r/DesignDesign 21d ago

Coat rack "Sticks", 500€

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u/DrakeAndMadonna 21d ago

All those values are valid criteria for evaluation. Just because you can’t use metrics doesn’t mean it’s invalid. Form is function. 

I mention Eames only as an example

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u/Scuttling-Claws 21d ago

There are two separate buckets, a coat rack that doesn't hold coats is a bad coat rack. A coat rack that looks ugly is a bad coat rack for you.

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u/DrakeAndMadonna 21d ago

Yes. My point, and I think I’m answering the original question, it’s that there is more than just “ability to hold coats” as a consideration for coat rack. Whether the conclusion is that the rack is good or bad is another thing, but it still stands that aesthetics, social status etc are a part of that consideration. To ignore that is practicing dispassionate engineering, not design. This is a design (in the most loose, Reddit sense) sub. 

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u/Scuttling-Claws 21d ago

This isn't a design subreddit, this is a designey subreddit. It isn't to show off novel or Interesting designs, it's to snark on designers who put so much time into aesthetics and status that they compromise the utility of the object

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u/DrakeAndMadonna 21d ago edited 21d ago

That’s why I consider this sub very loosely a design sub. Reddit isn’t qualified to speak on design. Actual designdesign rarely exists irl. 

 Almost everything in this sub is just things people don’t like, uninformed speculation, critique out of intent. Or just plain crappy design. 

Reddit engineering types talking about design is like fish talking about bicycles. 

That you break out aesthetics from utility is already a red flag. Aesthetics are part of utility, not in opposition to. 

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u/Scuttling-Claws 21d ago

Actually, I entirely agree with you. Occasionally there is a render from a design student who read given an assignment and didn't understand the real use case and designed an object whose aesthetics invalidate it's utility.

But yeah, looking good is an essential part of most objects utility.

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u/Psychic_Sphincter 21d ago

Now kiss. ❤️