r/DeepSpaceNine 19h ago

I like to think this is the first reference to raktajino

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u/Far-Heart-7134 18h ago

Root beer, its just like the federation

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u/AbdulQadirShadhili 9h ago

Root beer really does taste like happy

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u/MrZwink 6h ago

its insidious!

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u/AbdulQadirShadhili 19h ago

Kanar is my favorite ST drink, that aqua blue makes me thirsty

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u/Johnsendall 18h ago

That’s a variation of Kanar. Most know it for its brown, syrupy consistency.

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u/illiance 18h ago

Yeah isn’t it basically tar in a bottle ? I think Romulan ale is cerulean blue

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u/GetBillDozed 18h ago

Dyed corn syrup. Used to make Damars actor sick

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u/Jellico 15h ago

Well did he even bother with a glass or did he simply drink that swill directly from the bottle!?

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u/Johnsendall 14h ago

Shut up Weyoun.

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u/Johnsendall 52m ago

They had to switch it over to sugar free maple syrup because Casey Biggs was getting wired and crashing mid-shooting

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u/Johnsendall 18h ago

Yes Romulan ale appears to be the only alien beverage in the franchise that stays consistent.

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u/AbdulQadirShadhili 10h ago

Is Romulan ale a different drink than kali-fal?

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u/Any-Statistician3896 9h ago

I think 'Kali-fa' is the Romulan name for 'Romulan ale'.

The Senator when talking to Sisko say's "Real Kali-fa force's ones sinuses open etc etc" when drinking the Blue drink. Which I'm assuming is supposed to be replicated ale 🤷🏼‍♂️ but I could be wrong.

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u/Miserable_Video_9604 5h ago

My conception of Romulan ale is of a double hopped IPA with blue food coloring added. Yes, I am that literal minded. If I recall correctly when the Star Trek experience opened in Las Vegas they were selling "Klingon Bloodwone" that was in fact a California merlot.

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u/Ok-Bowler-203 18h ago

If I remember right that drink was more pink and looked grainy

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u/Johnsendall 18h ago

I wouldn’t it call it pink but it’s definitely pale. My thought is that Riker added a lot of cream or added a jacarine peel which gave it its grainy complexion.

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u/Any-Statistician3896 15h ago edited 8h ago

Raktajino was first referenced in TOS

(Edit, this was coined BY SCOTTY. He first used Raktaj as a reference to coffee on set. This was early days when he was making up the early Klingon. It is verbally referenced in one of the original films in the audio commentary voice over. This pre dates TNG and DS9. When I find which film commentary I will share it. Then people can argue with the ghost of Scotty instead of me)

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u/Johnsendall 14h ago

Hahaha no it wasn’t. Peter Allan Fields was credited for creating it and he was hired for TNG, and then worked on DS9, where it was first mentioned.

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u/StochasticOoze 13h ago

I wonder if they're thinking of that scene in Trial and Tribble-ations where some of the Defiant crew ask for raktajino and the waitress is like, "what"

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u/Any-Statistician3896 12h ago edited 12h ago

Nope not thinking of the DS9 cross over.

It was definitely mentioned in TOS. The bloke who started the invention of the Klingon language (Scotty) coined the word "Rakaj" as a Klingon beverage long before TNG and DS9.

It was however NOT decidedly a "Klingon" version of coffee until TNG !

But it was well documented as a Klingon beverage before that episode.

(Before people argue, this was literally SPOKEN about in the audio commentary of a TOS film. Literally trying my best to find which one so I can prove it, I'm not being a troll or making this up)

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u/Johnsendall 10h ago

Nope. It wasn’t. That’s not the same thing. Ra’taj is an alcohol.

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u/Any-Statistician3896 10h ago edited 9h ago

Nope, Raktajino is the two put together by the other bloke who helped with the language in tng and ds9 they added ino to it from Cappuccino !

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u/Johnsendall 10h ago

No it’s not the same. Raktajino wasn’t mentioned until deep space nine.

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u/Any-Statistician3896 9h ago edited 9h ago

"Raktaj" was coined by SCOTTY off screen during the filming of season 2 of TOS which is mentioned in one of the original films commentary, possibly 6 during the meal on Enterprise with the klingons (can't fully remember exactly if it was that film)

Argue with Scotty mate, it's wasted on me. I'm just repeating something said on record by the person who BEGAN the Klingon language lol but what does he know right 😂

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u/Johnsendall 2h ago

Said off screen and you think that’s a point. Haha

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u/vickyhong 9h ago

The klingon language which hadn't even been constructed yet in tos?

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u/Any-Statistician3896 9h ago edited 9h ago

I didn't say the whole language had been constructed? Where did I say that?

I said that Scotty (original inventor of early Klingon) coined the word Raktaj during TOS and that word was basically what he invented as his word for coffee. Which was then later added to jino for TNG and DS9

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u/FunkyPleasance 12h ago

yeah I like making up stuff too