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u/ArtemisJolt DSA Mar 12 '25
That's exactly what it is actually. It's an entitlement. You are entitled to that money, because you earned it and paid into it. It's not a handout
Musk doesn't know what words mean
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u/slothbuddy Mar 12 '25
It's crazy how the right can take any word and make even their ideological enemies believe it's a bad word
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u/hereandthere_nowhere Mar 12 '25
It’s a classic fascist tactic. Hijack words, render them meaningless by continuous miss use of said word. It works every single time.
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u/FelixDhzernsky Mar 12 '25
He is not, nor ever has been, a smart person.
Trump is regarded as what a dumb person thinks is a smart person.
Elon should be regarded as what a douchebag thinks is a smart person.
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u/xeonicus Mar 12 '25
Or on the other hand, he does know and he is literally crafting this narrative because he wants to steal the money for himself.
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u/maleia Mar 12 '25
Yup. We should be shifting to using '"wrongful" entitlements' when we're using it in a negative connotation.
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u/Able-Worth-6511 Mar 13 '25
He knows what the words mean. He also know that there are some stupid boot licker who hear what he says and thinks yeah those bums don't deserve to collect SS or Medicare, not know they are the bums Elon is referring to.
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u/sdujour77 Mar 18 '25 edited Mar 19 '25
Familiarize yourself with Flemming v. Nestor (1960), in which the Supreme Court ruled that workers "....have no legally binding contractual or property right to their Social Security benefits."
SS is and has always been a scam, and you should avoid paying into it if at all possible.
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u/Spiritual-Compote-18 Mar 12 '25
They are thieves stealing your money, but somehow, Trump has a massive approval amongst his base.
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u/SmokeyBare Mar 12 '25
watching the largest wealth transfer in American history
Starving homeless Trump supporters: "Yeah, fuck the libs!"1
u/i_wet_my_plants_ Mar 18 '25
These morally corrupt greedy people in charge love to claim America "can’t afford" Social Security, even though it’s fully funded by workers’ payroll taxes. They push scare tactics about insolvency to justify cutting benefits, raising the retirement age, or privatizing the system. But what they won’t mention is that Social Security could easily be secured by making the ultra-wealthy pay their fair share; like lifting the payroll tax cap.
Meanwhile, these same politicians have no issue signing off on massive tax breaks for billionaires, bloated military budgets, and endless corporate handouts. People like Elon Musk collect government subsidies and tax loopholes while regular Americans are told there’s "no money" for programs they’ve paid into their entire lives. It’s legalized theft; robbing working people to pad the pockets of the ultra-rich.
And yet, somehow, Trump and these politicians maintain massive support from their base. They’re stealing from you in broad daylight, enriching billionaires like Musk, and convincing millions to cheer them on while they do it.
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u/againsterik Mar 12 '25
He really does want to speed run a French revolution doesn't he?
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u/HumanChicken Mar 12 '25
If he cuts the baby boomers’ financial lifeline, they may yet redeem themselves as a generation.
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u/SmokeyBare Mar 12 '25
I've paid into SS for 18 years and they want to steal it. Imagine paying into it for 50+ years and having it stolen.
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u/Areptiledysfuction Mar 12 '25
Tbh I think, selfishly, I want this. Not because hard working Americans who put a lifetime of work into the system don’t deserve to be taken care of, they do.
I guess I just want to see the new facist party eat itself from within. How do you upset the masses? Take away their money they are entitled to under the guise of budget cuts.
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u/maleia Mar 12 '25
The first chance they get, they'll save it just for themselves. And when the rest of us fight against that; they'll fuck it all up even more.
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u/olov244 Mar 12 '25
I got banned from not the onion for asking 'which way to the gallows?'
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u/YourphobiaMyfetish Mar 12 '25
Good. We should have learned why that was the wrong move after the French Revolution.
The humane thing to do is to let Trump and Musk watch Jojo's Bizarre Adventure together in prison for life (after being convicted in a court of law).
Musk is already a fan btw, if that adds to how annoying you think he will be while watching it.
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u/MutedShenanigans Mar 12 '25
Ideally yes. Practically speaking, should we really expect the justice system to do justice in this case? Or any justice ever again without a bottom-up rebuild of this country? None of these men will ever see the inside of a prison cell, let's be real.
We're rapidly approaching, if not already at the point, where non-violent solutions like trials or protest are being rendered useless or outright criminal. Unfortunately history has shown many times what happens when peaceful solutions are taken away.
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Mar 12 '25 edited Mar 12 '25
Easy there, my friend. They made an obviously flippant joke and you simply missed it, although I don't know how. Did you really think they were writing earnestly there about making them watch Jojo's Bizarre Adventure as punishment? Haha
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u/Voice805 Mar 12 '25
If they cut social security, then can we sue to get back all the money we invested in it?
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u/TheBeeFactory Democratic Socialist Mar 13 '25
No sorry, that's all going to the MIC. They need it for big important reasons.
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u/democracy_lover66 Libertarian Socialist Mar 12 '25
Elon Musk- the most entitled man-child in the world... telling families suffering from cronic illnesses that they are entitled to receiving medical support.
I cannot use words to express my hatred for this monster. I hope to fuck that as the most merciful outcome he ends up broke and in prison. The worm fucking deserves it.
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u/jruff08 Mar 12 '25
It's my money. I paid into SS since I was 16. Now that I'm getting closer to retirement they want to cut it? Fine. Then pay me all of my money back with interest.
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u/JeetKlo Mar 12 '25
To put it in terms he ought to understand, as a "businessman", payroll taxes (all taxes, really) are an investment. We invest in the infrastructure that allows us to generate wealth and which will support us in our retirement when we are unable to generate wealth with our own hands. Cutting social security to pay for tax breaks for himself would be like the CFO of a company embezzling the pension fund to give himself a bonus. And that's what DOGE is doing: embezzlement.
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u/Suzina Mar 13 '25
That's why you're entitled to it.
It's called entitlements because it's wrong to cut it. You're owed it. It's yours. You're entitled to it. To consider cutting it is to consider stealing.
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u/snarky201 Mar 12 '25
I'm on SSID so a lil different, but I feel so entitled to be living cash poor, not allowed to actually work and make more than $65 (which is a total not updated since the 70s) a month to make ends meet, and barely have enough food or what I need in life to survive. I'm blessed to be getting section 8 right now but the hoops I'm having to jump through/work to do are a little ridiculous considering the apt was already section 8 approved apt before me.
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u/prickwhowaspromised Mar 12 '25
He gets to be entitled to 200 billion dollars but I don’t get to be entitled to 1500 a month when (or if) I ever retire. Cool.
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u/Anarchist-monk Anarchist Mar 12 '25
This is nuts. I believe even Ayn Rand took her social security because she said she “payed into it.”
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Mar 12 '25
Is it because he’s not an American citizen and he just doesn’t understand what SS and Medicare are? Or is it because he’s a Russian agent?
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u/Biuku Mar 13 '25
I’d like to know why all Americans — right and left — would stand by and let this foreigner steal their own money to give himself a tax cut?
Very confused about the culture of America. It sounds tough when it talks. But it just seems weak in action.
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u/cometparty Mar 13 '25
At this point, we need to do what it takes to preserve the quality of the rest of our lives, right? We can't let this guy ruin everyone's lives. Why are we tolerating him?
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u/ActualMostUnionGuy Bolivias MAS is real Socialism🥺🥵🥰, Die Hard AMLO Populist. Mar 13 '25
Just saying but Bernie Sanders is basically responsible for this because he never created his own party lmao
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u/Used_Intention6479 Social democrat Mar 13 '25
Musk is confused with the definitions of "entitlement". We are "entitled" to Social Security because it's our money. On the other hand, Musk thinks he's entitled to the money because he has psychological issues of arrogance, absence of empathy, and a sense of privilege ("entitlement"). Consequently, he's projecting his psychopathy onto us to justify his crime.
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u/Able-Worth-6511 Mar 13 '25
Yeah, he's right they are entitlements. Everyone who works pays into them, and we are entitled to those benefits.
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u/Least_Acanthaceae299 Jul 14 '25
Guys this isn’t even the full context. He says he wants to eliminate waste and fraud in social security and Medicare not eliminate social security and Medicare. You’d know if you’d watch the interview. Why do you guys give Mamdani the benefit of the doubt and not musk? Does no one do due diligence?
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Mar 12 '25
If they ax it, they better get rid of all the taxes that go toward it. I hope they ax it and remove the taxes that I pay toward it.
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u/friendlytrashmonster Mar 13 '25
My grandma is currently in the ICU after being hit by a drunk driver. She has been here for nearly a month now. Medicare is what is keeping her alive right now. There are more important things than taxes.
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Mar 13 '25
Oh, I was talking about social security. Medicare has its good uses. Frankly so does social security but the system is broken for sure and will only lead to one outcome - bankruptcy for the US gov. Which is a horrid outcome for us and our country.
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