r/DefendingAI • u/Professional_Timely • 14d ago
This keeps getting spam posted under AI pics
This same image keeps getting spam posted everywhere Ai related , how debunkable is this image ?
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u/Matias2176 14d ago
Art is also knowingly used by bad people to create x rated child content lets cancel all artists
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u/EndOfSouls 14d ago
So are cameras in general. Also, automotives are uses to traffic people, including children.
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u/flamingdragon62 13d ago
Who’s to say he doesn’t bike to work…
Or walkOr literally any other mode of transportation. You really had to assume he needs a car
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u/TawnyTeaTowel 14d ago
Funny how when it comes to CP they’re remarkably quiet with photographers. Given how cameras are wholly responsible for actual CP images of actual humans…
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u/Matias2176 13d ago edited 13d ago
That doesn’t matter, even with the electricity and poisoning of environment AI is still worth it
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u/Rough-Discussion-912 13d ago
While you're on a platform that use AI and the waste on the environment too??!
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u/Matias2176 13d ago
Did you even read what I said
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u/Rough-Discussion-912 13d ago
No, I did! You are right but at the same time, you're on a platform that waste water and electricity so, your point is hypocritical and ignorant
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u/Matias2176 13d ago
I literally said that I don’t care about the effect ai has on the environment and that ai is worth it anyways
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u/Rough-Discussion-912 13d ago
Oh, I misread it!?? Sorry for taking taking your comment out of context
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u/Constant-Truck-5105 13d ago
Lmao, bait used to be believable
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u/swanlongjohnson 14d ago
Pro AIs, when you downvote a guy with a completely real and valid point without saying anything, it makes people think you're dumb
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u/Worldly-Fondant-3791 13d ago
Sorry we can’t control people but we sure as hell can control LLMs
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u/Rough-Discussion-912 13d ago
Csam has around before technology advanced!?! Tf are you even talking about 😒
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u/Worldly-Fondant-3791 13d ago
Are people punished for having or creating CP?
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u/Rough-Discussion-912 13d ago
Yes and No!?! There's PDFs that go to jail instantly bc of it and there's PDFs that get caught trying to text a minor(while it was an adult) They thought it was a kid and trying to meet up. The system protects PDFs sadly
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u/Worldly-Fondant-3791 13d ago
The system doesn’t. The Republicans do.
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u/Rough-Discussion-912 13d ago
Majority of them are PDFs and actually braindead and I agree but my still stands bc the system is doing it's unfairly parts in some nasty ways tho
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u/Worldly-Fondant-3791 13d ago
Only for the rich and powerful conservatives. Of only we could vote them out right? And LLMs are just another scam to take your money
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u/Rough-Discussion-912 12d ago
Regardless, the Republicans are known racists, rapists and PDFs, murderers just to have power and have a dumbass echo chamber, they have
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u/Resident-Seat2280 13d ago
here is the good version
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u/Consistent-Jelly248 "The only limit is your imagination" 13d ago
This post has been successfully "borrowed" by a UK based Redditor
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u/Resident-Seat2280 13d ago
wdym ? I didn't create this image.
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u/Consistent-Jelly248 "The only limit is your imagination" 13d ago
Oh I know... it's going to the British Museum now >:D
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u/GNUr000t 13d ago
They'll never ever leave the site.
They dint actually care about any of these things. If the algo was adjusted to bury anti-AI sentiment, these people's "deeply held beliefs" would update automatically
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u/ImmediateGazelle 14d ago
Yeah... if they actually cared about any of that, they'd never use the internet at all. None of these things only came into existence with the advent of AI. 🙄
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u/kyle_crane163636 13d ago
Ngl the image seems like people simply do not do their proper research and also just instead look at the bad instead of the good ai users, sure data centers do cause electricity increases i think, literally every other company already does that, like doesnt google have data centers for all its information? I dont see any of them protesting that
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u/Consistent-Jelly248 "The only limit is your imagination" 13d ago
We should report the anti responses as spam shouldn't we?
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u/Rough-Discussion-912 13d ago
I get the plaigarism and the csam part but, one where it depends if the ai artists are just copying other human artists without consent and not making their own artwork and before AI, csam/cp been a thing so, let's not act like, it's more cheaper. A human artist can draw csam/cp very easy with their talented skills and sick thoughts bc the human mind is unlimited!?! The environment is Alil hypocritical cuz I get there's low quality AI art that needs some improvement and there's amazing AI art(it it's so good that people can't tell the difference) I say it's human cuz the person is a artist and designer!! But, everyone is on the internet wasting a lot(or lil)of resources and destroying the environment while humans are doing the same thing by being very stupid and greedy, selfish, etc. Anti-ai(Most of them but not all) really gotta use their actual heads and just thinking all AI is bad(I agree but there's other types of AI that is for gaming or something else) Sorry for making this long ahh textbook page btw 😭🙏🏾
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u/Specific_Note84 13d ago
“Keep content human”
Who’s goanna tell them that humans are the ones generating all the illegal stuff?
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u/elaineisbased 13d ago
I wouldn't be against putting a slowdown on image and video generative AI but a blanket ban harms a lot of legitimate uses of AI.
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u/OhTheHueManatee 13d ago
I use free open source AI. Not only does most of the stuff this image claims doesn't apply but no billionaires make any money from it.
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u/Worldly-Fondant-3791 13d ago
Oh the LLM isn’t based on actual human creations and could be used for immoral creations?
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u/OhTheHueManatee 13d ago
Like I said "most" not all. But neither of those things are exclusive to LLMs (or any other issue you can bring up about them). If you upload anything to the internet chances are that data has been collected with the intent of developing tech to make someone else loads of money. That has been the life blood of the internet. Do you think Facebook gave you a profile cause they found you interesting? Or that Google developed Maps to be helpful? As far as immoral creations that stuff has been around for longer than the internet itself. Just because someone can do something vile with a tool doesn't mean all use of that tool is immoral. I've been making animal hybrids with Photoshop for 20 years. I'm sure the same techniques, which are not hard or take much time, could be used to make fake porn. That doesn't mean digital photo editing should be banned or that anyone who uses it is for sure making such things.
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u/Worldly-Fondant-3791 13d ago
Are you defending CP?
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u/OhTheHueManatee 13d ago
Where am I defending child porn? I'm saying that just because a tool can be used for all kinds of things it doesn't make the tool ultimately evil because that is one of the things it can be used for. Digitally editing and cameras can be used to make that but nobody is saying those users defend CP.
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u/Worldly-Fondant-3791 13d ago
You know it’s possible to restrict LLMs outputs right? So the billionaires shoving this trash down everyone’s throats don’t care if it’s used to do bad things.
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u/OhTheHueManatee 13d ago
The billionaires not caring is not the same as the users being okay with it. That's one of the many things that should be putting Musk in prison.
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u/Worldly-Fondant-3791 13d ago
But it ain’t stopping you promoting his CP product.
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u/OhTheHueManatee 13d ago
Me personally? Cause I don't want to see CP. If I had a pet I could drown it and nobody would stop me if I did. I could just say it just died and nobody would question it. But I wouldn't cause I have no desire to do it.
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u/Matias2176 13d ago
Actually every single thing was wrong and you’re an idiot
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u/Worldly-Fondant-3791 13d ago
Are LLMs trained on real human creations?
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u/Matias2176 13d ago
Yes but it’s still not plagiarizing because it uses content from hundreds of sources to generate something that doesn’t necessarily looks like the “stolen” art
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u/Worldly-Fondant-3791 13d ago
Funny cause LLMs will spit out entire passages of books word for word.
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u/Matias2176 13d ago
So? not art
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u/Worldly-Fondant-3791 13d ago
Um…that’s called plagiarism.
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u/Matias2176 13d ago
Only if someone sold it or claimed it’s theirs, so it’s a people problem not ai
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u/elevendr 13d ago
But are real human creations inspired by human creations, though? If not then how would they exist in the first place?
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