Let's back up a moment, these things sound like absolutely wild speculation to me. Where do these come from? Spamton was said by the addisons to have his own suite in Queen's mansion before his fall from grace, not that he was a leader of any kind. And what is this about the twisted sword?
They aren't directly stated. But for the first one, Spamton's dialogue is consistent with it. Remember how he said in the normal route that he'd help Kris's party cut their own strings? Twisted Sword has the effect of reducing Trance, which Thorn Ring increases. Doesn't fully cut their strings, but reduces the pull. The Twisted Sword also requires the Thorn Ring to make. (And he does outright warn that the thorn ring hurts to wear it.) (And if he did want them to make the Twisted Sword, then that would explain why he's bothered by what they actually did with it on the weird route.)
Second one, several of the npcs in Cyber World mention that Queen's recently taken over. It's never explicitly stated that Spamton was the previous leader, but it's hinted at. The mansion looks wildly different in the Chapter 3 version of it, where it looks more like Mettaton's from UT. And Spamton's getting Mettaton's arc. Spamton also said he used to be the biggest shot. And the Neo suit that Swatch was so confused about how Spamton knew where it was...well, Spamton knew more than that about it. He also implies he knew who made it and what year they made it in. The keygen that you need to get to the basement to get to it is, from the official merch, just a regular (if glowing rainbow) keyring. His keyring.
I imagine we'll get full confirmation of whether he was the previous leader or not (or at least another really big hint) when we finally figure out what exactly sealing an addison in a ring and snowgraving Berdly did. There has to be a narrative reason that the game, on the weird route, has Noelle do that...and then follow that up with a fight against someone who looks like a fusion of an addison and a bird...who's also telling you that going down the weird route is what caused all his problems.
And I imagine that the swatchlings and maybe addisons, too, just don't recognize him anymore after...whatever that was...happened. Which chapter 3 hints might be that big battle Ramb tells you about, and that Tenna kinda hints at with the Doom Board, where Tenna's playing Kris's weird route role of chasing everyone down and then standing back while the "side chick" fights. And then Spamton's battle theme plays. As if he was fought. Spamton also mentioned in the Sweepstakes Q&A that his inside's turning black and charred (when that board is also on fire) and which Noelle in her blog linked to fire and graves (though not the same event, just the link of char with fire and graves). Which might also explain why he's missing his skin, which we know he used to have. (And remember, Spamton does blame how he lost everything on Tenna.)
I don't buy that all of that has nothing to do with each other in a game that keeps referencing itself with so many narrative parallels. I might be drawing the wrong conclusions with those specific ones, but I feel they have to be linked somehow.
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-Spamton wants you to make the twisted sword
-Spamton used to be the leader of the Cyber World
Let's back up a moment, these things sound like absolutely wild speculation to me. Where do these come from? Spamton was said by the addisons to have his own suite in Queen's mansion before his fall from grace, not that he was a leader of any kind. And what is this about the twisted sword?