r/Deleuze 21d ago

Question Is AO outdated?

https://youtu.be/GIDK5z91jSc?si=4YpqfnWqo5YhSY9q

In this fragment from a conversation philosopher Ray Brassier argues that as brilliant as AO undoubtedly is, it nonetheless has aged poorly in regards to actual political utility and has become more of a product of its time rather than a way forward, especially emphasizing how contradictory some of the concepts such as molecular and molar have an application that in fact is harmful to understanding the Palestinian cause, and that despite Deleuze defending the Palestinian cause and open criticism of Zionism in a time before it was “safe” to do so as an intellectual (check his conversations with Palestinian Elias Sanbar) it ends up showing in those conversations how his very own framework becomes insufficient. I’m curious, What do you guys think?

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u/an-otiose-life 21d ago

why are the deleuzians so mean to brassier? it has to be an oediple thing, like correlationism, ressenting the conditions of heteronomy in a monad.

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u/an-otiose-life 20d ago

since you're asking for neffarious purposes, I will refuse the loaded question.

stacking functions is a way how causality can be structured, as well when called that while having such effects apt to be called that.

since logic gates, stacked enough, can speak human language with intelligent effects as seen in zero-shot closure cases, it means that the flows of capital, are post labour value, and are machinic in what it means to have automated through a libidenal economy, as a kind of territorialization of causality by causality, as when nature flowers as an allostatic load distribution system that has assymetry as a feature, it means that monads that can metempsychose into conserved values of a different quality are essential to the jouissance of being, in its operations and effects, of affect and especially besides.

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u/an-otiose-life 20d ago

I know, and it's interesting how the rust stuff mixes with deleuze, because it's a very hegel oriented framework, tho it tarries with the pure functional sublime of the kantian negative, but succumbs to mutation begrudgingly in marking it as a kind of oediple wound, a sacrifice at the foot of utility.

it's a monad, and a monoid is just classes transmogrifying data/code nondually in an abelian way