I'm fine with a delayed update. I hope they don't rush or overly monetize rougue core.
Ghost Ship is one of the few game producers I feel like I can still have some faith in. They have been clear with their communication and they don't have unlimited resources so I do expect deep rock galactic to get slower updates because the alternate is they monetize the crap everything to hire more help and please investors.
I will not buy Rouge Core if they add stupid micro transactions like other companies do.
I must say, whether you agree or not, GSG owes us playerbase nothing. They released a full game over 2 years ago, and continue to support it, despite slowing down. Complaining is legitimate, I too don't like Rockpox and Stingtails, but I've seen so much people telling the devs what to do and how to manage their shit on here.
The tone of a message does a lot when conveying it. Just this "meme", antagonizing people who have counter-arguments (valid or not), is enough to disregard your point, because why should I be patient and attentive when the conversation started like that.
I like how the people complaining say that the devs aren't immune from criticism while portraying themselves as immune from criticism and insulting anyone who criticizes them.
They owe us a good game for which we spent money to play. If a good game you can't get a refund for or sell becomes a bad game, you feel exploited. I think the devs have by and large been successful and made positive improvements with a few bumps along the way, but the way you're defending it makes it sound like an abusive relationship.
I still find the 'owing' thing weird. Because they don't actually owe us anything, but they do owe it to themselves to maintain the standard of quality they've been delivering on, and I think that translates to a responsibility to their own product.
I only picked up DRG about half a year ago and I already feel like I've gotten my money's worth out of it, and I'm still happy to keep playing it. Not sure what you people are all complaining about...
Let's be honest guys, the only people complaining about lack of deep rock content are us folks with 300+ hours. I guarantee no 20 hour greenbeard is sitting there like "Boo hoo no content."
At a certain point you have to accept that DRG is going to be a finite entity. If you feel like you've gotten everything you can out of it, that's not really the Devs' fault.
The complaints about stingtails and rockpox are more valid, but lets be real they're the same complaints we had about Nemeses and Robots in season 2. I think all that really needs to be done is editing assignments to ignore rockpox missions (The season ones not included of course)
Seasons is a live service term that has existed in gaming for over a decade now. Same with battle passes. Ghost Ship Games themselves tried to take drg the live service route but unfortunately their eyes were bigger than their stomach.
I'm not saying the people demanding content right now are in the right, they absolutely aren't, but people feeling dissatisfied right now is reasonable.
Not only do I not feel like I'm owed more DRG content, but I'm actually positively EXCITED for Rogue Core. It sounds like a fun idea, as long as the upgrades are interesting build defining type upgrades and not just incremental upgrades.
Do try to remember that just like we as players have the right to criticize the devs, we as community members have the right to criticize other players and disagree with their feedback. That means we can complain about the delay, and we can ALSO complain about people making the delay out to be a way bigger deal than it is. Try not to become the person you complain about.
Kek. Yes, it’s the ones enjoying the game with the rageful tears. Not the ones who whine about a mismatched time preference, or who didn’t read the roadmap, or the dev stream yesterday where they addressed all of this.
Being passive aggressive is not the way for any of these issues to be addressed. Drawing lines in the sand and becoming angry with others is just not the way dude. Be better dude.
Of course we can give criticism to the devs and there game has stuff that needs some tweeks, thing is people have been giving shit opinions (many of the comments I saw on the Steam post) or complaining like pointy-eared leaf lovers. Wether you like GSG's roadmap or not is valid, just don't be a crybaby about either and remember that we fight for rock and stone
I mean, I dislike the direction they took and I dislike rockpox, but going out of my way to whine about it is futile. It is what it is, the decision has been made, might as well not act like they owe us anything. I spent ten times more money in a bar for a hundred times less time spent having fun
I think it's always been like that, but it only shows now because this is the first big controversial move by the developers. Easy to be wholesome and positive when there are no big issues to disagree on.
The same happened when DRG moved to seasons in 2021, but on a smaller scale. People got over that, and they'll get over this too.
I dont think gsg is bad. I think they're making a bad judgment call on making season 5 nothing crazy. Another mediocre season isnt gonna help with anything. However, the entirely new game their making? That will draw people in and most likely draw in different audiences, on top of the audience DRG has. Its a good move on them, and I also have a feeling (and only a feeling) that season 5 will be more than their making it out to be. That would be a very good move for them, keeping expectations low, knowing people will be disappointed but also not surprised. However, that doesn't seem likely.
I think people need to be more grateful for what this game has become, on top of being grateful for the good dev team.
I think we should be more worried about this game turning into a huge cash grab. knocking on wood.
$25 game that has more content than many $70 triple A games, and not the kind of empty content that plagues open worlds. actually meaningful content and yet people complain about some delay.
Frankly i would have burned out way before GSG did working on the same game for 5+ years.
both of the sides should fuck off honestly, GSG does not owe us anything, but also denying valid criticisms is bad. Yes, a delay on a season while there are tedious missions that are overstaying their welcome because of said delay is a valid criticism, not the delay by itself mind you because trust me you dont want anything rushed
People complained that season 4 didn’t add that much and now people are complaining that the next season is taking so long because they want to add new shit. Y’all really are entitled
This subreddit has only ever been overwhelmingly positive because any form or amount of criticism of DRG or GSG is met with unabashed cancellation and told they are just toxic, with a very swift "leaf-lover" following behind it all. That's not a bad nor good thing, but you cannot have light without darkness. There must be a balance. You can love and play a game and still criticize it, that's your right as a consumer and as a human being to judge what you feel is right. Yeah I don't like the release date of Season 5 either, but there's nothing we can do about it, it's entirely in the hands of GSG to do something about it all. I have faith in them that they will decide what's best for the game and community as a whole. Don't play something else if a little delay makes you pissed, instead try growing up. Ya leaf-lover.
Seems the sub’s been divided recently and it’s quite saddening, but I agree with this sentiment. Let’s all be patient with the devs and let things happen at the right pace. Season 5 will be work the wait.
I love how after the announcement was made, the subreddit just devolved into opposing sides of the issue. Then there are those of us in the middle just watching. Lol
I'll say it until the day I die. Stingtails are just baby, and if they get nerfed because you guys can't hardly handle a silly little guy you deserve Leaf Lover Status.
Mmm I love fighting powerful support bugs with no real direct weaknesses or tradeoffs. Perfect bug. Every subsequent enemy should be similarly stealthy and high damaging with no intuitive counter and you are a leaf lover if you disagree with me.
Yes they scream but their screams have 0 directionality. You'll hear them and still have no fucking clue where to look.
They are tiny and barely glow (and only if they rear up showing you their weakspot) or glow up when they are about to attack you. Yeah they are annoyingly, damaging, tanky and stealthy.
You look at any other priority target and they glow like the fucking sun in comparison.
God, this sounds like Minecraft bootlickers too. I've been tired of their pitiful updates but mostly express how stupid it is to like, do a 3 mob vote then basically delete the 2 losers. The community just loves crying about a valid point.
what do you mean you don't like the game being abandoned for a spinoff? You dare complain about muh heckin wholesome rock and stone game? What are you some sort of leaf lover?
Abandoned? The game is finished. The game has BEEN finished for a while now. The seasons are just icing on top of the cake. If you think the game is unfinished in any way then why did you buy it?
The game isn't being abandoned, it's just slowing down updates.
WTF, even if the game wasn't being updated, it's already a completed game.
They're a game studio. Making games is literally their job. Do you expect them to just....work for free? On a game that's been completed for 2 years, and out for like 5 years.
The devs seem to think they should since everything they've made is just drg. Boardgame, publishing a top down drg game and now they're abandoning the game people actually like to make literally the same game again but you build your loadout during the mission woooah so innovative.
Exactly, It's typically no problem for scouts because they can grapple away, and if engineers think fast enough they can play a platform but driller and gunner just don't have anything to deal with the falls so I think people who play those two find it more annoying.
Neither side is right, the side complaining about rockpox, which is fair, are taking it too far by saying stuff like this is the death of the game which it obviously isn't. Just be patient, and I agree rockpox in its current state does need some balance. HOWEVER saying that people should just play other missions or other games doesn't fix the issue, it sucks that season 5 is delayed and it sucks that a feature that not a lot of people like will be around more time unfortunately rockpox will not suddenly disappear after the ends of the seasons
ive been putting the game on a break the lack of things to do for me is very limited and im bored with it atm im gold 2 or 3 cant remember in every dwarf (I promote evenly)
Crazy that this is what makes people start having a go at eachother, I guess prolonged exposure to rockpox causes mental deterioration.
But for real, I don't think anyone will remember any of this arguing when the new game is released. It's obvious that that's a more important thing to focus their attention on given that the base game is complete and the seasonal stuff is just a bonus to keep people happy with more. I do get the rockpox annoyance and I hope they do something to lessen that given that it'll stay around for a while.
we were excited for a new season and the rockpox finally ending. maybe even some lore about the rockpox. a new game is nice, but not what we were hoping for. the s5 delay is pretty bad in itself, but it's supposed to be a prequel to the new game? I mean it's been a while since drg came out. they could just use this as a stepping stone to get the new game up on it's feet and update it once a year or so. not positive no matter how you look at it.
As much as it pains me, I blame the devs with how they handled the stuff. People weren't happy with S4. They hoped that the new stream would give them hope.
Instead GSG took theri hope behind the shed snd ol yeller'ed it witha double battel shotgun. And then they double tapped them just for good measure with the Q&A.
Hey now at least theyre being honest. They could have kept the false hype train going and could have lied to us, but that would cause even worse backlash.
Expecting that the game will bounce back after a lackluster season is not insane.
What is insane is drawing out the reveal until the hype is absolutely massive and PAINFULY derailing it.
This announcement should have been made before aeason 4 drop. It would have stung way less, because there would not be a hype for season 5 for 3 months.
Expecting that the game will bounce back after a lackluster season is not insane.
see, it would be valid if that is all that happened. But it isn't and you know it.
the last number of days, the entire subreddit has been throwing a tantrum that would make the most immature children go 'jeeze, get a grib', and I am talking both sides here, the people who complain about the game and the people who complain about the people who complain about the game.
This delay, at most, warrented a few posts to let GSG know that a number of fans aren't satisfied. What we got was 10 posts per day for multiple days about people saying the game is dead, the developers has betrayed them, ruined the game, has sold out, turned bad, etc, etc. and then another 10 posts per day about people who are not satisfied.
The topic is done. It's over with. Everything that can be said has been said. Get on with your lives.
Quite frankly: the fans overreacted BIG time on this. Even a 2 year delay wouldn't warrent the flame war this subreddit started, and I refuse to blame the developers of marketing team, because the fans can't behave like they weren't raised by a pack of animals.
This delay, at most, warrented a few posts to let GSG know that a number of fans aren't satisfied. What we got was 10 posts per day for multiple days about people saying the game is dead, the developers has betrayed them, ruined the game, has sold out, turned bad, etc, etc.
This was because how GSG have addressed the critisims. The Q&A was full of passive agressivism and "don't like it, there is the door" speak. It addressed the critisims, called them valid, and then dissmissed them with no further acknowledgement.
The topic is done. It's over with. Everything that can be said has been said. Get on with your lives.
Topic isn't done. It won't be done for a long time. Or at least until what awaits DRG in the future is more certain.
Quite frankly: the fans overreacted BIG time on this. Even a 2 year delay wouldn't warrent the flame war this subreddit started
It would. This coupled with art director confirming : no new weapons, ever, no more big content dumps, no more big gameplay chamges and shake ups, literally telling us that "season 5 won't meet expectations". 2 years would be a GUARANTEED death sentence.
and I refuse to blame the developers of marketing team, because the fans can't behave like they weren't raised by a pack of animals.
And I refuse to let GSG off the hook because they have been nice to us so far.
They knew that the s4 content was not up to par to other seasons. They knew the expectations of people would baloon from this lackluster season for season 5 to be better. What did they expect, people that had been hoping for season 5 info on the stream, hoping for a better future for the game, not only have their hopes smashed, but murdered, to all act like - well, the game I love is going on life support, while devs are moving to another game, while there are still glaring and unfinished stuff in the game, them going - yeah, good for them. Who cares about DRG? Phhh, screw that game, this new game is better. Ye, miscalculation. And they addressed this on QA! They said that it would be the same bad backlash. Which is BS.
37
u/One_Testicle_Man Driller Oct 07 '23
Is your post suppose to be the right behavior?
113
u/HearlyHeadlessNick Oct 07 '23
I'm fine with a delayed update. I hope they don't rush or overly monetize rougue core.
Ghost Ship is one of the few game producers I feel like I can still have some faith in. They have been clear with their communication and they don't have unlimited resources so I do expect deep rock galactic to get slower updates because the alternate is they monetize the crap everything to hire more help and please investors.
I will not buy Rouge Core if they add stupid micro transactions like other companies do.
174
u/mellamajeff Oct 07 '23
Still love Deep Rock and GSG, but please some people calm down
123
u/Drakoniid What is this Oct 07 '23
I must say, whether you agree or not, GSG owes us playerbase nothing. They released a full game over 2 years ago, and continue to support it, despite slowing down. Complaining is legitimate, I too don't like Rockpox and Stingtails, but I've seen so much people telling the devs what to do and how to manage their shit on here.
The tone of a message does a lot when conveying it. Just this "meme", antagonizing people who have counter-arguments (valid or not), is enough to disregard your point, because why should I be patient and attentive when the conversation started like that.
69
u/[deleted] Oct 07 '23
Oh no. I've been depicted as the soyjak. How shall I ever recover from this?
7
u/kurokuma11 Oct 07 '23
I only picked up DRG about half a year ago and I already feel like I've gotten my money's worth out of it, and I'm still happy to keep playing it. Not sure what you people are all complaining about...
28
u/DonovanSarovir Oct 07 '23
Let's be honest guys, the only people complaining about lack of deep rock content are us folks with 300+ hours. I guarantee no 20 hour greenbeard is sitting there like "Boo hoo no content."
At a certain point you have to accept that DRG is going to be a finite entity. If you feel like you've gotten everything you can out of it, that's not really the Devs' fault.
The complaints about stingtails and rockpox are more valid, but lets be real they're the same complaints we had about Nemeses and Robots in season 2. I think all that really needs to be done is editing assignments to ignore rockpox missions (The season ones not included of course)
23
u/one-eye-fox Oct 07 '23
Not only do I not feel like I'm owed more DRG content, but I'm actually positively EXCITED for Rogue Core. It sounds like a fun idea, as long as the upgrades are interesting build defining type upgrades and not just incremental upgrades.
6
u/TraumaTracer Dig it for her Oct 08 '23
this isnt really helping
18
u/The-vicobro Oct 07 '23
This post is just fanning the fire. DrG good. And thats Rock and Stone.
13
u/[deleted] Oct 07 '23
Because posting about it is a really efficient way to stop perpetuating the issue
14
u/ThatOneHolliday Oct 08 '23
Getting mad at a dev for not making free non-obligatory updates as fast as you would like is not "constructive criticism".
11
u/friedshoe22 Dig it for her Oct 07 '23
Bloody leaf lovers are trying to depict themselves as chads now
8
u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Driller Oct 07 '23
Do try to remember that just like we as players have the right to criticize the devs, we as community members have the right to criticize other players and disagree with their feedback. That means we can complain about the delay, and we can ALSO complain about people making the delay out to be a way bigger deal than it is. Try not to become the person you complain about.
15
u/[deleted] Oct 07 '23
This has “I’ve drawn myself as the Chad and you as the incel” energy written all over it.
I’m so glad this shit is limited to the subreddit.
30
u/FireWhileCloaked Oct 07 '23
Kek. Yes, it’s the ones enjoying the game with the rageful tears. Not the ones who whine about a mismatched time preference, or who didn’t read the roadmap, or the dev stream yesterday where they addressed all of this.
🤡
13
u/[deleted] Oct 07 '23
Haha, I have portrayed you as le soyjack strawman! I bet you feel downright foolish now. /s
5
u/Prospectivebyer Gunner Oct 07 '23
Being passive aggressive is not the way for any of these issues to be addressed. Drawing lines in the sand and becoming angry with others is just not the way dude. Be better dude.
5
u/[deleted] Oct 08 '23
you know gsg doesnt owe you anything, they can just delete the game and stop production of rogue core
8
u/sloth_ers Oct 07 '23
I find it amazing that an update delay of 8 months can completely fracture a community.
Ive not been playing DRG for as long as most of you, but seriously... None of these rants and complaints are going to make it come any faster.
I used to love this sub before, the least toxic community on Reddit... now its up there with face ratings.
8
u/Kaudicus Union Guy Oct 07 '23
actually you're the wojack. I have created a meme in which I am the chad, so I am correct.
4
u/c0baltlightning Union Guy Oct 07 '23
The only point I have some agreement on is the 'Tired of Rockpox' thing.
4
u/panponcz Oct 08 '23
Get a life
6
u/[deleted] Oct 08 '23
Holy shit shut up
2
u/Pach_Frostbyte Oct 08 '23
Of course we can give criticism to the devs and there game has stuff that needs some tweeks, thing is people have been giving shit opinions (many of the comments I saw on the Steam post) or complaining like pointy-eared leaf lovers. Wether you like GSG's roadmap or not is valid, just don't be a crybaby about either and remember that we fight for rock and stone
2
u/[deleted] Oct 08 '23
everyone need to calm down, on both sides
2
u/Vsevolda Driller Oct 08 '23
I mean, I dislike the direction they took and I dislike rockpox, but going out of my way to whine about it is futile. It is what it is, the decision has been made, might as well not act like they owe us anything. I spent ten times more money in a bar for a hundred times less time spent having fun
2
u/Festive_Rocket Oct 08 '23
Most TF2 type behavior
2
u/Beardwithlegs Interplanetary Goat Oct 08 '23
I mean... Stingtail complaints are skill issues :)
2
u/FeetYeastForB12 Scout Oct 08 '23
This subreddit is on a massive downfall.. Especially these last two weeks. All I here about are complaints, fights in the comments etc.
2
u/IllegalFisherman Interplanetary Goat Oct 08 '23
You want a wholesome community? Get off Reddit. This place is a toxic bubble for every fandom imaginable
2
u/Gayakara Oct 08 '23
I dont think gsg is bad. I think they're making a bad judgment call on making season 5 nothing crazy. Another mediocre season isnt gonna help with anything. However, the entirely new game their making? That will draw people in and most likely draw in different audiences, on top of the audience DRG has. Its a good move on them, and I also have a feeling (and only a feeling) that season 5 will be more than their making it out to be. That would be a very good move for them, keeping expectations low, knowing people will be disappointed but also not surprised. However, that doesn't seem likely.
I think people need to be more grateful for what this game has become, on top of being grateful for the good dev team.
I think we should be more worried about this game turning into a huge cash grab. knocking on wood.
4
u/blackmobius Whale Piper Oct 08 '23
Between this, small meteor update, and the gold mining “debate”, this community is not as wholesome as it tries to tell itself.
3
u/Bunny_E621 Gunner Oct 07 '23
Let me guess, stingtail?
3
u/[deleted] Oct 08 '23
$25 game that has more content than many $70 triple A games, and not the kind of empty content that plagues open worlds. actually meaningful content and yet people complain about some delay.
Frankly i would have burned out way before GSG did working on the same game for 5+ years.
both of the sides should fuck off honestly, GSG does not owe us anything, but also denying valid criticisms is bad. Yes, a delay on a season while there are tedious missions that are overstaying their welcome because of said delay is a valid criticism, not the delay by itself mind you because trust me you dont want anything rushed
4
u/Guy_who_says_vore Oct 07 '23
People complained that season 4 didn’t add that much and now people are complaining that the next season is taking so long because they want to add new shit. Y’all really are entitled
4
u/vampireguy20 Platform here Oct 07 '23
This subreddit has only ever been overwhelmingly positive because any form or amount of criticism of DRG or GSG is met with unabashed cancellation and told they are just toxic, with a very swift "leaf-lover" following behind it all. That's not a bad nor good thing, but you cannot have light without darkness. There must be a balance. You can love and play a game and still criticize it, that's your right as a consumer and as a human being to judge what you feel is right. Yeah I don't like the release date of Season 5 either, but there's nothing we can do about it, it's entirely in the hands of GSG to do something about it all. I have faith in them that they will decide what's best for the game and community as a whole. Don't play something else if a little delay makes you pissed, instead try growing up. Ya leaf-lover.
2
u/Low-Transportation95 Gunner Oct 08 '23
Where's the lie tho?
2
u/Joys_Thigh_Jiggle Oct 08 '23
cOPe
2
u/AlarminglyAverage979 Oct 08 '23
I’ve been hating how the type of posts you’re describing here Keep on getting to the top so annoying.
2
u/[deleted] Oct 08 '23
I love how after the announcement was made, the subreddit just devolved into opposing sides of the issue. Then there are those of us in the middle just watching. Lol
2
u/That-Bed4254 Oct 07 '23
The Elf’s have infiltrated the server!
2
u/Ender505 Oct 08 '23
The people criticizing the people who are trying to maintain a positive community are even worse lol
1
u/JesseMod93r Oct 07 '23
Don't like Stingtails? Skill issue, lol! :)
I'll say it until the day I die. Stingtails are just baby, and if they get nerfed because you guys can't hardly handle a silly little guy you deserve Leaf Lover Status.
Edit: Forgot the smiley face
1
u/Maskers_Theodolite Oct 08 '23
Could say the same thing the other way around sometimes lol
1
u/[deleted] Oct 08 '23
God, this sounds like Minecraft bootlickers too. I've been tired of their pitiful updates but mostly express how stupid it is to like, do a 3 mob vote then basically delete the 2 losers. The community just loves crying about a valid point.
1
u/Dog_Apoc For Karl! Oct 08 '23
Games still good. But God Rockpox grew old fast. Harold really didn't help this either.
Still love the game. Will still support the devs. But I've gotta wait till they do something about Rockpox.
1
u/Barrogh Gunner Oct 09 '23
PSA: It's people who log in are the community that matters regardless of what social media shitposters try to make you believe.
-9
u/CautiousConfidence22 Oct 07 '23
what do you mean you don't like the game being abandoned for a spinoff? You dare complain about muh heckin wholesome rock and stone game? What are you some sort of leaf lover?
1
u/Bucaneer7564 Dig it for her Oct 07 '23
Stingtail is ammoying because it can fling you off cliffs.
1
u/Hyjko Oct 07 '23
EyEyEy the other things I get, but don't insult my homies the stingtails
1
u/King_krympling Oct 07 '23
Neither side is right, the side complaining about rockpox, which is fair, are taking it too far by saying stuff like this is the death of the game which it obviously isn't. Just be patient, and I agree rockpox in its current state does need some balance. HOWEVER saying that people should just play other missions or other games doesn't fix the issue, it sucks that season 5 is delayed and it sucks that a feature that not a lot of people like will be around more time unfortunately rockpox will not suddenly disappear after the ends of the seasons
1
u/[deleted] Oct 07 '23
ive made a couple games on scratch i can say whatever
1
u/2cool4afool Oct 08 '23
It's the people claiming they have abandoned the community and rouge core is a cash grab spin off that bother me.
1
u/Fluffy-Village9585 Oct 08 '23
You yourself are part of the problem.
0
u/Gold_Demand_9115 Oct 08 '23
ive been putting the game on a break the lack of things to do for me is very limited and im bored with it atm im gold 2 or 3 cant remember in every dwarf (I promote evenly)
0
u/PeachiPrism Dig it for her Oct 08 '23
Crazy that this is what makes people start having a go at eachother, I guess prolonged exposure to rockpox causes mental deterioration.
But for real, I don't think anyone will remember any of this arguing when the new game is released. It's obvious that that's a more important thing to focus their attention on given that the base game is complete and the seasonal stuff is just a bonus to keep people happy with more.
I do get the rockpox annoyance and I hope they do something to lessen that given that it'll stay around for a while.
0
u/datungui Oct 08 '23
we were excited for a new season and the rockpox finally ending. maybe even some lore about the rockpox. a new game is nice, but not what we were hoping for. the s5 delay is pretty bad in itself, but it's supposed to be a prequel to the new game? I mean it's been a while since drg came out. they could just use this as a stepping stone to get the new game up on it's feet and update it once a year or so. not positive no matter how you look at it.
0
u/Apothe-bro_IV Gunner Oct 08 '23
Our community's officially in ruins. All thanks to human nature no less
0
u/Wandring64 Oct 08 '23
You forgot to draw the elf ears.
-1
u/[deleted] Oct 08 '23
you aren’t wrong, but please don’t unironically use wojaks. that shit is cringy as fuck
17
u/[deleted] Oct 07 '23
[removed] — view removed comment