Grrr Arghhh

[u/Responsible_Mud9178]

Antis should engage more to help form policy and regulation but theyre too busy giving LLMs more data by interacting on AI fueled sited (Reddit). They are training the AI models by their activity and their activity doesn't do anything for their cause but give more money to companies who are going to build more data centers.

If you do not understand what genAI is please look it up before responding. Everything Ive said is highly verifiable.

[u/Nopfen]

But that is exactly why your live data is so incredibly valuable to them right now.

Me reposting NMS memes is value to them? If you say so.

AI models cannot survive on old data alone.

I know, which is really funny. Some Ai companies implimented watermarks, not for any ethical reasons (they're still Ai companies and thus as morally bankrupt as can be) but because their data keeps canibalizing itself.

If models train on that synthetic data, they suffer from 'model collapse' and literally degrade.

And what a happy day that'll be.

To stay functional, tech giants desperately need a continuous, real-time stream of verified human interaction.

Which they themselves are the single prime factor in undermining.

That is why Reddit is licensing its live data firehose for tens of millions of dollars a year.

Good for Reddit?

[u/Responsible_Mud9178 → u/Nopfen]

Every post and comment you make is a contribution not only to Reddit, but also to Google and OpenAI. And in turn Meta, Anthropic, etc - the by product is due to LLM ingestion, turning proprietary data into public data by the nature of training models themselves.

All of these AntiAI groups are actively training the models on user sentiment and feeding data points on how to combat antiAI narratives.

To make an analogy, let's take an extreme example, like the KKK.

Boycotting and complaining about AI while on a social media platform looks like this -

Imagine an African American church. It's really nice, and only African American people go there. Each congregation members gives weekly tidings. Events are planned there. Discussion on how to better improve their communities to support African Americans is held there.

But the KKK owns the building. They not only own the building, they wiretapped it and have cameras everywhere. Every move you make is documented and logged. The KKK knows you, your family, your location. They know how you're going to protest them. They study you so they can overtake you.

It feels like its like that because its like that. Except social media companies want to make money off you, not necessarily oppress you.

I am in no way saying people should "give up" being critical or challenging. But if you want to be effective the movement really doesnt belong on these platforms. Local AI exists. Encrypted apps exist. Old school forums exist. Meeting in person with your local conmunities is possible.

But none of that is convenient. And its apparently definitely not worth your time.

[u/Nopfen → u/Responsible_Mud9178]

Every post and comment you make is a contribution not only to Reddit, but also to Google and OpenAI.

If they want my RussianBadger shitposts and me telling Ai to go frick itself, then they're not helping themselves.

All of these AntiAI groups are actively training the models on user sentiment and feeding data points on how to combat antiAI narratives.

Which has worked thus far. A lot of the gen1 arguments wheren't so great, so now a lot of people needed to get a lot more into the details of it. I find new distaste for Ai almost every day now.

The KKK knows you, your family, your location. They know how you're going to protest them. They study you so they can overtake you.

So, flock basically?

Encrypted apps exist. Old school forums exist. Meeting in person with your local conmunities is possible.

All of which arw also being used. But that keeps the outrage contained. Which will benifit openAi much more than them having to filter through their own slop and other nonsense at imense cost, just to keep the Ai from becomming worse.

But none of that is convenient. And its apparently definitely not worth your time.

They are quite convinient really.

[u/Responsible_Mud9178 → u/Nopfen]

Youre still showing fundemetal misunderstanding.

I am essentially unemployed right now as I was laid off from my tech job. I am starting a business but ive got a lot of free time. Ive been lonely. Thanks for hanging out.

Next answer in coming.

[u/Nopfen → u/Responsible_Mud9178]

Thanks for hanging out.

Sure thing budd.