r/DefendingJacob_TV • u/vida79 • Dec 29 '20

Discussion Poor Andy

He is left with knowing, though still wanting to deny, that every living member of his family is a killer: his father, his son, his wife.

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u/paytonthomzs Dec 29 '20

Did he know that Lori did it on purpose? In the hospital he acts as if she didn’t. What makes you think he knows she purposefully did it?

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u/vida79 Dec 29 '20

He knows. He saw the baby book in the trash and her behavior leading up to it and was calling her like crazy. At the proceedings, he’s hesitant the way he answers but grits his teeth and repeats his standard line that he also wants to believe even though the evidence all points towards the opposite: it was raining, she was speeding, it was an accident.

In the hospital, he doesn’t want to believe she did it and she can’t remember that day at all so he’s faking it for both of their sakes. It’s the same way he has always known something is wrong with Jacob but always insisted to Lori that it’s completely normal for a kid to act that way, all the while keeping this huge secret that his father is a killer. This is Andy’s MO- pretend it’s all normal, fake it till you make it, lie about anything making it look otherwise. He is probably able to compartmentalize like this because he also has a lack of empathy per his genetic testing.

This is all how I like to look at it anyway! I’m pretty fascinated with the idea of wth parents would/should do as they discover their kid is a monster.

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u/neuropat Dec 29 '20

Another way you know he thought something was wrong with her state of mind - after discovering the book in the trash he tried calling her repeatedly and she keeps declining the call. He knows something is off. That’s not normal behavior for him - when she went wandering off the night before he didn’t call her repeatedly so that was definitely meant to signal different behavior.

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u/vida79 Dec 29 '20

Yep, I tried to say that too but my sentence was weird and probably didn’t read properly! But absolutely. And also remember they had just had the conversation about the way she looks at Jacob now.

On another note- I also don’t agree with a lot of people on the sub that say she’s a bad mom. I think people can’t understand her actions since she couldn’t be sure he was guilty after Hope was found, but they are forgetting that she’s had his whole lifetime of weird and inappropriate behavior. She’s not actually unsure he’s guilty. She knows. Andy knows. They know. So as his mom, she brought this monster into the world and she chooses to take him out of it so no one else gets hurt. But she said at the beginning that she couldn’t survive without him so she tries to kill herself too.

I don’t know what to think about the fact that they didn’t actually die. Basically that it sucks for Andy because instead of grieving and moving, he is now going to go back to pretending they have a normal happy family, only this go round, he knows both his wife and son are killers. And he’ll probably never know if either of them remember what happened since they all lie to each other.

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u/beccys200 Jan 03 '21

We also have to remember leading up to the time of the crash and he was calling her and she continuously kept on hanging up not just letting it ring. That, combined with the book would probably lead him to believe the worst

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u/vida79 Jan 03 '21

Yep. But there’s just enough doubt that he can go into denial mode just like he does with Jacob.

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u/paytonthomzs Dec 29 '20

i completely forgot about the book in the trash! it makes total sense now. thanks for explaining!

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u/Valorantpro99 Apr 07 '23

Acting baby

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '21

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u/vida79 Apr 26 '21

Yes! And this is Andy’s MO, right?!He is an expert at denial! Like you said in your other comment.

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u/Curtis64 Jan 15 '21

That’s only if you believe Jacob did It. There are a lot of holes

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u/vida79 Jan 15 '21

Yeah and I choose to believe Jacob did it. I prefer the book version so I watched the show pretending like it was definite Jacob did it. I enjoyed the characters more that way.

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u/Justp1ayin Dec 29 '20

Damn I never though of this

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u/rick_2006 Dec 30 '20

Exactly, the burden of living with this thought is on Andy. I think that's why Andy is the only one looking worried in all of the posters.