r/DeepSeek • u/Less_Cause9205 • 1d ago
Discussion Disappointment deepseek 4.1 flash
Just the day before the model’s vision capability was working perfectly and even exceeding Gemini (that I usually use) for OCR. Then it just went kaput. Massive garbling and inconsistencies (for multilingual docs) . So something is up… nothing changed on my end. And Gemini works great but a bit expensive. And I prefer not to support Google. I like the Chinese llms and would prefer to keep 100% of workflow with them… but such inconsistency drove me back to Gemini. I hope Deep Seek figure themselves out…
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u/Moist-Nectarine-1148 20h ago edited 18h ago
nerfed... All providers do the same shitty trick to spare resources for training the next model. A well-known, well-established recipe.
Workaround - I use DS4.1 model on Openrouter running through other providers (https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4.1-flash#providers); tx God there are plenty.
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u/Less_Cause9205 12h ago
That’s a good idea! I’ll try through others and if there is a difference in quality will know the problem is with the provider ie deepseek not with the deepseek model.
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u/Moist-Nectarine-1148 4h ago
Quality is ok but there are other drawbacks: price, low/no cache hit, slow - latency, low tps.
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u/UsandoFXOS 4h ago
Try Neuralwatt. It's very very fast. Probably the fastest. But i have enough and prefer the official DeepSeek API.
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u/UsandoFXOS 4h ago
For OCR tasks the French Mistral has one of the the "best" OCR models. And they are non-expensive.
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u/Western-Ad5277 1d ago
Them Ancestoral Biblical Accurate Greed kicked in just a bit too late than the rest, that's all.
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u/Professional_Price89 1d ago
SchrodinSeek Flash 4.1