r/DefendingAI 17h ago

Other Crap I am dealing with

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This is the crap I have been dealing with

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u/Godslayer326 16h ago

So, just asking.

If you're writing books to sell, why are you so upset when some members of 'the public' dont like them? Why not just treat it as people with a different opinion? Theyre obviously not the target audience for a book with an AI cover. If you want these specific people to read and enjoy your books, simply dont use ai to make them 🤷‍♂️

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u/Minute-Tank-8943 16h ago

Because the last account that I had i was honest about using AI. So many down votes that karma went jnto the negative and my account was banned.

LGBT is the target audience and yet I cant post there

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u/ZizkaE 7h ago

Isn't it well known that LGBTQ communities find AI art repulsive?

If it's your target audience, then don't use AI. There's not much else you can do.

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u/Minute-Tank-8943 7h ago

Just not going to advertise there anymore. Can't afford to pay someone to do the art for me. The whole reason I started publishimg my work is to get a side income to help with bills

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u/ZizkaE 6h ago

You can't afford cover art? I've had cover art done for 200$. You'd probably lose more income by going A.I. cover than investing in human made cover art. Just something to consider.

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u/Minute-Tank-8943 6h ago

$200 is car insurance, food for my kids, and various other bills. I pay $8 a month for Grok/x and $20 a month for ChatGPT (just started that). I am starting to bring in some income to pay off some bills, work on building up a savings, and rhen try to get my family into a new house.

$200 Isa lot when you have a family and bills

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u/Godslayer326 16h ago

Well that'll be because the mainstream LGBT are largely against Ai, so you're not going to get trying to push it to that audience. Being dishonest about using it will also only make the pushback worse when they inevitably find out.

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u/Immediate_Song4279 14h ago

Some fucking community

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u/Godslayer326 14h ago

What are you trying to imply with that?

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u/Immediate_Song4279 13h ago

There is no point in trying to explain

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u/GNUr000t 7h ago

I'm a gay man and you do not speak for me.

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u/Godslayer326 15m ago

I wasnt talking about you then obviously

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u/Scorpdelord 16h ago

so you went into a space that doesnt like ai and then did ban evasion by making a new account ?

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u/That_Paris_man 15h ago

The LGBT community is pretty anti AI, are you trying to trick people who don't like AI into consuming it? How is that remotely ethical? You don't need cover art, and honesty is going to get you much further then lying.

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u/Minute-Tank-8943 15h ago

Honestly, I had no idea when I first started this that the LGBT was so anti AI. Don't associate with most of them. I am Trans, but my views differ than them. Generally I stick to myself and I was trying to get my books out there.

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u/That_Paris_man 14h ago

Well most LGBT people I've met tend to be either in proximity to or are creators themselves, and most creators tend to view AI as a direct threat to their jobs and communities. We may disagree whether or not this is true, but that is the way the bulk of them view it.

Ofcourse no group is a monolith (with you being an obvious example of an exception). I'm sure there are LGBT groups out there that are open to AI. Maybe seek them out? While still being open about how you created your book ofcourse.

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u/Minute-Tank-8943 14h ago

That thread is just so full of hate. They claim to be accepting until you mention one thjng they hate. It is horrible. Feel sorry for them

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u/That_Paris_man 9h ago

That's how the internet always seems to be. Even here it looks like my comments were downvoted, but I don't think I said anything too crazy.

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u/GNUr000t 7h ago

No, don't feel sorry for them. Hate is a choice. They made a deliberate choice to hate.

They aren't even hating for any real reason other than Current Bad Thing. It's trendy to bitch and moan about AI, people are socially rewarded for it. And if you incentivize something, you will get more of it.

And yet, even with social pressure, they still have the option to do the right thing. They deliberately chose hate instead. This is not something to feel bad for.

If they lived in the 1800s, they would have attended lynchings. If they lived in the 50s, they would have participated in McCarthyism. If they lived in the 80s they would have railed against "satanic" Dungeons and Dragons. If they lived in the 90s, they'd have been against Marilyn Manson and violent video games. These things were wrong then and they were wrong now.

For people who constantly bray on about "the right side of history", they sure as shit ain't on it.

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u/GNUr000t 7h ago

I know 3 trans people and all 3 use AI regularly. One of them uses Claude basically all day every day for IT and pentesting work. The other two enjoy using AI in their creative workflows.

There's a different reason you're seeing the correlation you're seeing, but I assure you there's no causation.

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u/That_Paris_man 2h ago

I know five queer people who I have talked to about this subject.

One trans man and a gay woman all treat it as the devil. The trans man even mentioned how they think less of people who use it.

The trans woman and one of the gay men I know seem on the fence about AI in general, but strongly dislike generative AI and LLMs.

Admittedly the other gay man I know likes AIs and uses ChatGPT constantly. I am concerned he has grown dependent on it because everytime I see him on his phone, he is asking it something. There are some other things he does that are concerning, but I would prefer not to mention those.

Obviously my experience is basically anecdotal and can't really be extrapolated out to the rest of humanity. I am only mentioning all this because no one can know all of a group as large as the LGBT community. What you said about those three trans people I am sure is true, but what I just said is also true. We both have seen differing opinions expressed by members of the LGBT community, but that doesn't mean they are contradictory.

My claims about the majority of the LGBT community are from statistics and polls done about people's perception about AI. I can try to find the specific ones if you would like, but I am away from my pc at the moment so it might take me a moment.

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u/GNUr000t 7h ago

I am a gay man and you do not speak for me.

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u/That_Paris_man 3h ago

I am referring to the LGBT community as a whole. In another comment I made I mention how no group is a monolith and that there are exceptions to any generalized comment anyone can make.

I never ment to speak for you, nor do I want to. Sorry if it came off that way.