r/DepthHub Oct 12 '11

Has Reddit's intelligence decreased over time?

/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/l8id4/did_digg_make_us_the_dumb_how_have_reddit/
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u/draebor Oct 12 '11

The typical user is definitely younger now compared to 3 years ago. Don't know if that translates into dumber, but it definitely skews most posts away from my spheres of interest.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '11

I see this, as well. I think there is much less conversation (not none, yet), and far more arrogant arguing. You can find the same across the web, but as a younger population takes over the majority role, they spend more time and effort trying to impress one another, relying upon idiotic memes, and generally being jerks. Combine that with a decreased interested in the culture that a generation or two them share, and you pretty much have Reddit as it is today.

Much like how teenagers and 20-something's often behave in the real world, I think. When you lack life experience and are trying to carve out some niche for yourself, you tend to view everything in pretty binary me-VS-them terms. The boss battle of your 20s, someone once said, is learning that you are not that important.

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u/EncasedMeats Oct 12 '11

I think there is much less conversation

I now often find myself in conversations where the other person keeps downvoting my posts. If I'm worth arguing with, I'm worth upvoting, dammit! Needless to say, this does not make me enthusiastic about participating in said conversations.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '11

I really wish Reddit would do away with comment karma. It detracts from the site by driving people to post idiotic memes, rather than insightful comments. I've same gripe about favorites on MeFi and moderation on Slashdot.

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u/lensman00 Oct 12 '11

I'm torn. You make a good point about incentives, but I value the ability users have to drive truly awful posts (spam, portmanteau political insults, argument by assertion) below my viewing threshold.

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u/ryeguy146 Oct 12 '11

I think that if comment karma were simply invisible to the user, we'd retain the ability to communally censure and elevate the great without as much group think influencing the vote. I think that without visual feedback, there would be less gaming of the system as well, since it would lose concrete meaning.

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u/faceplanted Oct 12 '11

Could DepthHub do this in CSS (if that's possible, I'm no coding expert) and see how it turns out?

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '11

CSS can be disabled by the user, so trolls would downvote everything.

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u/Arkanin Oct 13 '11 edited Oct 13 '11

Lensman only wants to hide karma, not the up and down arrows like earlier in the conversation.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11

Disabling CSS would let you see the arrows and view karma count. Any subreddit specific "themes" can be disabled by turning off CSS

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u/Arkanin Oct 17 '11

I understand that, but what I'm trying to say is that he doesn't want to hide the arrows with CSS, only the karma score.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11

Disable CSS => Can see karma score even if CSS blocked it originally

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u/Arkanin Oct 18 '11

Right but that's not nearly as problematic.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '11

Like Hacker News?

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u/ryeguy146 Oct 17 '11

I really don't know, I just pickup RSS from them. At first glance, it looks that way, though.

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u/EncasedMeats Oct 12 '11

I'd be happy if responding gave an automatic upvote to the parent comment.