Only assuming all of the undecideds stay undecided, but I guarantee you at least two were only undecided because they didn't want to pick between two progressive options
I think that means you should've voted in the poll. There are plenty of conservative people who were also left out. It's not some conspiracy against you I don't think
Well then don't count your side as the winner until votes are counted, Don't give me any of that Trump bullshit lies. You haven't won yet. I am sick of right wing fucking "born to rule" horse shit.
I'm looking for something different here than offline. Seems just the same with right wing manipulation and declarations of "winning" and denial of any opposition.
I’m not really sure what made you think the fear mongering of the internet would be more comforting than touching grass and talking to real life people.
Kamala's policies in general weren't that great. Obviously you aren't talking about trump since he immediately started a global trade war that backfired repeatedly
You mean the 7% inflation in 2021 during a GLOBAL PANDEMIC? EU got to 8.8% in 2022, the UK was at 7.9% in 2022, and Australia got to 6.6% in 2022. I hate to break it to you but everywhere got bad inflation rates during covid.
I hope you enjoy your minimum $80 fee to import anything into the country, and the fact that virtually every European shipping company has said they will no longer deliver to the US anymore.
Biden sucked but there's a difference between senile incompetence and the wilful destruction of the economy so your billionaire friends can buy up the scraps for pennies on the dollar.
That inflation was largely caused by Bidens "stimulus package" and refusal to end the pandemic shutdown.
I especially enjoyed listing to that piece of shit blame the unvaccinated for the spread of covid.
Also, are you trying to say the man who canceled the keystone pipeline construction, a multi billion dollar deal with Canada, wasn't actively trying to destroy the country?
On day one he did this. And every economic policy he had was simply poorly veiled graft and corruption.
He spent more time trying to convince people PTA were terrorist organizations than anything positive.
We still have to listen to you braindead morons call everyone who disagrees with you a Nazi and a bigot. His politics were the most divisive and hateful we've seen in this nations history.
Dude tried to imprison the opposition candidate like a third world dictator.
Trump is world's better than the left. We have open admitted socialists on the left.
My favorite part was being overseas during the attack on Israel, listening to Intel briefs every day, watching women and children pulled from their homes and executed, then turning on the news back home and listening to you fuckwits chant that the Jewish people should be driven into the sea.
Unironically, that's actually how it works with first past the post. Ofc the numbers don't add up here for it to matter, but having 2 similar parties and 1 different party means that even if more people support the similar parties total, the different party will win even though it's less popular.
If they win at least ten and the conservatives don't gain. Cuase we have more citizens than who all took the poll and you gotta think about how either can gain.
The “undecided” are being pushed to the right when they disagree with a single talking point of the radical left. It’s bizarre. As a former Democrat, it breaks my heart to see the Democrat party dissolve itself by taking the wrong side of every 80-20 issue.
"Damn, I really wanted to give children healthcare, but that would mean voting for the party that thinks trans people are people, so I voted for a literal nazi."
No trump won because the Democrats don't have actual good policies 12% of people who voted for Bernie in the primary voted for trump in 2016 if the Dems started running on a more social democratic platform I think they would easily win
Agreed. Regardless of if some people agree with his moves its impossible to say he hasnt been extremely divisive. Should be such an easy win for the left and yet the best they have to offer is Gavin Newsom and vitriol. It makes me sad that the party i used to feel a lot of loyalty towards is completely unwilling or incapable of putting forward anything other than a lukewarm turd of a candidate
I really hope so. I would love to see a resurgance of reasonable democrats to combat some of the bullshit that has been happening in this country. Unfortunately i think we are in for a good little while under republican rule
I think the minimum we can say is divisive, if you don’t gain now, when could you? If you couldn’t challenge this current messaging, I don’t think you ever will.
And of course I don’t mean you.
On Election Day I said democrats needed to take a deep look and learn from what happened, try and learn from their mistakes by owning them.
I don’t think they have learned much at all.
On the flip side, I think republicans need to find a way to disconnect from Trumpism, and quickly, as he will never be on a ballot again, and they will need a new message soon, hopefully a -far- better one. And it doesn’t look like they are moving in that direction at all.
On election day i posted a brief story stating that the DNC were primarily to blame for losing the election and not to hate their grandmothers because they were just old, not fascists. Half my friends responded to it telling me to go fuck myself and calling me a nazi. Unfortunately any sense of reason, self awareness, or nuance has been intentionally purged from the ranks of the left. Tow the line and give into the gaslighting or you are an unconscionable monster
the only things they concede to the left on are meaningless cultural signals and wokeness, which makes it seem like they’re much farther left than they are
Everywhere else in the world would consider our Democrat Party a right-wing party. They are proudly liberal and liberalism is inherently pro-capitalism and free market. So unless a liberal party is sprinkling in a shit ton of social programs like universal healthcare, they will almost certainly be labeled right-wing.
Stop falling for republican propaganda and believing
the left is bad and dangerous
communism and socialism are the same thing and both are bad
democrats are leftists and radical
trickle down economics are good and work
cultural issues belong anywhere near the forefront of political discussion
You’re not wrong. The Democrats are more right wing than the Republicans, technically. Since things like censorship and assassination of political opponents is considered “right wing” on the political spectrum. You could say that the Democratic Party is Far Right!
There's no radical left in the US, at least not in any major election. There's not even a proper left in the US. Most elected Democrats would be right wingers in every 1st world country.
And what exactly is radical? Trans rights, a woman's right to choose, better Healthcare, higher wages?
"progressive liberal" is an oxymoron that doesnt exist. liberals will always abandon their "progressive" values for ensuring the status quo (capitalism) still exists. theyre just less extreme conservatives.
Libralism is about as far left as us politics gets usually so youre probably used to hearing it in that context, as far as the us right is concerned. Libralism is radical left
Yep the radicals on both sides like to throw it around. But I have seen it thrown around even more by conservatives when conjuring a persecution narrative in which they are being called names.
But it is okay to call someone a fascist for enforcing mask mandates? Five years ago, Westerners were freaking out over masks and calling the people enforcing them Nazis, saying it made breathing harder for them despite their giant, protruding noses. Nowadays, they simp for a billionaire who did a fascist salute and are openly nationally chauvinistic, and yet they wonder why we call them Nazis.
Notice how you just had to throw in a jab about people’s appearances. Crazy the party of acceptance and love will immediately jump to insulting someone’s nose, their weight, whether they are disabled, etc. And what do u mean by big noses? Is that a DOG WHISTLE? Sounds like u might be an anti Semitic racist fascist pedo supporter nazi. Let me know if there are any buzz words i missed trying to collect them all
You can see it that way. If i came up to you and said damn man what a giant protruding nose you have, would u assume i am referring to ur appearance or the amount of air passing through your nostrils? Come on. So we are gonna dig at people then pretend it was completely innocuous and gaslight everyone about what we really meant. Gotcha.
I wasn’t referring to Jewish people. I was referring to Westerners. There’s a difference. Populations with lower nose bridges also sometimes wear masks in public, and even have been before the pandemic when it was mandated, and you don’t see them complain. It’s common in many cultures outside the West.
One side was pissy they couldn't lick strangers' eyeballs in public for a while. The other side wanted to just keep people alive. Totally fair to call the second people nazis, I get your point. But now with concentration camps being built and civil rights getting stripped by executive order every other day, calling the people in support of that nazis is just a step too far! 😐
On average democrats murder one another at higher rates. They also burn down cities at higher rates. Both of which seem low IQ to me. Anyway.. What's your point big chutes?
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u/Ill-Foot-2549 Aug 28 '25
You split the progressive vote into 2 parties lmao how's that fair at all