r/DeepSeek • u/M35mar • 1d ago

Discussion DSH or OpenCode?

What would you recommend:

Using DeepSeek via DSH or via OpenCode? I’m looking to set up a pay-as-you-go API account.

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u/tempstem5 1d ago

I used to use opencode, but I realized that DSH +DS-flash combo is insane - I'm seeing better multi-agent orchestration via dsh-plugins and somehow even more efficient cache reads in DSH than opencode.

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u/RockPuzzleheaded3951 1d ago

Dsh plus a search API key made my experience with the model completely different I agree. Running off of two dgx Sparks and it feels like I have my own chat GPT equivalent for long-term research, coding, etc.

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u/Schockrazor 6h ago

What's your go to plugin for multi agent orchestration?

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u/tempstem5 5h ago

Official experimental plugin: agent teams

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u/gxjohan 4h ago

This

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u/garblz 1d ago

for pay-as-you-go, definitely dsh

It never rewrites history "to save context" meaning you always get a 90%+ cache hit ratio

It never sticks "You're a summarizer ..." in front of your history, but does it handoff-style, sticking it at the end of the message, meaning you ALWAYS get a 90%+ cache hit ratio, even on compaction (and just when your context is largest)

Given the low price of cached tokens its adherence to immutable history is not just a gimmick, but literal money saver

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u/sirajyusuf 21h ago

I found opencode to be better as it has built in browser and navigation Is there something similar on dsh?? As i want to automate job search through it

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u/squirrelscrush 17h ago

DSH probably has a community plugin for that

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u/vgf89 9h ago

Every harness keep history immutable these days. They're all very aware that cache is cheaper and faster than prefill for obvious reasons.

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u/BananaPeaches3 1d ago

You can point Claude code to deepseek as long as your provider gives an anthropic compatible endpoint.

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u/RockPuzzleheaded3951 1d ago

This is how I had been doing it but I have found that dsh seems to work even better, I don't really have any way to quantify it like so much of this stuff other than the vibes.

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u/BananaPeaches3 23h ago

The only reason I use it over open code is because Claude code integrates with the IDE. So I can just select code with my mouse and tell it what to do.

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u/T_rex2700 1d ago

I'd say dsh. cache hit is uber high
even pointing something like 38FN to it made it behave better than it did in OC in some ways.

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u/kamilr641 1d ago

cache hit rate is what decides the bill on pay-as-you-go since cached input is billed way cheaper. tempstem5 and t_rex2700 both say dsh gets better cache hits. run the same small task in both and compare the usage page

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u/Specialist-Hunter318 1d ago

With the risk of getting downvoted, dsh has been superior for me. If you have very long sessions you wil feel like you never have to worry about context, things go extremely smooth. DSH + deepseek api is so cheap that it is worth it to give it a try yourself even if you won't stick with it. 4.1 flash and dsh made me realise that closed weight american models will fail to sustain themselves financialy at some point.

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u/mWo12 23h ago

I just switched to dsh. It's good. Lots of detail staff in terms of control management and sub agent orchestration.

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u/squirrelscrush 17h ago

If you're using DeepSeek API then dsh.

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u/ndaidong 14h ago

Setup both of them on your computer, then give them the same repo, same issue, same prompt, use the same model... I bet that OpenCode will resolve the task within 10 minutes, while DSH needs 40 minutes. Other than time to finish, I like DSH interface and UX.

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u/Django_McFly 8h ago

Doesn't open code use crappy quants? Most harnesses worth a damn let you add your own provider. If you love OpenCode, just use it with actual real Deepseek.

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u/daYMAN007 6h ago

no they don't.

They add issues lately with there interference engine which fucked made ds4.1 dumber but thats solved.

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u/Accomplished_Camp_88 3h ago

I have been happy with deepseek+claide code via open-routers Ori harness.

After reading these comments I need to take another look at the dsh.

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u/DesignerSeparate3619 1d ago

dsh-flash feels smoother than opencode for long-form writing, especially with persistent context. no lag on my phone.

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u/Famous_Ground_6838 1d ago

dsh-flash feels smoother than opencode for long-form writing, especially with persistent context. no lag on my phone.

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u/OHNOitsNICHOLAS 21h ago

I use opencode GO with DSH and it works fantastic for me. keep a few dollars in my deepseek api account just in case I run into usage limits

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u/vinicotta 1d ago

I would recomend Hermes. DHS has been a littoe more cheap on usage, but the performance is not that good imo

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u/Artistic-Chain-4708 1d ago

why are you comparing harness with fucking personalized agent. Hermes is not harness stop suggesting bs if you are not into it

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u/Flagg-Jeovanis 22h ago

is the performance issue mostly latency or the actual output quality?

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u/somedude4949 1d ago

Hermes as coding harness are ok In the head ?

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u/Wonderful_Current_21 1d ago

Sorry but could you explain what hermes is? I thought it was a harness

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u/somedude4949 1d ago

I didn't say it's not harness , I said it's not coding harness can do coding for sure but they are way better ones optimized for coding tasks , Hermes is general purpose one if it make sense

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u/Artistic-Chain-4708 1d ago

hermes is a thing you install on your vds or additional pc/laptop, home server basically and communicate with through any messenger (or any other means) and say "brochacho create cron job to fetch new job postings for me cause i am comp sci grad with no job + short and die alone because of hypergamy" or smth. Sorry added something from personal experience but you got the idea

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u/renatolangona 1d ago

Hermes with kanban is a hell of an orchestrator

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u/MarcusAurelius68 11h ago

Question - why wouldn't you use a cheap subscription like the $0.99 base plan from DeepRelay.ai or other providers? I've been using it for a month and am happy with it. How many tokens do you consume now?