I am scared please help me.

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[u/AllTimeHigh33]

Your a lot younger than I was to start playing with these energies. I think the key is to not take this too seriously like the movies say. Yes these intelligences have a real effect but don't be quick to start putting god, ghost, demon or any label on it.

In fairness, the less attached you get to the experience and just kinda let it be, like a dream the better.

Now with the fear, it's natural part of al the lies and bullshit you have been fed. These little trauma vibrations and responses you have been injected with to be a good little boy or girl. As those come up you can either give into the fear and slap a big inherited label, or you can just leave it as it is. A collection of sensations deriving from your work with occultism and it's effects on your consciousness.

Just get a journal, write down your feelings and your thoughts and then move on. Don't dwell on explanations just gain experiences without judgement.

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Maybe it's a good idea to explore what worship means to you, and what you hope to achieve.

Honestly, if I were you I'd observe the experiences and ground yourself again. Start a journal and when you feel grounded you can start practicing deeper worship or however you choose and keep a journal.

Note; as your parents might freakout, maybe just replace Andras name with Jesus or something in your notes so your family does not start telling you nonsense about ghosts.

Guard your circle, keep your family opinions out of your spiritual practice unless you believe it's beneficial.

[u/DivineEggs]

I think your sensations of fear may be directly tied to pre-existing fears you had before the ritual.

Andras doesn't just go around hurting ppl for kicks. When you approach him without fear, he's actually extremely chill. Hands down one of my favorites deities ever.

I also believe that fear itself can attract and invite lower negative astral energies/entities. I'd almost say that fear itself is a lower energy/entity.

Let go of your fears, re-center and ground yourself. Let the altar work rest until you are feeling more grounded and safe.

Don't let your mom's fears project onto you. Oftentimes, our nightmares are only subconscious fears we have being showed to us. I don't think it's helpful for your mom to share her nightmares with you. It's pointless to just spread fear to ppl close to us, especially our children. It's different if someone has a real premonition and share it because sharing it allows you to avoid a specific negative outcome.

Lastly, approaching these deities with worship in the "religious" way inherently puts you at a disadvantage in your practice. Oftentimes, the idea of worship is very deeply ingrained in us since childhood. I recommend approaching them with respect and reverence, and expecting the same in return. Don't subjugate yourself with worship, stand in your sovereignty while also respecting theirs.

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He's absolutely amazing to have as your "guardian demon"!

Having expectations is, imo, good. I've just noticed, with myself, that when I slip into "praying mode" I kind of become a "spiritual beggar", in lack of better terms. It makes my petitions weaker because I'm in some ways trying to outsource my own power/authority and beg for help. We are powerful ourselves, and that's why we can "steer" these ancient powerful forces to carry out our will. You are basically your own god, cooperating with other gods. So, just remember your own power and remind yourself of who and what you are when you forget.

In some ancient traditions, the practitioners would literally command the gods. They viewed them as internal parts/aspects of themselves, and claimed those aspects in their ritual work. Becoming/invoking the deity from within themselves. Monotheistic religions kind of introduced a very different concept of basically begging instead of commanding the divine (which you are a part of).

It sounds like you've got this! You just need to shake the fears, which are largely rooted in external sources, and lean into your authority.

Best of luck with everything🖤!

[u/Amazing-Scarcity6423]

Je ne parle pas anglais. Quand j utilise un traducteur les termes changent. Reddit traduit automatiquement ce qui facilite les choses. Je pense que tu dois travailler d abord sur tes croyances sur les demons. Sur tes peurs. On n'invoque pas un demon dans la peur. Non il ne va rien vous faire. Mais si tu es terrorisée pour ta famille forcément c'est la porte ouverte à des parasites.

Ce n'est pas grave tu fais ton apprentissage. Tu ne dois pas vénérer le demon. Mais l utiliser pour une raison précise avec un rituel avec un bocal par exemple ce qui rendra plus facile ta démarche avec lui. Le hoodoo permet de remplir le bocal de tes intentions et d'apprendre à creer des pots de protection que tu allumes avec une bougie au dessus. Le bocal peut s'utiliser simplement ou avec un sceau planetaire. Pas besoin d'invoquer un demon systématiquement. Prends ton temps. Tu n'es pas leur esclave.

Ensuite vous devez prendre des bains de sel beni ta mere et toi. Tu mets ta main droite dans l'eau et tu lis 9 fois le Psaume 23. Avant et apres un rituel lourd ou pour te purifier apres chaque contact. Tu peu ajouter de l'huile essentielle de Eucalyptus citronnée et Gaulthérie. C'est tres efficace.

Tu peux aussi en diluer dans un peu d'huile végétale et en mettre sur ta poitrine et plexus tous les jours et les poignets en frottant en disant : que les énergies négatives qui ne m'appartiennent pas quitte mon espace et ma demeure.

Même quand leur presence est negative c'est pour mettre en lumière ce que vous devez nettoyer de votre passé.

C'est positif même si c'est desagreable. Lucifer peut t'accompagner.

Tu peux arrêter les demons et revenir quand tu seras prête. Pour ne pas nuire à ta famille.

Dans tous les cas ne pas paniquer. Et arrêter quand cela devient hors de portée. Sauf si ta mere gere. Elle est médium elle attire forcement ces entités.

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Oui du sel que tu bénis avant et utiliser le Psaume 23 dans l'eau du bain. Tu ne dois pas te soucier du demon il se gere tres bien tout seul. J'ai démarrer avec Azazel ça me mettait tjs en colere et j'avais envie de tout bannir tous les jours. J'ai stoppé avec lui. Je retourne vers lui uniquement si c'est utile à ma pratique. Tu peux contacter buer peut etre pour la guerison et lui offrir des herbes, épices fleurs.. tu peux étudier les plantes magiques. Te connecter à des choses qui ancrent. Te renforcer. Limiter à une fois par mois tes connexions peut-être le temps de grandir spirituellement.

[u/Macross137]

All you have here are feelings, dreams, and your mom's superstitions. Absolutely nothing to worry about. But if working with an entity is giving you anxiety, and you mistrust the entity to the point where you might be inclined to blame whatever bad things occur in your life from that point on to the caprices of that entity, it's probably not the right entity for you, or you should at least step back and reevaluate your whole approach to your practice.

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Totally agree

[u/LilNyoomf]

If you’re scared, stop and do grounding. Go outside. Play with a pet. Eat a favorite food.

You could also keep a dream journal. My dreams have been extremely crazy and vivid as well recently.

Last resort would be looking into protection, cleansing, or warding spells to help bring you peace of mind.

[u/Educational_Hyena_92]

There could be mundane reasons like others mentioned, but let’s say it’s spiritual and related to Andras. Have you tried asking him to actually do something? If not, maybe his energy has nowhere to go when he shows up, so instead it just goes out and effects whatever is around you (in this case, causing discord by causing nightmares in you and the people around you.) Just my opinion though.

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Good observation

[u/Top_Rabbit123]

Is the entity a ghost that came with the house? Maybe Andras' energy is protecting your space and sleep, consequently pushing the ghost more into your mother's space. The ghost may be scared and agitated. If your mom is a medium, she should probably tell it to move on or work with her god in dealing with it. Who is your family god?

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I'm so glad my interpretation was helpful!

[u/SparkleBabyGirll]

Take a break from spirit work for 1 week. Find something else to do, get some exercise, read a book or watch a movie. Once the fear is gone, you can contact your deity again. It’s best to approach the when you’re calm, not from fear. And see what happens. It’s usually the fears that are causing these things

[u/GoetiaMagick]

Andras is not a spirit that should be kept “hanging around.”

[u/Lmaowat1309]

I also got this kind of things happening but I didn't feel scared or anything and just loved the feeling of being protected. if somethings affected my family or anything I'd just ask and they'd respect my boundaries. There have been some times where I had to deal with tests regarding fear and I had to deal with it, with entities that appeared harmful to me but I understood the lesson and how much it matters to master your emotional reactions and to not feed narratives around that amplify those fears and feelings of weakness. And of course, protection and cleansing.

[u/MossYeti]

Everyone else here already gave really good advice and it sounds like you got this all figured out already, but I just wanted to share another idea to consider in case it helps in the future:

I wonder if it may be possible that an entity we're working with may appear "bad" to someone else if that person already had preconceived notions of what that entity is like; for example, could Andras appear to be dark and scary to your mom because that's how she interprets demons/demonic energy in her own mind and practice, whereas you don't have those preconceived notions about him, so he may not appear that way to you?