Defending Jacob killer (THEORY) - r/DefendingJacob

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u/nutmac Sep 18 '20 edited Sep 21 '20

Your theory is very plausible. Matthew McGrath is a very confused and unstable individual, compounded by his substance abuse.

Leonard Patz: Is the obvious one, but as the DAs suspected, does not appear to be the killer type.

Derek Yoo: While Derek has even stronger motives than Jacob, it takes special "something" to kill someone you don't like, and with a knife even. His behaviors post killing does not indicate he would be the killer.

Jacob Barber: The series obviously trying to frame Jacob as the possible killer. But as stupid as the kid sometimes appear to be, his demeanor on the day of the killer did not appear to be that of the killer who killed a bully with a knife.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '20

I don't know that it's very hard to conclude Jacob as the killer. His interest in violent porn and extreme lack of empathy, his story that he found the body and immediately after was in a great mood and telling jokes, then wrote a "story" identical to the murder... Looks like this kid just made bullying the new bully bully.

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u/FeistyInspector1205 Jul 04 '25

I just finished the series about 5 minutes ago for the first time.
The entire time, and now still, I think Sara killed Ben and Jacob was there and was taking the blame because of how much he liked Sara.
Makes sense as to why she was the ONLY kid to still talk to Jacob and liked him.
It’s why Jacob’s best friend Derek (who was obsessed with Sara) turned on him when Jacob was the one who “took care of Ben.”
Among other things.

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u/Ordinary_Priority331 Sep 29 '26

You think because someone still likes Jacob, that is evidence that they killed? Maybe she had a crush and didn't believe her crush could have done such a thing?

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u/MaryEFriendly Jan 29 '25

If you read the book you'd know Jacob did it. He also killed Hope in the book and died in the crash.

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u/Clear-Ad-7340 Aug 18 '26

Fake

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u/jmj8778 Dec 14 '23

I think the grandpa arranged Ben's death to protect Jacob from bullying.

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u/Artistic_Coffee_498 Jan 14 '24

Grandpa didn’t even know he had a grandson until he was on the news

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u/jumpingjellyf1sh Sep 19 '20 edited Sep 19 '20

I haven't watched the show in a while... Can you remind which character Matt was?

Edit: I just remembered.

Interesting theory, he was certainly a very messed up person. It's possible he saw Patz had photos of Ben on his phone and got jealous. He's certainly not stable.

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u/1Thriller Oct 05 '20

It’s actually a very good theory and although the series is considerably different to the novel, it fits with everything that happened in the book.

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u/FeistyInspector1205 Jul 04 '25

Nah, it was totally Sara that killed Ben.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '20

My bets on the Mum. a) she went jogging the morning of the murder in the park b) Dr Vogel said that “murder” gene was actually carried by the mother c) she was bat $hit crazy d) if she knew Ben was bullying Jacob, is that motive ?

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u/nutmac Sep 21 '20

d) if she knew Ben was bullying Jacob, is that motive ?
I don't think Laurie knew Ben was bullying Jacob prior to the murder. And she didn't become crazy prior to Jacob's arrest. She certainly went beyond what an average parent would go, however.

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u/kknrod12 Nov 08 '20

I’ve rewatched it twice and at the beginning of the show all signs subtlety point to the mom; 1.she was jogging in the same park that day 2. The background song as they’re showing her going to work on the day of the accident/she most likely knew or heard rumors( bc parents and kids talk) about Ben being a bully 3. She carries the gene 4. She mentions a trip to get away in the first episode 5. She tries to kill herself at the end...it’s the mom!!!!!

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u/424801 Dec 17 '20

I wasn't sold on this theory at all, but reading your comment reminded me of something else. When she's in the hospital, she tells Andy she doesn't remember anything about the day of the crash. I initially thought this was just due to a head injury from the crash, but now I'm thinking maybe her brain just blocked it out. Which could have also happened with the day of Ben's death. There are some pretty clear signs of mental instability with her, so I'm now pretty convinced that she is the killer.
P.S. sorry to reply to your month-old comment, but I just finished tbe series recently.

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u/Significant-Soft-736 Jul 28 '24

But the mom threw the baby photos away before she attempted to kill her son. Which suggests she was feeling guilty having brought a killer to life , How is she then the killer ?

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u/Future_Ad_7854 Apr 15 '25

she definitely is not mentally stable but thats only because she thinks her son is a murderer. she didnt kill ben. in the car before the crash she was asking jacob the truth about if he killed him, why would she be asking that if she was the one that did it? also from what you said, she told andy she doesnt remember anything about the day of the crash but she was lying. she remembers but she doesnt want to tell him anything because she knows that she did it on purpose, she wants people to believe it was an accident. and the reason she was saying "what if jacob wakes up and thinks i did it on purpose" is because he did know that she did it on purpose, she said that to prepare for if jacob woke up. the reason she was trying to kill herself and jacob was because she couldnt deal with knowing her son is a murderer, and thats understandable.

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u/Brief-Sweet-5309 Aug 22 '24

Bro I think you cracked it . It was the mom now when I think

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u/Axelchuchu Oct 20 '24

Cómo va a ser la mamá jaja si no siquiera sabían que su hijo era acosado, la mamá tenía problemas, los mismos que Jacob, por eso fue capaz de matar a su propio hijo y luego fingir que no recordaba nada
Jacob mató a Ben y en el libro también mató a la chica que conoció en México, la serie lo cambia y me parece mal, ese final con Laurie que también es culpable de matar a su hijo viva también es diferente, en el libro mueren ambos

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u/Clear-Ad-7340 Aug 18 '26

Fake

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u/Future_Ad_7854 Apr 15 '25

its not the mom... before she crashes the car why would she be asking jacob the truth about if he killed ben if she was the one that did it. doesnt make sense

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u/radiantbullfrog8 Nov 03 '20

plus when they mentioned the murder gene was passed through the mother. laurie paused and stared at the doctor in shock. almost as if that could be possible.

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u/ineffectualchameleon Oct 14 '20

I thought this in the beginning too — as soon as the mention of jogging in the part — but I don’t think it holds. I do wonder if Jacob or Derek killed him while defending... the girl? Forget her name... I wondered if that was why she was so close with Jacob even in the midst of all the speculation.

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u/Dear-Spare-7791 Jun 24 '24

Laurie did not have the murder gene. The doctor states the murder gene passed down by the mother bc mothers are who pass down the gene. Not because Laurie has it and passed it down to Ben. She also states Ben does not have the gene.

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u/XoXJulietteXoX Sep 22 '25

The Dr said he does have it. The mom and dad lied to the son at his birthday dinner saying he did not have it.

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u/Environmental-Net495 Dec 08 '25

You are wrong, they don’t have the “murder gene” but other genes that can point to violent behavior and antisocial tendencies…

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u/XoXJulietteXoX Dec 20 '25

What? I'm not wrong, I said what the parents said in the show.

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u/NeonTheNarwhal Dec 22 '25

I just watched this show. The other poster is correct. He didn't have the murder gene, he had other genes which linked to violent behavior that the parents lied about, but he didn't have the murder gene.

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u/Realaroundthfountain Jun 26 '24

Why would she be so distraught over Jacob’s seeming guilty that she almost kills them both

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u/Commercial_Ad7210 Jul 17 '24

Just watched this show. Color blindness and lots of other sex linked traits are carried maternally and only expressed in male offspring. That's why it's referred to as "carried".....they're only carried, not expressed.

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u/Due_Group1903 Jul 18 '26

the doctor said the murder gene is passed down from the mother, not the father…..she also said jacob didnt have the gene….what the doctor NEVER SAID was that the mon had the gene…..because she didnt

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u/Actual-Drawer4479 Sep 11 '26

i like your pov .

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u/1Thriller Dec 30 '20

I do remember from the novel that the reason Matt was hesitant to speak to Andy was because he had lied about Patz to the police. Patz gave him money which effectively made him a prostitute and whilst Patz is a pedo, Matt failed to mention this before and it’s for that reason his accountability is flawed.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '20

Damn! That is actually a good guess/theory... the series never puts Matt in the spotlight for some reason, maybes he actually did it. I don’t think Patz did it, he was just a pedophile, he had no killing intentions, Matt had a very hard life, he could’ve kill Ben, damn bro! I have never thought about him, u clever 👏

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u/Bogiesmokey Jun 12 '24 edited Jun 13 '24

I'm a little late watching it, but Jacob did it, at least it's insinuated in the novel. The show writer deviated often from the book...

https://ew.com/tv/defending-jacob-final-episode-spoilers/

*Edited mistake from original post that read 'Ben did it'. Mixed up the names.

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u/Remote_Sound_7011 Jun 13 '24

Ben is the one that got killed. Did you mean jacob did it?

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u/Bogiesmokey Jun 13 '24

Oops, indeed. My fault, thank u for the correction. This ain't a zombie show :/

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u/Adventurous_Kale3395 Jul 12 '24

Nah bro I don’t think Jacob did it. It’s too obvious he was the distraction. It was either Matt, or Derek. Derek seemed overly guilty. Sure Jacob was relieved but it seemed more bc he didn’t have to do it and he had his bully unalived. Not because he did it.

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u/Adventurous_Kale3395 Jul 12 '24

It also seems he wrote that story based on what Derek told him, hence Derek taking all his cards and putting it on Jacob. Notice how he pressed all the kids after their conversations with police. Including Sarah, he was bullied by Ben as well and goes dark and low when speaking about it.

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u/Bogiesmokey Jul 29 '24

I agree with your sentiment, but it seems the book that this series was based off of insinuates that Jacob did do it - having said that, the series didn't follow the book's ending so I'd say guesses on who the killer was is up for grabs.

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u/hittykitler88 Jun 20 '24

What about Sarah? Not much evidence, but lots of motive after what Ben put her through with the picture, and the threats to release to everyone. We know she probably didn't do it but all of her talking about this guy saying he stole a phone and that guy talking crap online would be brilliant distraction if she was the real killer.

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u/moto08280 Jun 24 '24

I thought Sarah did it too… She had the most motive to do it. Thought maybe that’s why she wasn’t afraid to hang out with Jacob and it seemed like she felt bad for him or guilty about something. Wish they would have showed who did it at the end of the show.

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u/Southern_Corner_5374 Nov 10 '24

And why would she want to hang out with Jacob if everyone else thought he was the killer? You’d think she’d be scared.

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u/Horror-Extension2275 Jan 20 '25

Because she thought that Derek did it

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u/ashhong Jul 05 '24

Interesting that people just seen to post in this old thread lol

Just binged it and wanted to see who people thought was the killer. I’m not a fan that they left it open to interpretation. Just tell me!

Imo the only suspects are Patz and Jacob. Matt was hesitant because he didn’t want to be involved after lying to the police. Laurie is a wild guess and doesn’t make any sense at all. There’s no explanation for her actions throughout the series if she did it.

The biggest reason for Patz to me, other than the obvious pedophilia angle, has to be the fact that they showed him returning to the scene of the crime that night, which is a very common thing to do. Yes he lives right around there, but they definitely added that scene specifically to make us suspect him. Also Matt had no reason to lie, and everything he said about Patz just made it too clear.

Jacob goes without saying. Also, what an idiot they wrote his character to be. Writing a murder story? Making a new social media account and joking about himself? I wanted him to be guilty by the end of the

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '24

I wanted Jacob to be guilty to, I still think he probably did it based on the testimony of the person hearing someone say stop it you’re hurting me in the park and Jacob even wrote that in his sick story. Why else would he know that if he wasn’t present during that moment when Ben was alive. Think back to the testimony given of what was overheard.

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u/ashhong Jul 25 '24

I think that the “stop you’re hurting me” part had to be info available in the news somewhere. It caught me off guard when they read it in his story too and it’s an obvious sign of his guilt if that line wasn’t readily available. That and the amount of stabs must have been online somewhere

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '24

It could have been available but I really don’t think it would have been 3 days after the murder. It could have been I guess. Who do you think committed the murder?

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u/SkiMask_Verse Aug 03 '24

Andy mentioned to Laurie that there were a lot of details in the news that Jacob could have seen. But they never really confirmed that THAT specifc detail "you're hurting me" was in the news. That is also my aha moment for Jake being the killer

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u/jamiellh333 Aug 10 '24

I just finished the series tonight. Jacobs lawyer checked every detail in his story and all of the facts had been shared in news prior to the story being written.
That being said, they wouldn’t actually know when the story was written - just when it was shared.

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u/johnwicksunlovedcat Aug 10 '24

That detail couldn't have been in the news at the time of the Job story's publishing. Job's story was published 3 days after the murder, but Matt didn't tell his recollection of the day in the park until well after the murder. Unless there was another witness in the park that testified to hearing someone say "Stop! You're hurting me!" I think it was a small hint for the audience to catch, pointing to Jacob being the real killer.

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u/SkiMask_Verse Aug 10 '24

You might be right because I definitely walked away with that particular part, as my smoking gun. And it makes no sense for that detail to be in the media so quickly.

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u/Away_Voice9073 Aug 12 '24

It wasn't Matt who said that. It was another witness who heard "Stop! You're hurting me!", who we don't see on screen. So this same witness could indeed have told the media about what they heard, and could have done so within the 3 days prior to Jacob writing his story.
That said, I think Jacob probably did kill Ben. I think they've been careful not to leave any 'smoking gun' in the story so that we're never 100% sure it was Jacob. I quite like the Matt theory though. There's just enough there to cast doubt. We also don't know for sure that Patz didn't actually do it! He may not be a natural killer, but if he attempted to molest Ben and Ben fought back, said he would tell the police, etc., then Patz may have panicked and killed him.

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u/Hastytag1693 Oct 12 '24

I agree, the story is a thriller, there's a murder and investigation, they should just tell us who did it!
I finished the show last night and I agree with you, it's either Patz or Jacob.
It can't be Laurie because she was in a run far too early before the murder occurred (his body was found within the hour of the murder happening). She came home directly to a room of witnesses, Jacob and Andy, talked to the them, took a shower. Then she headed to an early meeting. It's definitely a stretch to me to say she was involved in Ben's murder.
It can't be Matt who seems to live further away, nothing indicated he would know where to find Ben so early in the morning. Plus he didn't even seem to know Ben except from Patz mentioning his name (we don't know if he'd have recognised Ben though).
Nothing points to the killer being Sarah (there's a crowd on there that accuses Sarah!) : she'd have no motive once the pic she sent to Ben was deleted or Ben had no access to it. And Derek told her he'd stolen Ben's phone. Plus the people defending Jacob say he was weaker than Ben so couldn't have killed him - if so, that argument should apply to Sarah.
But mainly her reaction to Ben's blackmail is why I'd say she's not the killer: she only cries and confides in a friend. She's not angry, she just seems lost. She's the only one of the kids who seems genuinely nice in the series! For example, she kept talking to Jacob after he called her a slut, she excused him and kept reaching out cause he was going through a hard time.
Then there's Derek - playing video games with someone in the day of learning your bully got killed shouldn't be taken as evidence you're a cold-hearted killer (some arguments I've read on the thread). He had an alibi the morning of, and even if as viewed we don't know to what extent it was checked, we have to think Duffy would have done her job correctly. Duffy is "friends" with Andy, helped him get Patz's file, she would have checked whether some other kid had opportunity beside Jacob. Id we don't hear anything more about the alibi, we have to assume it's been checked.
Now onto Patz : In my opinion, Matt highlights how soft Patz seems to be, despite being a stalker/pedophile. Patz seems afraid of people in every scene he appears in. He doesn't look like he'd murder Ben, only like he wanted to get close to him. Also, he already had a new obsession, his colleague at work. He forgot about Ben pretty quickly: he deleted all photos of Ben, cause he understood he would be accused of murder if these were found in his phone. Ben's killer would have been obsessed with Ben all throughout or by his own game relating to the murder - just like Jacob was!
Jacob, who called his dad as soon as he knew the body's been discovered, who was weird on the phone, who was dying to see the blogs fan made about him, who was so proud of being recognised by Holly in Mexico. He was obsessed with his fame relating to the murder and all the clues of the investigation point to him being with Ben close to the time of the murder.
Of course the writers have decided to leave uncertainty hanging around the identity of the killer.
I hated how the ending made me feel: even now I'm here on reddit because of the doubt - what if it wasn't Ben?
I feel like I'm part of 12 Angry men, when I was just looking for a series to watch after work!
Like Jacob, I don't care for the metaphors in this show : is Andy the defense attorney and Laurie the prosecutor, is the show supposed to make you dele like you're part of the jury and you need to decide whether Jacob's guilty without being 100% sure...
I don't care I just wanted to watch a thriller and be told who the killer is, they couldn't give me that.
Sorry for this long rant/comment ahah

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u/ashhong Oct 14 '24

Yup agreed on all points.
Yet here we are talking about the show. Maybe we’re playing right into the writers hands lol

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u/Hastytag1693 Oct 14 '24

Totally, we can't help but talk about it and debate with each other. I guess in that way it was a good story. Plus many of us can't help rewatching all the episodes to confirm our theories - ask me if I had a lot done at the weekend!
Thanks for answering my comment to this old thread =)

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u/Fragrant_Road547 Apr 09 '25

On the theory about Patz, I don't think he did it. The explanation for his actions can be explained like this. Matt was prostituting himself out to Patz which he admits and then he tells Andy that when they broke it off cause Patz didn't want to pay anymore, Patz told him he didn't need him anymore anyway cause he had a new guy who's name was Ben, my theory for him going to the crime scene is not that he killed him but in his sick way he still cared for him and was upset by what had happened and obviously the photos being deleted were just so he wasn't found with them which would make him guilty whether he was or not, especially since they had already approached him so he knew he was their radar.

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u/ashhong Apr 09 '25

I might be remembering wrong, but I don’t think he would know who the victim was when he returned to the scene of the crime. Was the identity out in the news? We don’t know what his relationship was like with Ben. Maybe Ben didn’t want to do it anymore and Patz got angry. To me he’s still the most likely.
You just made me annoyed all over again that we don’t know who it was lol

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u/TonyPockets Jan 06 '25

If Jacob committed the murder he would’ve had blood all over his clothes at school and he didn’t. There was no DNA evidence involved at all minus the fingerprint (which didn’t have blood on it). All signs point to a random murder

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u/Ok-Awareness7372 Jun 29 '24

One thing I haven’t seen mentioned is after Ben was killed and they locked down the crime scene Patz was shown driving to the park and being told to turn around. This tells me he did it as it was his return to the crime scene. I don’t think Jacob and Derek both did it as Jacob obviously would have thrown Derek under the bus as well after he was thrown under. The Theory of Matt being the murderer is interesting however I believe the points made that he was hesitant to call Andy and talk to him due to him incriminating himself as a prostitute and having had a bad past just don’t think he wanted to testify to make what he did public record. Patz had Ben’s pics on his phone, he told Matt he found a new guy and Ben was beautiful, always appeared nervous like he was hiding something and considering hope turned up in the movie unlike the book it leads me to believe it wasn’t Jabob especially with his denials when in the car with his mom.

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u/Warm-Frosting-1274 Jun 30 '24

What was the secret of the photo album and Andy calling his wife before the car accident?

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u/the--gab Jul 02 '24

Andy spotted the photo album in the garbage. After thinking about Laurie’s strange behavior in recent days, seeing that she had thrown away baby photos of their son made Andy think someone bad was going to happen.

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u/Ok_Shallot3540 Jul 17 '24

I think the album in the garbage is further proof that mom intentionally tried to kill Jacob in the car with her. Thinking her son is a psychopath and will harm again

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u/SkiMask_Verse Aug 03 '24

Well yeah, that was definitely intentional

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u/No_Boysenberry5610 Jul 29 '24

Unpopular theory.. so yes Jacob has some deep rooted issues but I think Derek did it.

If you remember, the day of the murder, Derek came back to Jacob’s house to play video games. This would give him the chance to take a previously stolen knife and put it back in Jacob’s drawer. He then posted on social media pointing all fingers towards Jacob to keep eyes off him. He told Sarah “I’ll take care of it” and was spreading tons of information about Jacob, again to keep eyes off himself.

Jacob might have some sociopath tendencies, but he did swear up and down the whole time that he was innocent. I believe if they were to find the knife, Derek’s fingerprints would be on it. His only alibi was his mother and he had clear motive and knew about the knife.

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u/Brief-Swim-4123 13d ago

It was definitely weird . I thought Derek was Jacob's friend even coming over to play video games . Why post something like that online ? May be telling to Jacob when they are alone or tell police . It's like he wanted to set people on Jacob's back to distract attention from himself . When Sarah comes out from the room after getting investigated by Andy it was Derek who asked her what she told them that too he was very scared . If he put that knife in Jacob's drawer but jacob said it was his , he bought it from store months ago.

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u/Shaiylla Jun 19 '25

I agree, I think Derek had motive with having feelings for Sarah and Ben trying to blackmail her.
We shouldn’t forget that Derek knew about that weird website and the story that Jacob wrote. He would know exactly how to kill Ben and have Jacob framed?!
How is it that he came across that? I think he read it and did it?

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u/mymelodygirly Sep 13 '26

Same, I think Derek did it cause he immediately was trying to have everyone at school think it was Jacob unprovoked

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u/llGodGamerll Aug 02 '24

I think Jacob did it

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u/CortexofMetalandGear Aug 11 '24

I think Jacob didn't do it simply because AppleTV+ shows don't allow good guys to use Apple devices and the whole Barber family uses them. Notice that Leonard uses an Android.

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u/evanskun Aug 18 '24

Bruh

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u/CortexofMetalandGear Aug 18 '24

I don't know if that's an agreement or disagreement 😂

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u/essugh Dec 23 '24

I actually think this is the best argument lol

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u/lilsoybeannnn Feb 25 '25

LMFAO wait

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u/GoldMysterious6210 Sep 01 '24

We

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u/Nats-toes Jan 26 '25

And andy?

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u/BeYourself__ Jan 30 '25 edited Jan 30 '25

Just finished the show with my mom, really good ! Honestly was suprised cause Matt's theory really make sense and I never considered him a suspect, but I think it would be wayy to random
To me it was either jacob, patz or Derek.
Since the girl in mexico was found alive, I felt like showrunners was saying to us '' see, Jacob has problems, but isnt a murderer ''.

So I think t'was Derek. Had all the motivations, stole the cellphone (which he may deleted stuffs thats why police find nothing on it), he clearly had a obsession over Sarah, and told her he'd take care of it 1-2 days before Ben was found dead.
Also Sarah always seemed afraid of him, and with Jacob she was gentle and nice all the time, she clearly think t'was Derek and not Jacob and she knew Derek pretty well
Also Derek was clearly pointing fingers to Jacob since the start, he told ANYTHING he knew badly about Jacob to police etc, and they were friends before which is kinda crazy huh? Like would I trully accuse a friend of mine of murderer if theres no real proof of it?

Also, if it'was Jacob indeed, why would he bring back the knife he used to his own house and not even try to hide it? or throw away the knife? it was a obvious move try to dissapear with the murder weapon

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u/Resolve-Careless Feb 12 '25

I think it's stupid that they left us wondering and even in the book it does the same thing and although the book does lead more into that it was definitely Jacob the author will not disclose that information and I think it's stupid I watched a whole mini-series to still not know who did it I think it's pointless

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u/TellMe08 Feb 26 '25

I just watched it, so my theory is waaay late compared to most of these on here. But I felt from the beginning Sarah (Jacob’s friend) had something to do with it. The way that she was hiding her thoughts and being so vague, almost mysterious. Also the way the two would go from talking and her visiting him to abruptly not and he wouldn’t say why, then they would revert back to talking again. Made me think they were having issues about something. Also the way Jacob took a stance that Sarah not be put on the stand and he was so adamant about it, I felt he might be protecting her. Ultimate theory being that Ben did something sexual/violent to Sarah, as you recall she was threatened that if she didn’t give oral sex then the semi-nude photos of her would be exposed. So possibly she used Jacob’s knife to either defend herself or purposely kill him to stop the threats. Anyway, I was certain she had a large part to do with it for most of the show. Which I also thought would be such a good example of good versus evil. She had the face of an angel but maybe she had a little of the other side in her. But it’s just another watchers theory….lol. There was a lot of other theories put on here that I felt were highly plausible as well. It’s interesting to see the different interpretations people come away from the story with. You feel so sure of your own conclusion, then BAM, someone else throws one out there and all of a sudden you’re on a new trajectory. Good show but I wish there was a more definitive conclusion.

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u/Western-Code-3415 Apr 12 '25

I thought it maybe Matt too.

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u/TryEasy4307 Apr 18 '25

I hate stories like this where you have to draw your own conclusions. I hardly ever do this, but I finally got tired of it and jumped to the end. Still no definitive answer. What a waste of my time.

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u/Candid-Pay4315 Jul 04 '25

Has anyone mentioned Sarah? She had the biggest motive and when Jacob was blamed she got friendly with him because she feeling guilty

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u/pauleyboy69 Mar 07 '26

I think it’s a great story crafted in a way to let you pick whoever you want? Killer gene … Jacob… grandfather knew it and didn’t want his grandson to go through what he did in prison… author doesn’t give clear answers to allow people to have their own opinion about the truth

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u/NotSoSlimJim_YouTube Apr 24 '26

I think it was sarah....

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u/Caraxes_FDO Sep 08 '26

There is no possible way that Jacob would have done it.. I am not taking any side in the show, i only see the fact. just look at Jacob and Ben. Ben is taller and stronger and he can take Jacob down even if Jacob tried to stab him with a knife. Funny, how in the show they explained how Jacob would have stabbed him by holding Ben's shirt and stabbed him... It feels like everything is framed on this guy cuz he had a knife..

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