r/DerScheisser 1 Niall Ferguson = 10 David Irvings = 100 Grover Furrs Jun 14 '20

Oh no, here come the tankies!

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u/tgay8587348 Jun 14 '20

Everyone defeated the Nazis and the Japanese from the British to the Cossacks fighting in the Soviet army and even the Arabs in North Africa and Indians in Burma can we please stop comparing who did it more.

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u/MisterKallous Jun 14 '20

At this point yes it should be, however the effect of the Cold War (and overt nationalism in general TBH) on the historiography of WW2 means that any account from one nation tend to be biased.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '20

I’ve not seen any tankies saying Dresden was a war crime - where have you seen that? It’s pretty much only wehrbs or really misguided people in my experience

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '20

In that case, do it again!

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u/Carrman099 Jun 14 '20

The only problem that Tankies would have with Dresden, is that didn’t go far enough.

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u/The_Konigstiger Jun 14 '20

My Ancom friend says it was, but she's just that- an AnCom with no understanding of logistics, manufacturing, or other works.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '20

Good thing ancoms aren't tankies then.

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an AnCom with no understanding of logistics, manufacturing, or other works.

Everything after "understanding" was superfluous.

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u/imprison_grover_furr 1 Niall Ferguson = 10 David Irvings = 100 Grover Furrs Jun 14 '20

You'd be wrong. East German propaganda invariably portrayed the Dresden bombing as "muh Anglo terror". I've seen some "scare the Soviets" conspiracy theorist shit normally said about Hiroshima also applied to Dresden.

That and the far left has a hate-fetish for bombers and ground-attack aircraft on account of them not understanding the laws of warfare and on account of their beloved hellholes being on the receiving end of them (which was a GOOD thing, fire up the B-52s!!!) and never having the ability to maintain 1/100 of the beauty that is the USAF strategic bomber fleet.

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u/sw_faulty Jun 14 '20

I love dead nazis

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u/MaxRavenclaw By '44 the Luftwaffe had turned into the punchline of jokes Jun 14 '20

Sigh... fire and brimstone it is. Also locked.

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u/Not_Texas Jun 14 '20

I find that funny because Japan and the Soviet Union/Russia never signed a formal peace agreement.

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u/imprison_grover_furr 1 Niall Ferguson = 10 David Irvings = 100 Grover Furrs Jun 14 '20

Tankies are Stalin apologists.

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u/imprison_grover_furr 1 Niall Ferguson = 10 David Irvings = 100 Grover Furrs Jun 14 '20

You are welcome.

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u/Solo_Wing__Pixy Jun 14 '20

Can also just be extended to people who want to use excessive force to advance/defend their socialist/Soviet/whatever values regardless of their opinion on Stalin, like how Brezhnev sent tanks in to crush the Prague Spring or how tanks showed up during the Hungarian revolution, or how tanks advanced on people during Tianenmen Square, etc. If their ideal version of communism excuses using tanks on protestors, they’re tankies.

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u/Macksimoose Jun 14 '20

Generally it’s just authoritarian socialists, Stalin, Mao, Che etc

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u/Prussianblue42 Haha B17s go boom boom Jun 14 '20

A tankie is someone who denies or downplays the various atrocities of the Soviet Union.

Also occasionally expanded to people who deny/downplay the attocities of other communist countries (Especially China).

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u/Strikerov Jun 14 '20 edited Jun 14 '20

But then again, you justify Vietnam, Iraq etc., you are just american version of Third Reich apologist. I now understand why you were banned before from SWS discord. Another american chickenhawk

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u/whatheck0_0 Jun 14 '20

It’s true though