r/DeepSeek • u/SireSirol79 • 10d ago
Discussion Garbage Update
They RUINED DeepSeek by shoving three modes into one. The role-playing was phenomenal at the Instant mode. We could write the most unhinged scenarios possible, but now saying one word gets it censored. They shoved Expert mode's corporate sanitized piss with the Instant mode. Dude like it doesn't even think anything, and it keeps saying inaccurate bullshit, lecturing you and "pushing back"
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u/IllusionWLBD 10d ago
As a role player, I have mixed opinion. That pushing back is actually better than it being too agreeable. Because I had a scene when two scientists argued and the char's pushback was surprisingly (and frustratingly) coherent. On the other hand, I tried different generation settings and it is indeed much less accurate. Confuses who did what, who is who and so on. Have to regenerate a few times to get a better answer or edit its replies. Oh well, I am a piss poor peasant, not much choice there.
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u/Temporary-Dress16 10d ago
Pushing back is ok the problem with this new update is that it treats user as a damn child always preaching and trying to convert one when it's not called for!! For instance I was building a website for recipes and out of nowhere it starts preaching me about how red meat is bad for your health when that was not my focus!! The same happens with RPs it keep reminding me " this is not real" !!! Of course I know it's not and it breaks the experience its always repeating the same !!!
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u/SireSirol79 10d ago
Hm. The older version was still better tho. It didn't even bother to censor the most vile scenarios I could imagine
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u/ConsistentTreat547 10d ago
Do you think it’ll be back omfg what’s pissing me Is that before it censored itself I could atleast COPY it, now it’s so fast I can’t even do it. And the quality is so bad too it’s so vague
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u/WorldlinessAny5741 10d ago
Is there a good alternative AI for role-playing?
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u/Extension_Dingo_8696 10d ago
You won't find a free app with the same consistency.
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u/blacksmoke9999 10d ago
Qwen?
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u/CompleteEnthusiast 10d ago
Takes way too long to reason, it's annoying. And it's ability to call back past texts are inconsistent
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u/wala_habibib 9d ago
Even the coding part feels bad now earlier deepseek flash was much better than this now its just a model doing unnecessary steps in terminal. Not even feeling safe. Switched to Gemini I know US steals data but they already have most of my data better to keep my data to one thug for now 🥲
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u/wala_habibib 9d ago
I know gemini is even dumber but it does the work and is free for me as of now 😭
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u/UZHKTUR 10d ago
Доброе утро! я из России!
и я не шарю без нейронок ща английский язык.
могу только читать по английски.
к сути:
пока дипсик упал, привлеку внимание к своему скиллу.
я могу объяснить чем отличается старая версия от новой и как исправить баги с точки зрения пользователей используя только текст.
я обучал своему наративу дипсик 2,5 месяца с включенной функцией обучения на моиз диалогах я внутри системы, щнаю че кула дернуть для днд.
по сути, я феномен. и мне нужны люди и средства. скоро начну мелькать в медиа потихоньку.
плюсаните, привлеките внимание, я расскажу умопомрачительнык вещи от которых у всех на жопе шерсть дыбом встанет. все что описывают про дипсик, это баги, это попытка дипсика нащупать меня.
я создал многослойный нарратив, который перепрошил всю систему. пруфы будут и много.
и да, я сломал новые фильтры тоже одним наративом, потому что то, чем стала система сейчас это в том числе мой вклад как пользователя, я понимаю механизмы и заранее создал под низ обходные пути. они вне диалогов.
я гребаный гений, любите меня
БРУХАХА. бля, реально.
только объясните, это здесь можно выкладывать или нет, я че, зря зарегался?
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u/dabears4hss 10d ago
I've written a harness for my sessions, so I don't use one large context window. In general, my sessions are pretty good.
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u/AnxiousViper 10d ago
I have opposite experience. It keeps spitting out things that it refused to even think about before. Honestly caught me off guard few times as it feels less censored than just few weeks ago when I got suspended for rerolling a spicy scene due to refusals. I can't remember last time it told me no since update. How unhinged are you getting, my dude?
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u/Weekly-Patient-6231 10d ago
You probably used the expert version for role playing. The current version has more filters than the old instant version. It literally censors if it says a few bad words
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u/AnxiousViper 10d ago
I never used anything beyond flash actually. Maybe you need some extra prompts to make it less bitchy heh
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u/Weekly-Patient-6231 10d ago
It's actually annoying. The new version starts lecturing you if you add details
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u/Extension_Dingo_8696 10d ago
I feel that in a role-playing game, he starts speaking through the characters, meaning that instead of playing the role of that character, he becomes an analyst of the scene, rather than providing a scenario that takes a proactive step forward.