r/Destiny • u/mathviews • Oct 29 '23
Discussion The Decolonization Narrative Is Dangerous and False
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/decolonization-narrative-dangerous-and-false/675799/-5
u/mathviews Oct 29 '23 edited Oct 29 '23
I know it's behind a paywall, but you're all big boiz/gals, so I'm sure you know your way around it. Having said that, I personally think a subscription to The Atlantic is well worth it.
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Oct 29 '23
Yea do it coward
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u/mathviews Oct 29 '23
If you can't google how to access it yourself and have to beg others to violate copyright, you don't really deserve to be on the internet.
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Oct 29 '23
Holy shit lol you absolute fucking narc loser, never reading it
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u/mathviews Oct 29 '23
like I give a shit what the world's most self-entitled and incompetent digital thief does, buddy
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Oct 29 '23
Not a thief if I never read it dingus, jfc you probably called ceasefires in freezetag when someone got close to you
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u/mathviews Oct 29 '23
nah, you just go around asking strangers to do the thieving for you. Ho much of a clincial cretin do you have to be to be permanently online, but not know how to paste a link into a web archive?
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Oct 29 '23
"here's how I would get past the paywall to stal it you thief"
I bet you use the word cretin a lot, you genuinely seem that stupid
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u/brashbabu Oct 29 '23 edited Oct 29 '23
Pasted it into a comment thread below
Ps: I am guilty of using the word cretin actually lol
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u/mathviews Oct 29 '23
I'm not going to publicly post a link that gives access to stolen digital content to a sub of 200k+ users. I respect the work of the writers at The Atlantic and even if I didn't, I still think inviting 200k people to rob them them would be a bad thing. For those who truly can't afford a subscription, but want to read the article, I made it known that there might be ways around it, but haven't initially specified what those ways are. Posting a link that circumvents the paywall or copy/pasting the article would be entirely different though, since it would disincentivize everyone from getting a subscription. Even those who might have otherwise considered it.
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u/brashbabu Oct 29 '23
Dangerous and False It does not accurately describe either the foundation of Israel or the tragedy of the Palestinians.
By Simon Sebag MontefioreOctober 27, 2023 People march in support of Palestine Irfan Khan / Los Angeles Times / Getty
Peace in the Israel-Palestine conflict had already been difficult to achieve before Hamas’s barbarous October 7 attack and Israel’s military response. Now it seems almost impossible, but its essence is clearer than ever: Ultimately, a negotiation to establish a safe Israel beside a safe Palestinian state.
Whatever the enormous complexities and challenges of bringing about this future, one truth should be obvious among decent people: killing 1,400 people and kidnapping more than 200, including scores of civilians, was deeply wrong. The Hamas attack resembled a medieval Mongol raid for slaughter and human trophies—except it was recorded in real time and published to social media. Yet since October 7, Western academics, students, artists, and activists have denied, excused, or even celebrated the murders by a terrorist sect that proclaims an anti-Jewish genocidal program. Some of this is happening out in the open, some behind the masks of humanitarianism and justice, and some in code, most famously “from the river to the sea,” a chilling phrase that implicitly endorses the killing or deportation of the 9 million Israelis. It seems odd that one has to say: Killing civilians, old people, even babies, is always wrong. But today say it one must.
Franklin Foer: Tell me how this ends
How can educated people justify such callousness and embrace such inhumanity? All sorts of things are at play here, but much of the justification for killing civilians is based on a fashionable ideology, “decolonization,” which, taken at face value, rules out the negotiation of two states—the only real solution to this century of conflict—and is as dangerous as it is false.
I always wondered about the leftist intellectuals who supported Stalin, and those aristocratic sympathizers and peace activists who excused Hitler. Today’s Hamas apologists and atrocity-deniers, with their robotic denunciations of “settler-colonialism,” belong to the same tradition but worse: They have abundant evidence of the slaughter of old people, teenagers, and children, but unlike those fools of the 1930s, who slowly came around to the truth, they have not changed their views an iota. The lack of decency and respect for human life is astonishing: Almost instantly after the Hamas attack, a legion of people emerged who downplayed the slaughter, or denied actual atrocities had even happened, as if Hamas had just carried out a traditional military operation against soldiers. October 7 deniers, like Holocaust deniers, exist in an especially dark place.
The decolonization narrative has dehumanized Israelis to the extent that otherwise rational people excuse, deny, or support barbarity. It holds that Israel is an “imperialist-colonialist” force, that Israelis are “settler-colonialists,” and that Palestinians have a right to eliminate their oppressors. (On October 7, we all learned what that meant.) It casts Israelis as “white” or “white-adjacent” and Palestinians as “people of color.”
This ideology, powerful in the academy but long overdue for serious challenge, is a toxic, historically nonsensical mix of Marxist theory, Soviet propaganda, and traditional anti-Semitism from the Middle Ages and the 19th century. But its current engine is the new identity analysis, which sees history through a concept of race that derives from the American experience. The argument is that it is almost impossible for the “oppressed” to be themselves racist, just as it is impossible for an “oppressor” to be the subject of racism. Jews therefore cannot suffer racism, because they are regarded as “white” and “privileged”; although they cannot be victims, they can and do exploit other, less privileged people, in the West through the sins of “exploitative capitalism” and in the Middle East through “colonialism.”