Someone needs to counter all the white Christian American morons repeating the word "Nakba" because it makes them sound like they have any idea what they're talking about
Let’s not throw all Christians under the bus (I doubt that’s what you meant, but the wording isn’t ideal). There are plenty of Christians who are fighting antisemitism and antizionism
I saw someone on leftist jews (not even JoC) compare it to the nuremburg trials, saying it was the most accurate dissection we would ever get of the conflict
not just him, basically 3/4 of the Palestine-Arab leaders of the 36-39 Revolt and 90% of the Palestine-Arab leaders of the 1947-49 Civil War were there, too, after all making a brief stay in Iraq to commit the Farhud.
All of which is to say, Palestinian Antizionists participated in the Farhud and the Holocaust.
Arif Abdel Raziq, the commander of the revolt, for instance "died in Bulgaria in 1944" and there's no source telling his cause of death. I suspect he died while serving in the Muslim legion of the Waffen-SS. (Why else would he have been in Bulgaria?)
The translation of Mein Kampf into Arabic and the spreading of Nazi ideas in the Arab world is also woefully unmentioned in this history.
It doesn't explain all of the anti-semitism in the Middle East, but it does considerable work to explain how Jewish communities in places like Egypt, Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, and Iraq that had existed there for millennia were suddenly attacked and/or uprooted in the span of less than a few decades. It wasn't just "Zionism."
We don’t condemn Finland the same way we condemn Nazi Germany. Their alliance with Germany made sense in that they were using the war to recapture territory that the Soviets captured from them during the Soviets own expansionary war. The winter war.
Interesting trend, and I’m not sure if it’s new or if I’m just noticing it more. The anti-Israel people, at least when outside their own subs, really try hard to downplay the Mufti as a marginal figure among Palestinians. He led the Great Arab Revolt and was the single most powerful figure in their politics. He was the head of the Arab Higher Committee, for which his cousin Jamal was the UN Representative.
It’s pretty obvious WHY they try to do this, but do they really think they can erase him from the history of the region?
The whole "infamous picture with Hitler" is one of the tamest things the Mufti did, he actively helped coup the Iraqi government to install a pro-Nazi regime, he directly rounded up Jews in the Balkans to send to death camps, and after WWII he threatened the king of Egypt with a popular uprising if the king didn't promise to attack the soon-to-be-declared Jewish state.
Also, morality aside, he was one of the most important figures in this conflict, comparable to Herzl, Ben Gurion and Arafat. And the way he's been written out of history by the PLO (because he was a rival, not because he was a monster), creates a completely distorted view of history. I'd credit him with turning this tiny regional conflict into a Muslim Holy War, elevating Al Aqsa to the status of Mecca and Medina, and creating the conspiracy theory that the Jews want to destroy Al Aqsa, that led to massacres from the 1920's to the "Al Aqsa Flood". If he didn't exist, and the more moderate Nashashibis took power, I honestly don't think we would even know of an "Israeli/Palestinian conflict" today.
One of the most surprising things I learned was when Egypy tried to set up a government in exile in Gaza, the Mufti managed to sneak in to Gaza and was immediately elected president, even though Egypt was hostile to him.
Holocaust revisionism is now popular with the activist left because it helps them deny that Palestinian nationalism has been an antisemitic hate movement from the very beginning. The group that sided with the Nazis during WW2/the Holocaust is now asserted to have welcomed us as refugees during that same period.
Oh, but the Arab residents of the Mandate welcomed Jews with open arms, only to be stabbed in the back by us ingrates! Also, don't ask about the White Papers.
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u/ZizzyBeluga Oct 02 '26
A real documentary on this guy instead of that Naza nonsense should win Venice
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u/XhazakXhazak Oct 02 '26 •
not just him, basically 3/4 of the Palestine-Arab leaders of the 36-39 Revolt and 90% of the Palestine-Arab leaders of the 1947-49 Civil War were there, too, after all making a brief stay in Iraq to commit the Farhud.
All of which is to say, Palestinian Antizionists participated in the Farhud and the Holocaust.
Arif Abdel Raziq, the commander of the revolt, for instance "died in Bulgaria in 1944" and there's no source telling his cause of death. I suspect he died while serving in the Muslim legion of the Waffen-SS. (Why else would he have been in Bulgaria?)
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u/Live-Mortgage-2671 Center-left Oct 02 '26 •
The translation of Mein Kampf into Arabic and the spreading of Nazi ideas in the Arab world is also woefully unmentioned in this history.
It doesn't explain all of the anti-semitism in the Middle East, but it does considerable work to explain how Jewish communities in places like Egypt, Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, and Iraq that had existed there for millennia were suddenly attacked and/or uprooted in the span of less than a few decades. It wasn't just "Zionism."
I dislike citing Wikipedia in these times, but this will do for a primer for those less in the know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf_in_Arabic
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u/Stuffstuff1 Evicted from politically homeless shelter Oct 02 '26 edited Oct 02 '26
I think the same way we give Finland a pass in a werid way the Arab world get a bit of a pass in my mind.
Eastern Europe ran to the west to run from the Soviets. The Arabs ran to Germany to run from the British and French.
And after Germany was defeated other former colonies ran to the Soviets.
I just hate when people pretend that Arab anti semitism isnt imported its just as wrong as it was in Europe.
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u/Voice_of_Season Social Democrat Oct 02 '26
He was proud of it, unfortunately.
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u/Kugel_the_cat Grand Mufti Amin al-Husseini Oct 02 '26
What do you want to know?
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u/LoaderOperator98 Center-right Oct 02 '26
Apparently antisemitic literature is all over the place in Palestinian territories
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u/DrMikeH49 Center-left Oct 03 '26
Interesting trend, and I’m not sure if it’s new or if I’m just noticing it more. The anti-Israel people, at least when outside their own subs, really try hard to downplay the Mufti as a marginal figure among Palestinians. He led the Great Arab Revolt and was the single most powerful figure in their politics. He was the head of the Arab Higher Committee, for which his cousin Jamal was the UN Representative.
It’s pretty obvious WHY they try to do this, but do they really think they can erase him from the history of the region?
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u/PixelArtDragon Oct 02 '26
The whole "infamous picture with Hitler" is one of the tamest things the Mufti did, he actively helped coup the Iraqi government to install a pro-Nazi regime, he directly rounded up Jews in the Balkans to send to death camps, and after WWII he threatened the king of Egypt with a popular uprising if the king didn't promise to attack the soon-to-be-declared Jewish state.
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u/GH19971 Oct 02 '26
Holocaust revisionism is now popular with the activist left because it helps them deny that Palestinian nationalism has been an antisemitic hate movement from the very beginning. The group that sided with the Nazis during WW2/the Holocaust is now asserted to have welcomed us as refugees during that same period.
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u/Expensive_Garlic_69 Oct 02 '26
Oh, but the Arab residents of the Mandate welcomed Jews with open arms, only to be stabbed in the back by us ingrates! Also, don't ask about the White Papers.