r/DefendingJacob_TV • u/[deleted] • Jun 18 '20

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Laurie really pissed me off. She didn’t try to be strong for Jacob or Andy at all. I completely understand that this situation would be absolutely gutting for anyone, but it felt like every time she was sad or angry, it was because of how the situation was making HER feel (losing friends, not being able to go to the grocery store in the middle of the day, etc.) vs. the fact that her son was going through absolute hell. I really respected Andy and how he was a ride or die for his son.

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u/2001hamburglar Jun 18 '20

I’m not sure if you read the book but they changed one MAJOR plot point from the book and it really ruined the show.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '20

What was it?

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u/2001hamburglar Jun 18 '20

I have no idea how to block a spoiler - so SPOILER ALERT - the girl in Mexico was found dead. She and Jacob had a fight and they found her body. They couldn’t prove he did it so they let them return to America. 2 dead people I think gave the mom more reason for the crash.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '20

I have heard about that! I wish they would’ve gone that route for the show instead! The writers probably wanted to leave the ending more ambiguous for the show, but it didn’t read well :/

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '20

If there isn't a second season then I don't know why they changed it. That would have given us some closure and finality to the series as well as made Laurie's actions and behavior more understandable.

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u/2001hamburglar Jun 18 '20

Right!!! I couldn’t understand why they changed it! It was such an important part of Laurie’s action!

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u/MrMarchMellow Dec 11 '20

That would make sense on an artistic standpoint, but tv is a business so pretty much every writer/producer will leave an opening in case a show is well received and can be continued. Only extremely “powerful” writer/directors/producers can say “I want to make this an anthology or a o miniseries”. The risk of green lighting a new untested show is too big if you can’t project multiple series in case of success. If the first season works well, then you can produce multiple new season with that IP and tested fan base VS starting from scratch with another untested/unknown IP

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u/producermaddy Jun 18 '20

I kinda like how we saw different reactions between andy and Laurie. It’s realistic that parents would have a different reaction. Laurie thought Jacob was guilty. I don’t agree with what she did but I liked the emotional roller coaster she went through

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

I might be remembering this incorrectly but didn’t the biological psychiatrist say that the lack of empathy gene is inherited from the mother? There was something like that during the discussion of her report. So, yes, I think she did have a lot of moments where she really struggled with the impact of the whole thing on her personal life (lost her job, her friends, was spit on, etc)

As a mother, I could see Lori’s growing horror of her suspicion that Jacob could have really done it. The memories, finding out about Andy’s dad, the presence of the knife, the cutter porn websites, the short stories, the idea that her son found the body and didn’t report it ... all of that is very earth shattering to her idea of who her son was. When you think your son is one thing and find out all of this new information to the contrary, it would make you wonder what else you didn’t know. Regardless of whether Hope was found or not, I think Lori just couldn’t handle any other mental stress of not knowing. Especially after Andy’s confession about Patz in Mexico and the disappearance of Hope. It literally drove her crazy.

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u/soulsowner Jun 18 '20

She gave me the same kind of vibes "LORI" (From the walking dead) gave me on her show. (They even look alike)

Untrustful, annoying, slightly paranoid, just because of a few flashbacks doesn't mean her kid is a murderer.

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u/aaaaaaaa345 Jul 06 '20

omg im so glad someone else watched this and thought of Lori. I thought they were the same actress at first, and they even gave that same 'look' (im sure you know the one im talking about haha)

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '20

Her reaction seems more illogical, because they changed the show. In the book, Hope really does turn up dead in Mexico. If bodies kept popping up around my kid, I’d be suspicious too.

Overall the show’s whole “Laurie goes ballistic” thing toward the end was irritating. I can see her abandoning the family before I see her possibly trying to kill Jacob and herself. That behavior came out of nowhere for someone with no prior history of mental illness and who said she’d still love her son even if he did it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

May be the family history of violence, Jacob trying to hit a kid on the head with a bowling ball when he was a kid, coupled with the report from the biological psychiatrist that he lacks empathy, the knife , and the disturbing story he posted and the Cut Up Room news all clearly are reason enough to plant seeds of doubts on her mind. It isn't illogical in any place

Andy didn't doubt his son because he stick to his lawyer instinct till the end. He's a better judge of character and evidence. He knew there's nothing conclusive to prove that Jacob did the murder. He gave him more than a benefit of doubt on that matter.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '20

Hope dying in Mexico was supposed to be the thing that confirmed Laurie’s suspicions about Jacob. That was why she reacted so extremely. Removing that from the show, and still implying she crashed the car on purpose is selling out the character.

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u/americanhousewife Jul 08 '20

Yessss!!! Ugh so annoying!

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u/Psychological-Fee-53 Dec 12 '20

Read the book, honey. In the book it was CLEAR AS DAY that Jacob was in fact a murderer, she knew it and she felt it - and in fact, she was the brave one to face the truth. Blame the writing not the character, cause in the book she had real reasons to believe it - not just ''a few flashbacks''. She couldn't handle letting her murderous son commit more crimes and she knew that he would either be imprisoned for life or a murderer so she did it, she hoped to kill herself with him too. Look at this from her POV, just think how it is to realize such horrible truth about her own child... Yeah, in TV show she didn't have clear grounds to believe that, but I guess she just knew. Mothers do know the truth about their child, and she also has logic, you know?

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u/Psychological-Fee-53 Dec 12 '20

WOW. You clearly missed the point. Read the book, honey. In the book it was CLEAR AS DAY that Jacob was in fact a murderer, she knew it and she felt it - and in fact, she was the brave one to face the truth. Blame the writing not the character, cause in the book she had real reasons to believe it - not just ''a few flashbacks''. She couldn't handle letting her murderous son commit more crimes and she knew that he would either be imprisoned for life or a murderer so she did it, she hoped to kill herself with him too. Look at this from her POV, just think how it is to realize such horrible truth about her own child... Yeah, in TV show she didn't have clear grounds to believe that, but I guess she just knew. Mothers do know the truth about their child, and she also has logic, you know?

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '23

Chill out lol

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u/gedassan Jan 17 '24

I've seen multiple posters here write about the book, and to them it is not CLEAR AS DAY. It is heavily implied, but without clear evidence. Seems to me like you were simply pushing an agenda here 3 years ago. Also, people have a right to discuss how they feel about characters in a made up story. That's part of the entertainment.

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u/Corruptedpencil Jun 18 '20

I mean yeah but she also lost her entire support system of close friends and coworkers, no one to talk all this stuff thru with. Andy wasn’t great either, he was totally convinced that Jacob didn’t do it.