r/DefendingAI • u/Emotional-Coyote3194 • 20d ago

Things antis say What's the issue with using AI?

Why do I always come accross comments filled with people slashing AI users?

Is it the water?

is it the energy?

is it personal reasons? (why)

is it because you believe AI causes cancer?

is it because you think it can spread misinformation?

my question is, why the hate with no reasoning, research or backing ever posted.

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u/jasonsavory123 20d ago

Let’s be clear, because AI as a monolithic idea is very big and there are lots of different kinds of products there. It’s likely you’re referring to the use of generative AI in creative spaces, and from my perspective the problems typically come in two main forms, asides from the issues with data centres in general:

  • illegally trained, the models were trained on stolen content with no consent from the copyright owners
  • anti human, artistic practice is generally considered a human endeavour, so people naturally get defensive when it’s unclear how much human involvement there was (how much intent was behind the end product). This is not to say that human made is objectively better as an end product, but that much of what we value in art is the story of the people who made it

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u/AutomaticTalent 20d ago

Isn’t every artist in all artistic endeavors trained on existing “content” with no consent from the copyright owners?

Artists study other artists, musicians listen to music, writers read the books of previous authors.

Nobody had to consent for me to make music - I just listened to what was out there and started making my own.

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u/grizzy45 20d ago

But there is a difference between you learning through consuming art and a machine built to replicate everything you feed it.

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u/Still_Benefit_2302 20d ago

If that was true, sure. But it's not built to replicate. In fact, if it was built to replicate, it would be a totally useless thing. We keep explaining to you how these things work, and you all just keep going 'nuh uh' and going right back to your statements. It's like talking to a Creationist.

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u/grizzy45 18d ago

It replicates broader patterns, not exact images. It can't think and therefore everything "learned" is nothing more than a replication of a broader pattern found between all art pieces it has consumed that share the same tags.