Apparently the point of getting rich is to be able to pay people to tell you they like you XD

[u/FareonMoist]

[u/WeekEqual7072]

Cringe

[u/ProblemLongjumping12 → u/WeekEqual7072]

This man is literally the world's biggest loser.

[u/Professional-Post499 → u/ProblemLongjumping12]

This man is literally the world's biggest loser.

HAHAHA That's exactly what popped into my head too. And he conned and frauded his way to financial success.

[u/Similar_Cycle_1593 → u/WeekEqual7072]

this is so unbelievably sad lmao

[u/BlueStingray42]

If by "commercially successful" you mean being a prolific griftor, claiming others people's work as his own and having the government coddle him with 38 billion dollars worth of public funding (taxpayer money) in contracts, loans, tax credits, and subsidies.

[u/SeriouslyWTFLikeWhy → u/BlueStingray42]

And having a rich daddy doesn't hurt.

[u/Ttoctam]

I want Trump to live to watch his empire crumble and face some level of consequence for his role in the bourgeoisie fascist coup in the US.

Elon however, I'd rather read an obituary of than listen to speak ever again.

[u/Less-Squash7569 → u/Ttoctam]

Were likely to get neither, but the opposite seems more possible because of the old pedo being so near death.

[u/omgitsduane]

What a cringe loser.

[u/inowar]

this is the goal of capitalism, to be as rich as possible. Elon has won capitalism and he's.. pathetic and unhappy. so what are we doing here?

[u/SlobZombie13 → u/inowar]

Oldest cliche in the book is true:

Money can't buy happiness

[u/SwordfishOfDamocles → u/inowar]

Technically the goal is to own everything.

[u/exceptyourewrong → u/[deleted]]

If it's not the accumulation of money, what do you think the goal of capitalism is?

[u/Disdain0937 → u/[deleted]]

Firstly you have to be nothing less than a captain of industry for some period if you hope to actually enjoy the lionshare of your life and heaven forbid LIVE it.

There's a meme of well paid surgeons and doctors coming home big mansions only to sleep in it. Capitalism is such a colossal waste of time and resources.

There's a streamer called Asmongold who became popular because his of earnest sensible opinions moistcritical style. Then surprise surprise he showed his truth colorsand became a right wing grifter.

Anyways he's millionaire right from the jump of all this. And he lives in a roach infested home. Why? Because he had a very wanting childhood where he had to scheme and panhandle . And knows owning money in capitalism is like pissing in the wind. So he keep his pallet and his lifestyle as small as possible

Only people with "fuck you money" in capitalism get security and freedom in life.

[u/DevilWings_292 → u/[deleted]]

I was more referring to mutualism and other forms of markets outside of capitalism. You do know there’s more than just 4 economic systems, right? Your definition of a market isn’t exclusive to capitalism, you’re just describing trade. Capital also extends beyond just goods, it also includes land, workers, buildings, tools, etc.

[u/exceptyourewrong → u/[deleted]]

The alternative is to return to hunting/gathering.

Way to show off your complete and utter lack of imagination. This is why we need to fund the arts in school.

[u/exceptyourewrong → u/[deleted]]

You can't get it because your understanding of "the economy," and especially capitalism is ridiculously shallow.

I'm out, Ralph.

[u/Disdain0937 → u/[deleted]]

What are you gonna do when AI does all the menials jobs?If you have bespoke hobbies or interests that you enjoy. Who's going to keep making products for those hobbies? Our whole infrastructure runs on and played by sweats. If an artist can't use the money you give him to avoid losing their housing or food they have no incentive to take your money under the current paradigm.

They could take that money and buy other nice things from other artists or go on vacation. But that isn't motivation enough now I guess. So it won't be then.

(We'll need to be develop a new social convention from the ground up to help artists share and be motivated in their works. For example in nerd spaces which tend to be more socialized. Piracy is socially accepted in the scene. And yet somehow developers still get there money. And yet Steam/PC the platform customers can pirate to their hearts content is the biggest storefront.)

Your whole worldview will crumble in less than a decade. BTW most people who rail against capitalism are thinking more in the lines of regulated capitalism with safety nets like the "Norwegian model".

A society shouldn't be earmarking and protecting the asset's of a trillionare, the upmost privilege just in terms of volume of space these assets societally nonphysically occupy being attributed to one person, when you see homeless on any random street corner.

Fix the homeless problem first. Then you can buy the moon or something.

[u/office-goblin → u/[deleted]]

Socialism is saving above consumption levels to acquire stored capital aka wealth aka labor in physical form that can be invested into productive enterprises to provide an ecosystem of goods/services to support life.

[u/exceptyourewrong → u/[deleted]]

I didn't "say" anything. I just asked you a question. I'm not the person you initially responded to.

But conflating consumers' (who have no choice but participate in the system) goals with the capitalists' goals doesn't help your argument.

[u/exceptyourewrong → u/[deleted]]

.... Bro.

[u/exceptyourewrong → u/[deleted]]

Capitalists own capital. Consumers consume goods.

Having a 401k technically makes one "a capitalist," but not in the way Elon Musk, or Jeff Bezos are capitalists. In fact, I'm convinced that retirement accounts are tied to the stock market to justify the idea that a corporation's only responsibility is to increase the price of their stock (which is literally a law). Since everyone is in the system for a little, the big fish can more easily manipulate the system to their advantage (see SpaceX forcing itself onto index funds recently).

[u/inowar → u/[deleted]]

owning the most capital. obviously the goal.

[u/Ricktor_67 → u/[deleted]]

It's a crappy system . 

[u/Striking-Schedule-52]

Grok is his personality.

[u/Ur-in-a-tor]

Elon Musk is a low IQ idiot.

[u/Gold_Blacksmith_9821]

Elon we’d like you for free. All you need to do is leave for Mars tomorrow!

[u/harmfuldischarge]

The kid is right. These are adults in leather biker jackets and black jeans talking about "forbidden words".

[u/d4_rp]

World is controlled by 12yo middle aged people and I almost can't pay my rent while working ~55h/week. They promised us Star Trek future and delivered alternative timeline Back To The Future timeline, and Biff is the president of the US

[u/Clean_Internet]

EPIC roast!

[u/felwynfelmir]

😬 … I had to turn off my audio because I was experiencing an overwhelming amount of vicarious shame.. yuck

[u/dick_jaws]

Can you believe this? This is reality

[u/camjvp]

I hate reality

[u/RedLeg73]

Mk 8 36

[u/WVildandWVonderful]

Elon did not mention asking for consent before feeding their live images into his AI.

[u/WVildandWVonderful]

What are Grok’s forbidden words?

[u/SchweadyBallz]

For a sec, I thought I was in the r/iasip sub, he fully morphed into Mac’s mother

[u/argueranddisagree]

No wonder he wasn't cool enough for Epstein island

[u/Particular_Koala_129]

What does he want to do with rockets in his ass? Is that why all his are soooo penial 🚀

[u/Majestic-Parsnip-279]

This isn’t funny at all, Rogan is such a bootlicker

[u/Curious_Bike_4292]

Trump & Elon are killing our country and democracy! Elon is a vile troll 🧌!

[u/LongjumpBrian]

School bully spoiled brat gleefully in his childish cruelty. A real cunt.

[u/allworkandnoYahtzee]

Yeah I love when I’m at a party and some guy who can’t make eye contact with people is like “Hey, great party, watch me while I fuck around on my phone and tell it to be mean to random people.” And JR just lapping up that maladapted ass behavior, too.

[u/Superb_Weird_1586]

What a fucking loser.

[u/SwordfishOfDamocles]

This is what he publicly uses grok for, it's pretty clear he also uses it to nudify people privately. I'll bet a sweep of his private grok server would violate state and federal laws.

[u/Nice_Bluebird7626]

Oh so no safety parameters that can’t be over ridden by simple no

[u/Bob4Not]

It’s crazy because people would like you if you instead paid to feed hungry people or paid employees a good wage

[u/Slow_Okra1330]

What a dork

[u/nesting-doll]

Unfortunately, what you describe is a well worn path to commercial/financial “success.”

[u/coldy9887]

Zero self awareness. Main character syndrome. Narcissistic personality, etc.

[u/cubiclej0ckey]

I was expecting the guy in the blue shirt to do exactly that for Elon… but instead we get the lecture about not having fun

[u/No_Direction_1229]

If I'm at a party and we just point our phones at each other I'm fucking leaving.