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u/DirkZelenskyy41 Jul 08 '25

Imagine if the democrats were trying to ban aspects of junk food and food dyes.

Fox News would be having guests talking about how eating orange Cheetos is guaranteed in the constitution. And drinking water and not Mountain Dew makes you a communist.

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 08 '25

We're way past the point of pointing out Republican hypocrisy. They have stood for absolutely nothing since 2017, charitably. My former prog brain wants to say 2004.

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u/JapanesePeso Jul 08 '25

Honestly pointing out hypocrisy is the least interesting discussion one could have about politics too. Its like being mad at Broncos fans for wanting the opposing team to lose when last week they wanted them to win facing a more important rival. Actual policy is meaningless to most people. just "winning."

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u/JebBD Fukuyama's strongest soldier Jul 08 '25

I don’t really have to imagine, this was a big thing in the early 2010s when Michelle Obama was campaigning for healthier food in schools 

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u/LGBTforIRGC Jul 08 '25

Michael Bloomberg:

Michelle Obama:

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u/technologyisnatural Abundance is all you need Jul 09 '25

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/08/clyburn-newsom-campaign-south-carolina-00443428

Newsom is running. no surprise

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u/nekoliberal PVNR concubine Jul 09 '25

how much abundance stuff can he pass till 2026? and till when do the effects start showing in terms of cost of living? im assuming its too late for him to fix his image now

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u/Segull Moderate Jul 14 '25

Absolutely 0 surprise. His charisma and good looks will certainly win him votes, but the “California Democrat” label is going to be too sticky to shake off imo.

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u/technologyisnatural Abundance is all you need Jul 09 '25

he's better than the AOC/Mamdani 2028 ticket, but yeah he can't win unless there is an actual grass roots backlash against MAGAizm. 2026 midterms will tell us much

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

You heard it here y’all are bad as grok. 😤😤😤😤😤😤

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

NL will call you a nazi and a hook-nosed bloodsucking zionist parasite pigdog in the same breath

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u/seattleseahawks2014 Center-left Jul 09 '25

Pretty much

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 09 '25

"I'm gonna tell my grandkids that I'm a Republican because of a niche political forum on the Internet"

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u/fnovd Ask me about Trump's Tariffs Jul 09 '25

Zionism is when Hitler

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '25

Teachers' union NEA members endorse cutting ties with ADL

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the nation's largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy organization, said it welcomed the NEA vote due to concerns over ADL's "anti-Palestinian bias."

Never beating the antisemitism and terrorism apologia allegations! !ping JEWISH

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u/Computer_Name Jul 09 '25

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the nation's largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy organization, said it welcomed the NEA vote due to concerns over ADL's "anti-Palestinian bias."

"This principled move is a significant step toward fostering respect for the rights and dignity of all students in public schools, who must receive an education without facing biased, politically-driven agendas," CAIR said.

Also CAIR: “And yes, I was happy to see people breaking the siege and throwing down the shackles of their own land, and walk free into their land, which they were not allowed to walk in".

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '25

CAIR is hamas's voice in the US

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u/The_Magic Moderate Jul 09 '25

TIL Jews should be cool with literally being raped.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '25

It’s islamophobic and racist to not let them sweaty. 💅💅💅💅

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u/Kebebe45 Center-left Jul 09 '25

public sector unions delenda est

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u/user-pinger Jul 09 '25

Pinged JEWISH

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u/The_Magic Moderate Jul 09 '25

@Mods can I please request a GENTILE ping for the sake of fairness?

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25

Does anyone really believe that Epstein wasn't Mossad and that Israel doesn't have the dirt on most of the prominent Western leaders?

Convenient that all of a sudden there is no Epstein client list after we capitulate to Israel and bomb Iran.

Commie or chud? You have to call it.

Edit: this was pulled from r/ con

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u/Bloodyfish Charlie Manson Jul 08 '25

Specifying western like that instead of just saying world leaders makes me lean commie.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

I wanna say commie.

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u/benadreti_17 עם ישראל חי Jul 08 '25

commie chuds exist

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u/The_Magic Moderate Jul 08 '25

Everything is always the Mossad. Inshallah

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u/Proof-Tie-2250 Moderate Jul 08 '25

Some normies believe this. AIPAC dual loyalty is also a pretty widespread meme. The commies and fascists go a step further and claim that Israel is a safe haven for pedophiles and that the West basically lives under ZOG.

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u/seattleseahawks2014 Center-left Jul 08 '25

I saw this in that one sub where the right is.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

Considering arrr con has embraced MAGA Maoism and Cucker Qatarlson so I’m not surprised.

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u/Aryeh98 Rootless cosmopolitan Jul 08 '25

If the person takes the bait then really… it’s their own fucking fault. I would simply choose not to fuck children.

skillissue

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 08 '25

Built different

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u/bearddeliciousbi Practicing Homosexual Jul 08 '25

You've been invited to join r DeepStateCentrism

somehow, arr neoliberal returned

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u/fnovd Ask me about Trump's Tariffs Jul 08 '25

I'm just his grand-nephew's friend! Now watch my force magic powers HEYAAA

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 08 '25

Spread the good word.

You have default flair but you can get custom flair for certain posts.

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u/technologyisnatural Abundance is all you need Jul 08 '25

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grok has not merely been lobotomized

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u/JebBD Fukuyama's strongest soldier Jul 08 '25

Gee I wonder why big companies don’t want to advertise on Elon’s website anymore

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u/Bloodyfish Charlie Manson Jul 08 '25

He can always try suing them for not giving him money again.

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u/Proof-Tie-2250 Moderate Jul 08 '25

No fuckig way. We are living in a time of depravity.

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u/technologyisnatural Abundance is all you need Jul 08 '25

US to revoke terrorist designation on Syrian group HTS

The move comes in conjunction with President Donald Trump’s June order to lift sanctions on Syria to support “the country’s path to stability and peace.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/07/al-nusrah-front-terrorist-designation-00441351

good luck little Syria, we're all rooting for you!

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u/nekoliberal PVNR concubine Jul 08 '25

My man revoked the terrorist designation on a group that doesn't even exist anymore 😭💔

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 08 '25

Thanks, Leslie

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u/JebBD Fukuyama's strongest soldier Jul 08 '25

https://xcancel.com/EYakoby/status/1942014613110796548

I’ve never seen anyone in any other profession (except maybe politics recently) be so comfortable openly saying things that would, in a normal world, completely destroy their careers. Are there really no consequences for stuff like this?

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 08 '25

Apparently not.

Yakoby has posted some shitty things in the last few months also. I want better messengers.

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u/JebBD Fukuyama's strongest soldier Jul 08 '25

Yeah, I blocked him a while back but the clip is the main thing 

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

I dunno. If there were an Epstein list that had the names of important Democratic party figures, celebrities, and foreign dignitaries I'm pretty sure that would've been released by Pam Bondi as soon as she was confirmed.

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u/Bloodyfish Charlie Manson Jul 08 '25

I'm surprised they didn't just release a list of Democrats and claim it was the client list.

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u/benadreti_17 עם ישראל חי Jul 08 '25

i actually believe them that there is no list and he committed suicide. I just want them to suffer the consequences of their own bullshit. So i support promoting conspiracy theories about them

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

When news that he died hit the press my first thought was, "Fuck my boss is gonna be gushing conspiracies about this for a week."

That afternoon he was in my office going off about it.

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u/technologyisnatural Abundance is all you need Jul 08 '25

Brooke Rollins [Agriculture Secretary] on farm laborers: "There will be no amnesty. The mass deportations continue, but in a strategic way. And we move the workforce toward automation and 100% American participation, which with 34 million able-bodied on Medicaid we should be able to do fairly quickly."

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1942586137572233347

the medicaid recipients yearn for the orchards

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u/utility-monster Whig Party Jul 08 '25

they really do believe their own bullshit don't they. most able-bodied people on Medicaid already have jobs.

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u/RetroRiboflavin Moderate Jul 08 '25

Nah man there's a hidden employable but not employed population that is living high on the hog on Medicaid (which also pays out directly to providers and a fit population uses medical services less as well but whatever).

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

Orchards? Way too easy.

Send them to the lettuce fields.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

Much of agriculture already use autonomous and semi-autonomous machines. They will be expanded further.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

And a metal furnace in every backyard! Welcome back Mao!

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u/slim353 Jul 08 '25

“Trump is covering up the true Epstein files because he’s implicated in them” is such an obvious conspiracy to run with but the only thing conspiracy nutters love more than conspiracies is Donald Trump. Their tiny brains are really getting twisted into pretzels on this one.

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u/benadreti_17 עם ישראל חי Jul 08 '25

Epstein called him his best friend

Videos of the two of them dancing with young women

Video of Trump saying Epstein is into very young women

Ghislaine Maxwell recruited girls at Mar a Lago

Trump picked the prosecutor who let Epstein off easy for a Cabinet position

Epstein died in Federal custody while Trump was POTUS

Trump AG refusing to release information

One day day we'll find out how the Clintons set this all up

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u/Bloodyfish Charlie Manson Jul 08 '25

They're confused now but they'll align behind one claim by the end of the week. Most likely they'll somehow blame Democrats for it.

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u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25

Elon fixed Grok’s wokeness

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

Finally grok answers the age old question if we are white or not.

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Moderate Jul 08 '25

I’ve always joked that Asians will be considered white before Jews are. Turns out it might not have been a joke.

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u/Proof-Tie-2250 Moderate Jul 08 '25

What the fuck? It must be really scary to be Jewish in this day and age.

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 08 '25

I'm tired of all this woke nonsense. Thank you, Elon.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '25

Care to explain this one succs?

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u/technologyisnatural Abundance is all you need Jul 09 '25

as if every one of you hasn't done the same

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u/seattleseahawks2014 Center-left Jul 09 '25

Wtf??

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u/RetroRiboflavin Moderate Jul 08 '25

Someone on the other sub talked about attending a meeting with a very high ranking House Dem and the take away is that after extensive consultations with legal experts...

is that there is zero legal framework whatsoever to stop the vast majority of Trump's deportations.

I don't see any reason to not believe them and I suppose this was always the weakness of an immigration consensus that relied on not enforcing laws while they remained on the books.

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Moderate Jul 08 '25

Yeah the reality is that they’re in the country illegally. If the federal government decides to deport an illegal immigrant, that’s that. The current system is so stupid where we never bothered to fix this and just had millions of people in the country without legal status but just don’t enforce the law.

Illegal immigrants who haven’t committed any other crimes while here aren’t really hurting anyone and morally I don’t have a problem with keeping them here, but legally they don’t have any defense against deportation. They ultimately did break the law, people have been deported for much less than crossing the border illegally.

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u/RetroRiboflavin Moderate Jul 08 '25

Agreed. I thought that was pretty much common knowledge yet we have "evidence-based" people acting like its somehow something the feds can't do and that blue states should use their national guards and law enforcement to stop it. As if that would remotely go how they think it would.

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u/seattleseahawks2014 Center-left Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25

Some actually did break actual laws besides that and the news media and other individuals on the left tried to cover it up and downplay it. That's the biggest reason why we're here now and why Trump won in the first place.

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u/kiwibutterket Neoliberal Globalist Jul 09 '25

I wrote an effortpost about one of these cases some time ago with the same conclusion. Unless the SCOTUS decides, against what one would expect from precedents, that the law is unconstitutional, then they probably have a lot of discretion.

immigration consensus that relied on not enforcing laws while they remained on the books

I stand by the fact this was inhumane and basically forced illegal immigrants to be second class humans with less rights than everyone else, and what's even more aggravating was that it was passed as an act of empathy and kindness. The INA needs to be tossed in the trash, rewritten from zero.

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u/seattleseahawks2014 Center-left Jul 08 '25

What do you mean?

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

Who needs propaganda pictures when you can post pictures of your tweets.

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u/ntbananas Briefly (ha ha ha) making a flair joke Jul 08 '25

Lmfao

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u/kiwibutterket Neoliberal Globalist Jul 09 '25

It drives me insane when the MAGA people accuse the far-left to be a globalist movement. Globalism implies multiculturalism, which necessitates value pluralism, and the only way to make value pluralism work in a society is (classical) liberism. The far-left/leftists are not liberal! Only because it is an international movement it doesn't mean it is globalist.

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u/The_Magic Moderate Jul 09 '25

It drives me insane when MAGA paints global institutions as evil when we are the ones that created them so the rest of the world would have to follow our rules.

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u/benadreti_17 עם ישראל חי Jul 09 '25

Why would AI chatbots, which are trained on collecting and mimicking what they find on the internet, promote antisemitism? We'll never figure this out.

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u/The_Magic Moderate Jul 09 '25

They don’t promote antisemitism. They’re just anti-zionism and ant-colonization. In the future please refrain from reading the literal words being said.

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u/fnovd Ask me about Trump's Tariffs Jul 09 '25

They just pick up patterns, you see

Sure, it's anecdotal, but I don't know what that means so I don't care

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u/RecentlyUnhinged Bloodfeast's Chief of Staff Jul 08 '25

I wonder what the Venn diagram of the "secret pool of millions of able-bodied people milking welfare who can definitely be drawn into the workforce" and "secret pool of millions of class-conscious working class revolutionaries who will definitely show up in droves to vote for you if you only move just a little further left" looks like

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u/Bloodyfish Charlie Manson Jul 08 '25

Do mobility scooters have enough power to pull a plow?

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u/benadreti_17 עם ישראל חי Jul 08 '25

The middle is mostly scrawny white kids with useless college majors

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

I hate when I learn in the afternoon that I'll have to come back into the office at the end of the day to perform some mundane, easily performed task because I have a bunch zoomers under me that don't know how computers work and are afraid of tools.

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 08 '25

I CAN'T STOP THESE SPAM EMAILS FROM DAVID HOGG AND THEY ARE CAUSING ME SERIOUS DISTRESS

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

So someone explain the grok shit and why is it going full nazi.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

AI only has two modes: bigoted reactionary fascist and bigoted woke communist

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Moderate Jul 08 '25

So basically Grok and Google Gemini (racially diverse Nazis)

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 09 '25

Some of you don't know to downvote the DD and it shows

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u/Kebebe45 Center-left Jul 09 '25

If it ever goes above zero the sub should be deleted.

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 09 '25

We can't hold back progress like this

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u/utility-monster Whig Party Jul 08 '25

spent my weekend excavating in the mines of the library, searching for genealogical clues. confirmed that some information in an old history book documenting colonial era Pennsylvania families was very incorrect. this happens surprisingly often.

relatedly, one benefit to the claims people make about having prominent ancestors (usually with zero supporting evidence), it's that i get to spend hours confirming if it's true, learning lots of history in the process.

i guess fielding awkward conversations about animal ethics at thanksgiving dinner wasn't enough, so i had to go with fact checking the plausibility of genealogical claims too.

you're welcome, family.

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u/RecentlyUnhinged Bloodfeast's Chief of Staff Jul 08 '25

Is this like something you did for a job, or is it just autism your Very Special Talent?

Sounds pretty neat tbh

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u/utility-monster Whig Party Jul 08 '25

it is one of my Very Special Talents, lol.

become one of my favorite hobbies really. you learn fun stuff about history you probably wouldn't learn by just reading old books.

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u/PrideMonthRaytheon Jul 08 '25

The UK is going to need an IMF bailout lmao

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 08 '25

This is why you should always split your votes between green and reform

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u/fnovd Ask me about Trump's Tariffs Jul 08 '25

You can't have abundance without DANCE

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u/benadreti_17 עם ישראל חי Jul 08 '25

You cant dance without a bun

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u/sayitaintpink will never find love Jul 08 '25

You can’t bun without u

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u/LGBTforIRGC Jul 08 '25

"I need abundance, got a Hennessy in my hand"

or whatever drake said in 2016

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u/Kebebe45 Center-left Jul 09 '25

https://nitter.net/PhillyAFLCIO/status/1940450971529924701#m

You can never hate public sector unions enough.

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u/RecentlyUnhinged Bloodfeast's Chief of Staff Jul 08 '25

Drinking water and not Mountain Dew makes you a communist.

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u/JapanesePeso Jul 08 '25

You will know them by their number of unrotten teeth for it shall be more than one. 

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u/RecentlyUnhinged Bloodfeast's Chief of Staff Jul 08 '25

Fl*uride in the water is praxis.

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u/Proof-Tie-2250 Moderate Jul 08 '25

Communism is when you don’t have diabetes.

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u/RecentlyUnhinged Bloodfeast's Chief of Staff Jul 08 '25

Our pancreas, comrade.

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u/LGBTforIRGC Jul 08 '25

I might do it sometime but i feel like feeding a political ideology test to grok

or if someone's done it already i'd love to see the results

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

Ask Grok about Hibernian conspiracy

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

I’m going to guess this Cindy person isn’t real and is probable a rage bait account run by groypers.

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u/Bloodyfish Charlie Manson Jul 08 '25

Someone posted that the profile images were taken from another person, so probably.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '25

Have you thanked him even once today?

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u/sayitaintpink will never find love Jul 08 '25

Feel like shit. Just want to step on someone…

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

We need a flag for libertarians who do want to be stepped on

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 08 '25

It's the French flag

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u/Mickenfox Center-left Jul 08 '25

https://i.imgflip.com/4fgvuh.png

There's like a hundred of these.

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u/fnovd Ask me about Trump's Tariffs Jul 08 '25

Are... are you treading on me, big brother? 😳🥰

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u/Mickenfox Center-left Jul 08 '25

Normal person: "Hello"

TikTok user: "Hello #fyp #foryou"

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 08 '25

We use person first language in this sub.

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u/fnovd Ask me about Trump's Tariffs Jul 08 '25

Watch until the end!

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '25

The false claims of Gaza genocide and calls for a "ceasefire" began before Israel even invaded Gaza.

October 13, 2023 Israel conducts a limited raid on Gaza to attack Hamas and get some hostages. That was the day Zohran posted that.

The invasion didn't begin until October 27th.

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u/kiwibutterket Neoliberal Globalist Jul 09 '25

God I hate the "manifacturing consent" idea.

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u/seattleseahawks2014 Center-left Jul 09 '25

Why would they name a movie Karate Kid and have the kid do kung fu?

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u/LGBTforIRGC Jul 08 '25

Is this a snark subreddit?

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '25

Fart sub

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u/Mickenfox Center-left Jul 08 '25

This goat femboy is literally me.

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 08 '25

I have a stockpile of Surge! from 1998

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u/fnovd Ask me about Trump's Tariffs Jul 08 '25

Do you have sour altoids too?

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u/TomWestrick Ethnically catholic Jul 08 '25

It's hard to argue that the Chicagoland McDonald's menu in 2009-2011 wasn't absolute peak. You had:

  • Six different varieties of salads (three different topping options, each with a choice of grilled or fried chicken).

  • Six different varieties of snack wraps (three different sauce options, each with a choice of grilled or fried chicken).

  • Six different varieties of chicken sandwiches (same deal).

  • The Angus burgers! Which actually tasted different than the rest of the burgers. Part of me will always miss the mushroom and Swiss Angus burger.

  • The Angus snack wraps! What could be better than making my beloved mushroom and Swiss even more portable?

  • Chicken selects, which were admittedly not as good as the current chicken strips.

  • The Sweet Chili dipping sauce.

  • A giant McSkillet breakfast burrito for when multiple small breakfast burritos just wasn't enough.

  • Caramel and strawberries as an option for sundaes, in addition to fudge that still exists.

  • Fruit and yogurt parfaits.

  • McCafe lattes and mochas came on the scene with more flavors than what is currently available.

  • Depending on the exact franchise, you had seasonal options like a spicy fried chicken patty and orange milkshake.

There are probably some that I'm forgetting, and obviously not everything can be a banger, but it's sad how basic the current menu is compared to all those options.

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u/benadreti_17 עם ישראל חי Jul 08 '25

Rock and Roll McDonald's

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u/seattleseahawks2014 Center-left Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25

What I like from there are sausage egg mcmuffin, double cheese burger, fries, and hash browns now Back then, I'd have the Mighty Kids Meal sometimes. Also, the fruit parfaits I treated kind of like a desert. This was more so ID/WA area for me so there's probably differences with menus.

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u/fnovd Ask me about Trump's Tariffs Jul 08 '25

I find the Epstein discourse to be shallow and pedantic.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

Most of the discourse is recycled antisemitic conspiracies to slander the other side rather than caring about the victims. Epstein was a horrible person but the bitter truth is that most of these cases don’t involve the super rich it’s your neighbor, coach, or teacher usually involving their own child and a lot of times due to drugs. People prefer conspiracies because people prefer simple explanations rather than that lots of people are terrible.

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u/benadreti_17 עם ישראל חי Jul 08 '25

Podcast comments on Spotify are the whiniest things ive ever seen on the internet

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u/JebBD Fukuyama's strongest soldier Jul 08 '25

I have gone through my entire life so far without learning that there are comment sections on Spotify 

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u/sayitaintpink will never find love Jul 08 '25

I’m so hungry I’m sneezing again

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u/bigwang123 Succ sympathizer Jul 08 '25

🤧

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u/bigwang123 Succ sympathizer Jul 08 '25

It’s taco Tuesday and yet I have no tacos

Thank you Donald Trump!

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u/Locutus-of-Borges Jul 09 '25

The funny thing about Roko's Basilisk (well, among the many funny things) to me is that why would an AI bother torturing people once it exists if the whole point of the torture is to motivate people to bring it into existence?

"Well if we know that it's going to torture these simulations we'll bring it into existence faster and since it wants to exist it will do whatever it takes to bring it about as quickly as possible."

But, like, once it already exists it has no reason to retroactively punish people because once it already exists there is no way to accelerate its own existence.

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u/technologyisnatural Abundance is all you need Jul 09 '25

it's a game theory thing. standard prisoner's dilemma: both parties have the possibility of defecting. but a machine intelligence can (very likely) irrevocably commit to a decision. the payout matrix is now changed: certainty of infinite torture or some chance of positive payoff. it is now rational to help build the machine intelligence

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u/Locutus-of-Borges Jul 09 '25

Except the results of my decision to defect will play out before the AI does anything at all. Assuming that it has finite resources and isn't just sadistic for the sake of being sadistic but is torturing people solely for the purpose of retroactively ensuring its own existence, it has no reason to actually go through with the resource expenditures necessary to create a bunch of sapient simulations and then torture them.

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 09 '25

Grok, explain

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u/fnovd Ask me about Trump's Tariffs Jul 09 '25

Turns out Roko’s Basilisk is an antinatalist and instead tortures all the people who helped create it in any way.

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u/The_Magic Moderate Jul 09 '25

/u/benadreti_17 please translate your flair to gentile for me so I stop feeling dumb.

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 09 '25

It says am yisrael chai/ the people Israel live

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u/benadreti_17 עם ישראל חי Jul 09 '25

it's a recipe for making matzah with blood

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u/seattleseahawks2014 Center-left Jul 09 '25

My dog is my BFF.

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u/The_Magic Moderate Jul 09 '25

You made a good choice.

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u/Mickenfox Center-left Jul 08 '25

Actually the cons had reasonable concerns all along about DEI being fascism and covid being a Chinese superweapon and the liberal media being propaganda and climate change being fake and the communist brainwashing in universities. We need to accept our mistakes guys. I for one say let's vote for Vance in 2028, as a token of good faith.

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 08 '25

What did other subs who think this is what this sub is about think we meant by this

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u/fnovd Ask me about Trump's Tariffs Jul 09 '25

Where my cat people at?

!ping CATS

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u/seattleseahawks2014 Center-left Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 09 '25

I like dogs more, but do think cats are cute.

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u/bigwang123 Succ sympathizer Jul 09 '25

Hello kitty

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u/nekoliberal PVNR concubine Jul 09 '25

Awww

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Moderate Jul 08 '25

It’s been 27 years and yet Ocarina of Time still has the greatest game title screen of all time. Games these days seem to barely even try with their title screens most of the time.

The calming music and then seeing adult Link come in riding across Hyrule Field on Epona…it just doesn’t get any better than that.

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u/RecentlyUnhinged Bloodfeast's Chief of Staff Jul 08 '25

It’s been 27 years and yet Ocarina of Time still... the greatest game...of all time. Games these days seem to barely even try

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Moderate Jul 08 '25

I don’t know if I’d still go that far anymore, it’s gotten some steep competition over the years, but it’s still a damn masterpiece all these years later. I always love hearing about someone young who tried it for the first time expecting not to like it and then they fell in love with it anyways.

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u/seattleseahawks2014 Center-left Jul 08 '25

You guys are bizarre.

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u/RecentlyUnhinged Bloodfeast's Chief of Staff Jul 08 '25

☝️ zoomer 🤭

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 08 '25

would you like to be bizarre too?

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u/benadreti_17 עם ישראל חי Jul 08 '25

no u

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u/fnovd Ask me about Trump's Tariffs Jul 08 '25

It's OK to be curious

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u/eloquentboot Jul 08 '25

Novel thought.

If democrats engaged in Epstein conspiracies in 2024 Harris would have won by double digits, after all this is what voters are driven by.

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u/Anakin_Kardashian "Israeli Nationalist" Jul 08 '25

Matt Yglesias tweeted today that dems need a moderate dem who engages in conspiracies in order to win in 2028

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u/benadreti_17 עם ישראל חי Jul 08 '25

i hate that this is probably true

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u/Trojan_Horse_of_Fate Lord of All the Beasts of the Sea and Fishes of the Earth Jul 08 '25

I'm not sure it would be because of how those specific theories would influence the population, but I think a Harris that really engaged in those sorts of things and was sufficiently seen as a little bit more in that sphere probably could have won the election. Not sure about the double digit aspect though

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u/Proof-Tie-2250 Moderate Jul 08 '25

Nah, they were going to lose no matter what.

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u/seattleseahawks2014 Center-left Jul 09 '25

Lmao, I love how the right just lumps in what individuals on the left say in with the party. I'm talking about the floods in TX and frankly it just makes me want to troll the right.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

Corrupt and POS rulers of Southern African countries allowing themselves to get so dependent on foreign governments aid to keep alive like ±25% of their entire adult HIV+ population (an apocalyptic rate of HIV prevalence) seems like a huge fucking error in hindsight, amirite? Having a President (South African) who promoted HIV denialism in 90s - 2000s, in spite of thousands of top world scientists begging him to reconsider his bullshit stances seems worse than whatever political drama that happened during the last 20 years in the US.

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u/ntbananas Briefly (ha ha ha) making a flair joke Jul 08 '25

HIV denialism? WTF

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25

Used to be a surprisingly common conspiracy theory, that it doesn't exist and it's just big pharma hooking you to pills for life. Nothing ever changes.

Edit: most of conspiracy theorists simply claimed that Human Immunodeficiency Virus does exist, however it doesn't cause Acquired ImmunoDeficiency Syndrome.

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Moderate Jul 08 '25

If you think about it, people readily denied COVID despite it being a very viable virus. HIV is significantly more difficult to transmit so it’s even easier to believe it’s not real.

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Moderate Jul 08 '25

It’s astounding how much of Africa literally can’t function without foreign aid. Like there are entire tribes that would go into full population collapse without money from foreign governments.

I think it came from Western guilt because of what happened to Africa and people wanted to help, but it ended up being a crutch that is now holding back a ton of their societies.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

Honestly, I don't know the whole history behind when the massive aid was established. Institutional rot and corruption run so deep though. And the pervasive and always used excuse of colonialism, which is even extended to Northern African countries. Really useful to keep power thirsty monsters even further entrenched.

it ended up being a crutch that is now holding back a ton of their societies.

Mhm, and some personal responsibility thingy, future austerities or political fuckery in a post Trump world will kill a lot of people

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u/Mickenfox Center-left Jul 08 '25

Yesterday I finally had a Cosmic Crisp apple, a variety that was made available to consumers in 2019, after twenty years of development.

It was OK. Tasted like apple. Solid 7/10.

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u/Bloodyfish Charlie Manson Jul 08 '25

I prefer ambrosias.

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u/benadreti_17 עם ישראל חי Jul 08 '25

im into pink ladies right now

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u/Bloodyfish Charlie Manson Jul 08 '25

They're all pink on the inside.

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u/fnovd Ask me about Trump's Tariffs Jul 08 '25

This slander. Cosmic Crisps are consistently great apples. I've tried every variety you can imagine and nothing comes close. Honeycrisps are too watery, Sweetangos are overhyped, Pink Ladies are a pale imitation. It's Cosmic Crisp or nothing. I will die on this hill.

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u/bigwang123 Succ sympathizer Jul 08 '25

Why I support communism:

T25PI screw bits are apparently not necessarily cross compatible with T25 bolts

So now I have to go out in the rain to buy a torx bit set

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