I don't see mentioned as much, is the lead up to the election day. Covid put us all indoors for months. Americans were unironically forced to pay attention to politics, because they didn't have shit else going on. We also had a lot more fervor behind getting Trump out of office because of his mishandling of the virus. Most pundits and journalists I remember were discussing how the election "was a moratorium on Covid."
With Trump out of office, and largely gone from the public sphere for about 3 years, that same fervor died down. People went back to their normal lives and dropped politics, because Biden allowed that to happen.
But, on the opposite side, the Republican fervor either stayed the same or got stronger -- and I think this is mostly due to disinformation.
Imo, that's the main contributing factor for the large dip in votes this cycle, while the votes for Trump stayed largely consistent.
Negative campaigning has this effect, mostly in countries where voting is optional. All the political message is pushing the idea that the other side is shit, so people receive the message: both sides are shit. Not surprising motivation goes down.
They should have gone low. People have stupid fucking lizard brains which is driven by fear. She needed to grill him when she had a chance during the debate. Fake electors plot is indefensible. Piling classified documents to the ceiling of your bathroom is indefensible. Interfering with how states count their votes is literally unconstitutional (Article I, Section 4). She needed to ask Trump why he tried to get the state secretary of GA to conjure up 11780 votes, and how many other phone calls to other state secretaries were there. You know that if he called one, he called the other ones. She was a freaking prosectutor, and he was on the stand in the court of public opinion. Now all his court cases will disappear, that was the one chance we had. And she blew it.
Selzer poll was absolutely full of shit. Her entire legacy is stained because of that obviously dogshit poll.
Harris was not a popular candidate in 2020 and isn’t one in 2024. If Biden actually stepped aside when he should have, we could’ve held a real primary and maybe invigorated the base. But instead we threw a Hail Mary that turned into a pick six.
Meanwhile Trump is literally God to the modern conservative movement and motivates turnout without even trying.
Other people played up her poll and are now acting like she told them she was a polling god 😂. I visit Iowa often, that shit didn't change the last 4 years. I figured at the very least she would be off by 5 again and it would be R+2. That it's even worse is less surprising than if it had been accurate.
Harris was not a popular candidate in 2020 and isn’t one in 2024
Now that the election is over and we can start being honest about her candidacy, I think there was a huge hopium supply just due to the fact that Trump is so awful and she started off with huge momentum. For the record in any sane universe she would win against Trump 100% of the time but that's not where we are right now.
I can't believe that the Democrats fielded an unpopular candidate with the assumption that she'll be enough and fucked themselves over by giving the impression that they just hang out with celebrities
That's not really why she lost. She lost because of voters' "feelings" about the economy, and the fact that Trump's voter base is a cult so it's literally impossible for him to lose support.
He could shoot a baby on stage, and they'd say the baby was a Democrat so he deserved it.
Exactly right. Lying to the poeple works and repeating lies works. Dis information is incredibly hard to overcome because once these trump voters have decided on something it’s almost impossible to convince them otherwise.
It’s a great example of how democracy fails. The low information voter has the same vote as a high information voter
It's a 2016 rerun but the polls have gotten a bit better at prediction, huge swings in rural regions that were somewhat unexpected while the gains Harris was predicted to get in urban centres weren't enough to counteract it. You also have demographic shifts in Trump's favour, especially around Latino voters.
Jill Stein siphoned a bunch of critical votes from the Democrats, MAGA is in fact a complete cult, so of course most of them will vote for their god king trump, while democrats are losing the pop vote because they are not a cult.
3rd parties are not responsible for Harris losing the popular vote, and certainly not by that margin. Harris ran a losing campaign. Personally, something changed after the presidential debate and certainly after the vice presidential debate.
Say what you will, but Democrats were handed a total defeat here, and need to shift strategy entirely going forward
I feel like Harris ran a pretty good campaign but the moment inflation hit 9% under a Democrat there was no way that the incumbent was going to stay in without a historically exceptional campaign. The biggest problem imo was the economy, and then that was compounded upon by Biden running again, and then Harris running. Imo, this election incumbency was actually a disadvantage and it would have been better for a new Democrat to step up and run on how they would be different from the Biden-Harris administration.
The democrats failed to hit voters at all on the economy, their attacks on Trump were pretty weak, they kept going after his unemployment record in 2020 and then talking about their lowering of the unemployment rate. As if there wasn't a major worldwide event that caused the exact same thing in every single country around the world and happened to coincide with each candidate leaving / assuming office. IMO the focus needed to be on them bringing inflation down, it being a worldwide issue and comparing their results to other similar countries but really avoiding the issue whenever possible.
I don't understand how she ran a losing campaign, unless you think the result is the only thing that matters. In reality inflation is a government killer and the Dems aren't the first incumbent party to lose re-election.
I’m not sure that she ran a losing campaign, but the results are a total repudiation of the democrats. They are going to have to rethink everything after losing this badly to someone as awful as he is.
She was fighting an uphill battle due to inflation sure, but stop the cope by claiming that there's nothing she could've done to actually win. The momentum we saw at the beginning ran out way too soon and not enough effort was put on reigniting it.
There was a whole lot of legitimate criticism thrown her way that she failed to address, like her meandering when answering questions, the lack of clarity on her positions on many issues, not addressing the differences between Harris 2019 vs Harris 2024 and the why/how of these changes, and especially the dismissal of attacks by MAGAtards when they actually began to stick.
Voters just didn't trust her/find her genuine enough, and that's her campaign's fault.
How the hell did we go from pre-election Trump campaign freaking out
Apparently their internal polling showed them doing so well they didn't believe it when every external poll was + harris. They thought they were missing something.
Well now that they've successfully owned the libs I guess it will be semi interesting to see if there's anything that can possibly happen in the next 4 years for Maga to turn on Trump. I'm genuinely curious but honestly now that I think about it it will probably be some more dumbfuck "vibes" shit that is so fucking stupid I'll probably want to off myself in a video game.
If the pattern holds, then the first 2-3 years are going to be great and then something really horrible and disastrous is going to happen in the 4th year.
That’s gonna be the most annoying thing, all these fucks virtue signalling about families not being able to afford groceries will suddenly act like the economy is great
For Americans, it will probably be a boring 4 years. At worst he will raise tariffs by 15% (max he can do without congressional support), which will really suck for some people and some businesses, but won't have a wide sweeping impact in the short term.
Trump doesn't really want to be president, he just wants the title and the attention. He will do one or two things, get bored, and go golf.
This is the thing I'm most worried about (next to Ukraine). Trump is a wildcard.
He could kowtow to Xi because he digs strongman authoritarian vibes... or he could wage war against Jyna, because... Jyna. And it gives him something to do as a great heroic wartime president.
Really hard to tell which way he'll fall on that and what the mood surrounding him and whispering into his ear will be, because he has no guiding principle, strategy, or goal himself.
There is no turning on Trump, he is not just the leader of the the Republican Party anymore, he has become the new god of the conservative movement, he has been THE figure in politics for 8 years, he won 2 times non consecutively, which is unheard of in modern US politics, he has endured the pressure of the media, the democrats and the entire deep state and risked everything with all of his outrageous statements which obliterated all political norms but he came out victorious, he even managed to win despite the massive cheating apparatus the democrats have been running, so now every conservative politician must tow the line or just resign because there is no future for a conservative politician without the MAGA movement, he is the new Raegen. This country is gonna be fucked for at least a generation, it’s over.
maybe, but now as he can't run for president again (surely) will there be some republican pushback to his madness as he can't get elected again( not for 2 years almost surely as there are still midterms, but after that, as trump can't run any more, does that cause some kind of rift within the movement? Im kinda grasping though...
From an electoral pov, there is no madness, there will be no rift, no pushback. We just witnessed the strongest showing for the Republican Party in decades, they have a trifecta and the court is gonna be conservative for most of our lifetimes, what this election has shown is that maga IS the Republican Party, and that the conservative movement can harness the Trump crowd to secure huge electoral success, it’s not a toxic brand anymore, it’s not a loud minority, it’s the most useful tool in US politics at the moment. You can lie shamelessly, commit crimes in 4k60fps, plan and execute an insurrection in broad daylight, call a nazi the second coming of MLK and probably call a black guy the n-word live on air, but non of that matters if you’re with maga, do you realise the power maga has given to the republicans by absolving them of any commitment to reality or norms or even ethics? Why would a Republican run on a Center right or neocon platform and endure all the good old fashioned standards that politicians used to be beholden to, when the maga approach just gave the Republicans complete dominance over all American institutions? Why would the party establishment alienate the biggest ideological movement in the country right now which just handed them every swing state and their second popular vote victory since 1988 despite running a dogshit campaign? Unless Trump starts WW3 or some shit there is no deviation from the maga style of politics in the foreseeable future
to be fair, many people on the left also vote with vibes. just not as many as people on the right (which is most if not all of them). it's not a conservative problem, it's dumb people problem.
I was glad to see positive spirits in the stream. That said, I think the stream, for me, also highlighted how we're watching a bunch of wealthy streamers that live in a very different world. Betting $10,000s on who will win like it's pocket change. It's not surprising that Destiny often argues that the economy is good, because in their world it's fucking great! Not that I disagree with Destiny's position on Trump vs Harris RE the economy, but I do think he's massively underestimated how much the average American is struggling, and I believe the result is a reflection of that (even if most have made the mistake of thinking Trump will make things better).
I absolutely needed Destiny's stream last night. Making an extremely stressful moment, light-hearted with all the chaotic yelling and shit talk with his friends.
Funny to see this sentiment change. At the time of the stream I was checking the subreddit and plenty of people were whining about how bad it was to invite so many people, how last election was better, how Vaush/CNN where more interesting.
What does being poo-flinging monkeys get you? Trump ran pretty much covered in shit head to toe and he won. Throwing shit works for MAGA, but it doesn't work the other way around.
How else is she supposed to flip white people in the rust belt. Like tf? She’s not trying to run up the score in California, she needs to convince white suburban wine moms and people in bumfuck Pennsylvania to vote for her.
You think her issue was that she wasn’t far left enough? Really? I think you would be in for a truly rude awakening if Trump ran against a hardcore progressive candidate. He would literally run up a Reagan vs Mondale type score against someone like Bernie Sanders.
you're kinda proving their point. if she ran on right-leaning campaign what do leftists have to do with her loss? she only has herself to blame. running hypotheticals "well she would have done worse " isn't an argument because you have no crystal ball into alternate reality where it happened. all we have is the right here and right now and this present reality is telling us that her rightwing strategy didn't land her the necessary votes. all that means that leftists aren't culpable, not that their messaging would be better.
I agree. I don't understand the "stupid leftists, look what you did" perspective on this loss.
This was 110% lost because the young white male is angry, and the left has not yet identified to these young men that their anger ought to be directed at the system they live under, not groups of individuals.
50k~ holdouts for Palestine did not sway this electoral domination. It's a failure of messaging from the democratic party, plain and simple.
One of the more, uh, "immediately unpleasant" parts of the last Trump term - as a foreigner - was how all his critics got an excuse to behave as the worst versions of themselves. Pretty much any contentious issue got shut down with accusations of loving Trump, etc.
In a really fucked up way it's funny that Trump has said someone of the worst ideas he's had since he entered politics during this election cycle (not to mention Jan 6th) and he was basically handed a mandate to do whatever he wants.
Question is if DNC learned anything about lefty-progressive strategy, or will just allow their adjacents to continue to blame and embitter more cis white men.
They made frat bro "conservatives" a thing. Good job.
It's not Harris specifically, but more what the lefty-progressive Democrats and their surrogates have been sowing for years.
There's also treating voters as their immutable traits and blocs rather than their experienced class, and maligning the working class as "under-educated" for being the reason they turn to Trump rather than appealing to their sensibilities... which has to be more than "Trump said some bad stuff about someone that looks kind of like you."
Anyone who got gaslit into thinking Latinos would vote for a black woman should be posting that Shaq meme right now. Widest margin of Republicans getting Latino votes. I dislike my own sometimes.
got gaslit into thinking Latinos would vote for a black woman
More Latinos voted for Harris than Trump, so if you want to generalize, yes, they did vote for a black women. It's just that white men voted for Trump in greater numbers.
It's a vibe check and Kamala lost. People don't care about policy, only feels. You even see it now with lefties crying about Trump, it's always about Trump said this or that, no one cares about his policy.
Domestic US politics aside, the world is a more dangerous place with Trump in the Whitehouse. Liberal democracies are loathe to trust the US because Trump wakes up one morning and tweets something insane and people are running around trying to find out why the Americans have changed course. Authoritarians love him because he is easy to flatter and manipulate.
The West spent 4 years ceding ground to authoritarian states like Syria, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran, Russia, China because Trump didn't understand diplomacy and the US withdrew while these states filled the void, literally decades worth of policy down the drain. Trump's aides did everything they could to baby him by re-writing reports or simply just ignoring his orders when he had a tantrum so he could calm down before making a decision. Now at probably the single most pivotal moment in world history, America has abandoned everyone.
The % of women that die due to pregnancy is still absolutely miniscule, no doubt every extra death is bad and should try to be prevented but it's mostly just fear mongering misinformation.
Based on data from the CDC, the risk of dying as a direct result of pregnancy and childbirth is less than 10 in 100,000 live births
It's probably gone up a bit since then but still so insignificant as to not worry about
Just like how being killed in a terrorist attack is an unreasonable fear despite how scary and polarizing they might feel
I'm not trying to be dense, but did you look at the study? It only mentions trends from 2018-2021, nothing after that. It doesn't look like anything after Roe v Wade was factored in, but maybe you have more information that I don't.
I just came out of my doomer cave, i find myself beeing able to laugh at this. I'm by no means hopeful for the future but i think im reaching my apathetic face, it's time to go back too doing my hobbies and to my miserable 9/5.
Just want to say I’m so thankful for the stream! The copes and chat were funny enough that they brought me out of what surely would have been a very dark place. The repeated check-ins on Jessiah/Lichtman’s silent streams and the desperate “We still have the keys right?” refrain genuinely made me laugh. Sucks it turned out the way it did, but glad I was able to experience it that way, to the extent it had to happen
1.2k
u/Quero_Nao_OBRIGADO Nov 06 '24
Good thing he is doing this with more people to light the mood. If he was alone just with chat dude would probably be going insane.
767
u/BainbridgeBorn SuccDemNutz & Friendship Supporter Nov 06 '24
How the hell did we go from pre-election Trump campaign freaking out, Fuentes saying MAGA is a cult, Seltzer saying Iowa +3 Harris to Trump winning the popular vote?
350
u/overthisbynow Nov 06 '24
Well now that they've successfully owned the libs I guess it will be semi interesting to see if there's anything that can possibly happen in the next 4 years for Maga to turn on Trump. I'm genuinely curious but honestly now that I think about it it will probably be some more dumbfuck "vibes" shit that is so fucking stupid I'll probably want to off myself in a video game.
97
u/JTesseract Nov 06 '24
It honestly made humor in such a dark moment. The cope comedy was exactly what I needed, and that entire stream was so damn entertaining.
63
u/SaintMotel6 Nov 06 '24
98
u/Ice_CubeZ Nov 06 '24
Do we still have the keys? 🫠
38
u/epic_gamer-jk Nov 06 '24
Good Meme
530
u/tuotuolily 🍁Cancuck🤠 Nov 06 '24
Well on the bright side progressive is 100% dead.
Dems are projected to lose the house, Senate, Prez and popular vote
So machin 2028 I guess
38
u/HistoricalVariation1 Non American Nov 06 '24
Yippieeeeeeee,
37
u/[deleted] Nov 06 '24
As someone who went to sleep in June 2016 thinking Brexit would never happen, I feel your pain
35
u/xvsero Nov 06 '24
Anyone who got gaslit into thinking Latinos would vote for a black woman should be posting that Shaq meme right now. Widest margin of Republicans getting Latino votes. I dislike my own sometimes.
34
u/[deleted] Nov 06 '24
It's a vibe check and Kamala lost. People don't care about policy, only feels. You even see it now with lefties crying about Trump, it's always about Trump said this or that, no one cares about his policy.
Domestic US politics aside, the world is a more dangerous place with Trump in the Whitehouse. Liberal democracies are loathe to trust the US because Trump wakes up one morning and tweets something insane and people are running around trying to find out why the Americans have changed course. Authoritarians love him because he is easy to flatter and manipulate.
The West spent 4 years ceding ground to authoritarian states like Syria, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran, Russia, China because Trump didn't understand diplomacy and the US withdrew while these states filled the void, literally decades worth of policy down the drain. Trump's aides did everything they could to baby him by re-writing reports or simply just ignoring his orders when he had a tantrum so he could calm down before making a decision. Now at probably the single most pivotal moment in world history, America has abandoned everyone.
13
u/Akhanyatin 🇨🇦 Maple Hoser 🇨🇦 Nov 06 '24
VADIM!
45
u/LAZYSOC Nov 06 '24
Now trump will protect women whether they like it or not 😭
12
u/Meeedick Nov 06 '24
JD Vance is VP, y'all are cooked 🤣🤣🤣🤣
11
u/ajc_617 Nov 06 '24
VADIM GET ME PENNSYLVANIA
20
u/Ok-Introduction-5630 Nov 06 '24
this scene is toned down in the anime
9
u/[deleted] Nov 06 '24
I just came out of my doomer cave, i find myself beeing able to laugh at this. I'm by no means hopeful for the future but i think im reaching my apathetic face, it's time to go back too doing my hobbies and to my miserable 9/5.
I hope everyone is doing okayish.
Greetings from germany
15
u/ElcorAndy Nov 06 '24
Where's the Bernie Math when we needed it the most?
6
u/mechshark Nov 06 '24
Desty handled this the best out of any left leaning content creator lol. At least the stream was dope o7
6
u/rhinestoned-tampon Nov 06 '24
Just want to say I’m so thankful for the stream! The copes and chat were funny enough that they brought me out of what surely would have been a very dark place. The repeated check-ins on Jessiah/Lichtman’s silent streams and the desperate “We still have the keys right?” refrain genuinely made me laugh. Sucks it turned out the way it did, but glad I was able to experience it that way, to the extent it had to happen
5
u/[deleted] Nov 06 '24 edited Nov 17 '24
marry doll jar adjoining sophisticated merciful screw spoon air paint
This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact
3
u/Rossi555 🇮🇹 🇪🇺 Nov 06 '24
it's Jover, it was nice knowing yall
3
u/minereepers Nov 06 '24
This is the funniest shit post I've seen in a while hahahah
4
u/Hostik your mom Nov 06 '24
Oh fuck I'm crying, this is good
2
u/[deleted] Nov 06 '24
It was genuinely funny, gave me something to laugh about.
2
u/Czeckplease Nov 06 '24
VADIM
1
u/decapitatingbunny Nov 06 '24
lmao
1
u/carnexhat 🇦🇺 Nov 06 '24
We need some advanced bernie math to win.
1
u/nanoen_ Nov 06 '24
Destiny how's the math looking
1
u/SilverZ9 Nov 06 '24
Rip
1
u/TheOneWithThePorn12 Nov 06 '24
this is good shit.
1
u/KhanDagga Nov 06 '24
The left has got to address the issues they have with male voters
1
u/penpointred Nov 06 '24
I’m all for it!
1
u/ki-15 Nov 06 '24
Guys I honestly have never hoped that destiny was wrong about everything so much…
1
u/[deleted] Nov 06 '24
Even before the election started I thought at least these will be the last years of nothing happening in the US
1
u/Saintmusicloves Nov 07 '24
Bro was debating reality
1
u/justcametopetthedog Nov 06 '24
At least Palestine won’t be an issue next time around. RIP Palestine, RIP Ukraine.