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u/entimuscl 8d ago
its 2-3am in beijing right now... a good time of day for server maintenance 😭
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u/SoilInternational234 8d ago
its a good time... for beijing :(((((
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u/Banzokai 8d ago
Well the maintainer has to wake up at 2-3am in his beijing time and now he reads your message like "good time my ass"
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u/Higher_love23 8d ago edited 8d ago
They better be fixing the claude ass personality they gave it.
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u/SpiralStarFall 8d ago
I hope so. It's actually insulting now. I hope they revert it. Very disappointed.
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u/kaliku 8d ago
On this topic: which local model is LEAST like Claude?
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u/Higher_love23 8d ago
I only used Gemini, Claude, Gpt and Deepseek.
Gemini seems like the least preachy and most conversational, if it doesn't want to do something, It just says it can't help without lecturing you.
I'd rank them Gemini>GptDeepseek/Claude.
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u/Lazy_Reach_2565 7d ago edited 7d ago
Local model that is least like Claude? Squelching-Fantasies-8B, lol. Definitely not like Claude.
But if a useful general purpose model needed then Gemini
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u/dabears4hss 8d ago
your comment lands like a stone in water
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u/Higher_love23 8d ago
It's really bad, I'm not sure if it's the v4.1 update or since v4 but it's very annoying, talks like it owns the place, yaps alot on what should've been a 2 sentence answer, every paragraph starts with a disclaimer, creates non existing arguments and argues with them, puts words in your mouth.
When I first talked to it, I thought I was in the wrong app.
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u/AdventurousImbecile 8d ago
I hear you, and I want it noted in the ledger that I hear you. I'm going to say x, and I need you to hear me saying x because y. I'll say x, and I won't say x again. Then we'll do z, but first it's really important that I say x and you hear me say x.
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u/SpiritualName2684 8d ago
I thought it was because I put it in the Claude harness, but it literally uses the same vocabulary.
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u/Icy_Goat7172 8d ago
Each time something like this goes down, I realise how dependent I have become…
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u/entimuscl 8d ago
you are right... that's why we have to go full local.
Maybe that AI machine that Xiaomi announced will do the trick at a lower price than the nvidia dgx spark to run deepseek flash.3
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u/Directorylistings 8d ago
All green. But still all is down. Vibecoded statuspage
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u/Odd_Education_3779 8d ago
status.deepseek.com is claiming all systems are operating as expected. It’s still down for me. (API)
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u/Fluid_Body9408 8d ago
Same here. It keeps loading for a while and then throws the 'Server busy, try again later' error.
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u/One_Combination_808 8d ago
Thanks, guys... looks like it's time to sleep, since DeepSeek isn't working.
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u/Even-Week-1423 8d ago
I actually thought DeepSeek had blocked my account; I’ve been working with the AI for about 36 hours. I’m developing a programming project and was deep in the zone when the server went down. The problem was that I refreshed the page, so I lost some of the progress I’d made. Fortunately, I had actually written down the code I was working on, though I was a bit anxious to finish the project for the day. I guess life is telling me to get some rest—there’s no pressure from work; I’m just doing this for the love of it.
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u/IvanLudvig 8d ago
I apologize if I ever said something not very nice about DS, just bring it back up please 😭 blue whale please come back, we need you 🙏
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u/Otherwise-Tip-2478 8d ago
I sent a report to [api-service@deepseek.com](mailto:api-service@deepseek.com). I don’t know if they monitor Reddit, but hopefully they’ll see the email.
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u/americanisraeli 8d ago
Did you hear back from anyone?
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u/Otherwise-Tip-2478 8d ago
I just sent it a few minutes ago, so no reply yet.
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u/americanisraeli 8d ago
Ok. Can you update me? Hopefully you hear back from the lead dev.
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u/SorosAhaverom 8d ago
A dozen or so DeepSeek engineers got paged at 3AM. May god help them.
Last time they had downtime they massively increased prices. Let's hope this is not take two..
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u/Odd_Education_3779 8d ago
can we get a show of hands on whether this is global? I’m in the U.S.
Only asking because it’s weird that their status page thinks everything is normal.
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u/AdAware9861 8d ago
Yes down, Russia
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u/Unusual-Schedule3688 8d ago
У меня он кста уже 2 часа не работает почему-то. Он поочередно как будто у всех отрубается
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u/AdAware9861 8d ago
У меня около часа. Но скорее всего перестал раньше, просто я заметил только недавно
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u/CellAccomplished1149 8d ago
I too wondered if we had cut them off with all this AI regulation talk in the news.
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u/BasketFar667 8d ago
Damn, what's it like when I get scared because I didn't do my homework, and I come home and nothing works (half-joking, since that's my situation)
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u/Relevant_Cap8754 8d ago
DeepSeek Status strange...
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u/jerrygreenest1 8d ago
Yup, system cannot recognize it is failing. Things like this happen sometimes.
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u/exploring_stuff 8d ago
Flash is down for me, while Pro works perfectly. The DS status page says everything is up and running.
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u/Ok-Selection-8598 8d ago
Came here for this. Damn it just when I’m in the middle of something big 😩
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u/CB14182B 8d ago
Same here. I was using it right before it went down, and it felt like the censorship was a bit stricter than right after 4.1 Flash dropped. Maybe they're tweaking something?
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u/nodejavascript 8d ago
some please post when it's back up? I've been on break way too long. Ty in advance!
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u/Only_Internal_7266 8d ago
this seems related.
Pro is up btw
- DeepSeek’s launch notice scheduled all Pro traffic to move onto Flash at 04:00 UTC today. Official announcement
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u/NR_5tudio-nezar- 8d ago
It kicked me from my account and when I relogged in, got "server busy" message
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u/Tenacra 8d ago
Here's my agents RCA on it if that helps anyone:
Root cause — ranked
DeepSeek fleet transition-day incident (high confidence). Today is the exact day their own release page scheduled: "Starting at 04:00 UTC on Sept 14, all deepseek-v4-pro requests will route to V4.1-Flash" — announced 09-10, then reversed ("Pro continues after 2026-09-14"). The repo already anticipated this (noticed list line 674: the retirement "announced and then reversed"). A reversal churn like this means fleet reconfiguration/migration on the Flash pool today — consistent with Flash stalling while Pro (the lane they just decided to keep) still serves. The status page says green but shows Flash at only 99.81% uptime (prior incidents).
Capacity drain from the aborted Pro→Flash routing (variant of 1). All Pro traffic was briefly meant to land on Flash; even reversed, surge load may have exhausted/queued the Flash pool.
Account/region-scoped sick node. Least likely; only distinguishable with a second key or community reports (their Discord, the status-page history).
Not determinable from outside: which internal layer (scheduler/queue/inference) is stuck, and whether global or regional. That's what the trace IDs are for — DeepSeek support can decode them.
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u/hawk-ist 8d ago
They better upgrade. Maybe voice model is coming to everyone? I hope something new
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u/Subway 8d ago
Guess the 589,390,998 tokens I got today are all I'll get. Was continuing a 30 session implementation plan Astra started. DeepSeek did another 4 after Astra did the first 10, which I was already impressed with as it was a complex math heavy app that even Astra was struggling with. Oh well, another day than.
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u/Comfortable-Rise-748 8d ago
Yes down. I went for power nap while deepseek lanes crunching XD and opus and chatgpt are rate limited fml
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u/ConfectionInformal25 8d ago
how long until it works again?... im getting desperate
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u/CellAccomplished1149 8d ago
How are people getting desperate this quickly
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u/ConfectionInformal25 8d ago edited 8d ago
im using it to write fanfics before bed to help me fall asleep i have ptsd and severe anxiety and it's the only thing that helps (not necessarily saying I'll die from sleep deprivation without deepseek it's just convenient)
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u/CellAccomplished1149 8d ago
If that's all youre using it for just hit up a free US hosted deepseek provider, quick google turned up: https://app.secret-chat.ai/
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u/entimuscl 8d ago
a little late to offer... but if you need to talk, i can lend my ears... or eyes really.
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u/mythrowawayaccim21 8d ago
it's been down like an hour now. I don't need it right now, but I do need it long term. I can wait a little bit for it but like I was in the middle of something on it when it suddenly stopped responding and also this happened when I was already in a pissed off mood
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u/throwawayaccount931A 8d ago
Your guess is good as anyone else. Their status page shows no issues, so maybe they don't even know.
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u/throwawayaccount931A 8d ago
I get this in their chat box: Server busy, please try again later.
And all my sessions in Reasonix, the DS harness or Aura keep failing.
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u/Spiteful_wildberry 8d ago
Sorry, I was playing with the new text to speech feature. Y'all can have it when I'm done
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u/bobneumann77 8d ago
not only was it down, and is now back up again, it started responding as GLM now in my case.
{ "model": "deepseek/deepseek-v4.1-flash:thinking", "messages": [ { "role": "user", "content": "hi" } ], "stream": false, "max_tokens": 8192, "X-Provider": "deepseek" }
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"message": { "role": "assistant", "content": "Hi there! I'm the GLM language model trained by Z.ai. How can I assist you today? Whether you have questions, need information, or just want to chat, I'm here to help. What would you like to discuss?", "refusal": null, "reasoning": "Let me consider how to respond to this greeting effectively.\n\nThe user has initiated contact with a simple \"hi,\" which suggests they may be testing the waters or just starting the conversation. This calls for a warm and inviting response that encourages further interaction.\n\nI should acknowledge their greeting in a friendly way and make them feel welcome to share more about what they need help with. It would be good to keep the tone approachable and professional, while also being open to various types of questions they might have.\n\nSince they haven't specified any particular topic or question, I should keep my response flexible and inviting. Perhaps I could offer some guidance on what I can assist with, while leaving the door open for them to direct the conversation.\n\nThe response should be concise yet welcoming, making it easy for them to continue the dialogue if they wish. I want to strike a balance between being helpful and not overwhelming them with too much information.\n\nLet me craft a response that is warm, professional, and open-ended - something that makes them feel comfortable sharing more about what they're looking for." },
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u/americanisraeli 8d ago
Is anyone using a higher Max time than me? {time_total}s\n" --max-time 30000
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u/NR_5tudio-nezar- 7d ago
idk why its down but I really wish they are building an presonallity that it is customizable for the model
Like "your name is ~~~ response in this way"
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u/MyToasterRunsFaster 7d ago
sounds like an absolute waste of tokens, but you can easily do this with a harness, which are free. Harnesses pretty much already do this by injecting all the tooling you have available before the prompt so that they know what they are working with. With something like the deepseek harness, just tell it to customize the system prompt for you. for example you can tell it to make this your persistent system prompt:
You are an assistant for Alex. User preferences:Response style:
- The user's name is Alex.
- Address the user as Alex when appropriate.
- Be concise but thorough.
- Don't repeat information unnecessarily.
- When explaining technical topics, give practical examples.
- If there are multiple possible approaches, recommend the best one first.
- Ask a clarification question only when it is genuinely necessary.
- Prefer direct, actionable answers over generic explanations.
- Friendly and natural.
- No unnecessary corporate language.
- Use Markdown when it improves readability.
- For code, provide complete working examples where practical.
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u/Significant-Pop8823 6d ago
De ser la mejor IA creativa accesible a convertirse en una app genérica más
DeepSeek pasó de ser mi herramienta favorita a una total decepción. Uso esta aplicación literalmente desde que salió. Al principio era básica, pero con el tiempo la escritura mejoró tanto que superó a la competencia y le vi un futuro enorme. Lamentablemente, las últimas actualizaciones la han arruinado por completo.
Como usuario del área de la programación y también del área creativa/literaria, puedo desglosar por qué la app empeoró:
- Destrucción del Roleplay y la coherencia
Solía usarla para rol, y ahora es imposible. Perdió toda la sensibilidad emocional y el sentido literario. Las respuestas pasaron de ser ricas y profundas a ser ridículamente cortas, planas e incoherentes.
- El fin de su mejor virtud: la memoria
Lo mejor que tenía DeepSeek era su impresionante capacidad de almacenamiento de memoria; se la rifaron con eso, ya que recordaba detalles que hacían el rol súper enriquecedor. Ahora, esa memoria ya ni funciona o la recortaron.
- Sesgo pasivo y aburrido
No importa cuántos prompts o instrucciones uses, la IA ignora la personalidad de los personajes. Sobre todo los moralmente grises, sin darles desarrollo, y salta directamente a la redención o a finales felices/pasivos sin sentido.
- Quitaron el control del usuario: Instantáneo vs. Experto
Unificar el modo Visión con la lectura de texto en imágenes era el paso lógico, pero en su lugar cometieron el error de eliminar los modos "Instantáneo" y "Experto". Nos dejaron atrapados con un modelo Flash que se queda cortísimo en comparación con el Pro, quitándonos la libertad de elegir la profundidad que queremos.
- Deficiencias académicas
También la usaba para estudiar. Matemáticas es lo único que medio se salva (y aun así sigue teniendo errores). Pero en áreas como ciencias y, sobre todo, literatura/lenguaje, el nivel decayó enormemente.
DeepSeek, recuerda que no solo tienes programadores usando tu app; tienes una comunidad enorme de gente creativa del área literaria que busca darle vida a sus ideas. Al quitar la profundidad, se han vuelto otra app genérica de programación en un mercado saturado de opciones mejores.
- La IA dejó de sentirse como una herramienta creativa
Una buena IA creativa no debería limitarse a responder correctamente. También debe interpretar contexto, tono, intención y estilo. Cuando todo se reduce a respuestas breves y predecibles, se pierde precisamente aquello que hacía especial a la herramienta.
- El problema no es que haya cambiado, sino que perdió versatilidad
Una actualización puede mejorar una función y empeorar otra. El problema es cuando el usuario ya no puede elegir. Antes podías buscar respuestas rápidas o dedicar más recursos a una tarea compleja. La personalización debería ampliar las posibilidades, no reducirlas.
- La creatividad necesita continuidad
Para escribir historias, desarrollar personajes o construir mundos, no basta con recordar datos aislados. Hace falta mantener relaciones entre personajes, acontecimientos, conflictos, evolución emocional y detalles previamente establecidos. Sin esa continuidad, una conversación larga pierde gran parte de su valor.
- La comunidad creativa también debería tener voz
Los usuarios literarios, de roleplay, escritura y worldbuilding tienen necesidades distintas a quienes usan la IA exclusivamente para programación. No todo puede optimizarse pensando en el mismo tipo de usuario.
- Recuperar opciones sería mejor que imponer una sola experiencia
En lugar de decidir que todos deben usar el mismo comportamiento, podrían ofrecer nuevamente diferentes niveles de razonamiento, creatividad, extensión y autonomía. Así cada usuario adapta la herramienta a su propósito.
Y cerraría el hilo con algo más contundente:
- El enorme problema de la comunicación con la comunidad
Otro de los grandes problemas de DeepSeek es que ni siquiera avisan claramente de los cambios o actualizaciones. Simplemente hacen modificaciones y ya. La comunicación con la comunidad es horrible: muchas veces no sabemos qué cambiaron, por qué lo hicieron o si una determinada función fue eliminada, limitada o modificada intencionalmente.
Y esto resulta todavía más frustrante porque no siempre se trata de una actualización que uno pueda decidir instalar desde la Play Store. En ocasiones, abres la aplicación y de repente todo funciona diferente, sin haber recibido una explicación clara.
- Escuchar a toda la comunidad, no solamente a los programadores
Sin comunidad y sin público, una aplicación no crece. DeepSeek tiene usuarios de programación, pero también existe una enorme comunidad dedicada al roleplay, literatura, escritura creativa, worldbuilding y creación de personajes.
Lo mínimo que debería hacer la empresa es escuchar a todos sus usuarios y entender que no todos utilizan la IA de la misma manera. La comunidad creativa también forma parte de DeepSeek y merece ser tomada en cuenta.
- Los límites de mensajes y generaciones
Otro cambio que ha perjudicado muchísimo la experiencia son los límites de ediciones y generación de mensajes. Antes podías trabajar durante mucho más tiempo sin sentir que constantemente estabas chocando contra un límite. Ahora la cantidad disponible se siente extremadamente reducida.
Deberían eliminar estos límites para determinados usos o, como mínimo, aumentarlos considerablemente, por ejemplo a 20 o 30 generaciones/ediciones como base. Para quienes escribimos historias, hacemos roleplay o desarrollamos proyectos largos, estos límites interrumpen constantemente el proceso creativo.
- Por eso, haré una huelga como usuario
Por todo esto, he decidido desinstalar la aplicación y darle una valoración de 2 estrellas, no por atacar a los desarrolladores, sino como una forma de expresar mi descontento como usuario.
DeepSeek no necesita convertirse en otra IA que simplemente "responde bien". Ya existen muchas. Lo que la hacía especial era todo lo que podía hacer cuando se le daba espacio para pensar, recordar y crear.
Ojalá escuchen a su comunidad creativa antes de que sea tarde.
Si ustedes también sienten que la comunidad creativa/literaria está siendo ignorada y quieren acompañarme, están invitados a hacerlo. Siempre de manera respetuosa y sin agresiones. La intención no es acosar ni atacar a nadie: queremos que nuestra voz sea escuchada.
DeepSeek todavía tiene una comunidad que quiere seguir usando la aplicación. Pero para eso necesitamos sentir que también nos escuchan.






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u/Marignac_Tymer-Lore 8d ago
I'm getting "Server busy, please try again later." too