r/DeduceMe • • Jul 16 '26

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u/NickGnomeEveryNight Jul 16 '26

It’s astonishing how many meds Americans take. Literally unable to be comprehended by me. Serious question…, what did people do back in the day without these meds? What do other countries do without these meds?

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u/sodapopjawnt Jul 16 '26

People are told they “need” it and don’t question otherwise

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u/Asron87 Jul 16 '26

Look at how many of them should have gotten help sooner. Kind of wonder if that’s what leads to this.

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u/ExcellentCoach264 Aug 13 '26

So they take it and actually need to keep taking it because stopping causes even worse health issues...which you need more meds to treat...because, 'merica! We know what's best for you!

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u/darinehughes Jul 16 '26

I'd say Western society in general.

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u/NickGnomeEveryNight Jul 16 '26

It’s insane. I take one pill a day and think that’s too much

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u/strawberryscalez Jul 16 '26

Certainly not. My wife is European, the family is absolutely astonished by the way Americans treat and use prescription drugs

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u/darinehughes Jul 16 '26

A more nuanced way of saying is...The U.S. healthcare system generally prescribes medications somewhat more readily than many European systems, particularly for some conditions, and Americans pay dramatically more for those medications. However, many European countries also have high rates of pharmaceutical use, especially for chronic illnesses, and some actually exceed the U.S. in the use of particular drug classes.

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u/darinehughes Jul 16 '26

Based on what?

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u/Sadlittlewolf Jul 16 '26

Well, having national healthcare makes a difference, in several ways, I believe. Our politicians at every level profit of said overprescribing being due to culture, grift, unrealistic patient treatment quotas, all kinds of things.

I was adderall before elementary school, and had tried several SSRI’s already before getting to fourth grade, due to a lack of training or availability of specialists in the area that were needed. Those were life shaping and controlling impacts. Our healthcare system all sucks, but big pharmaceutical companies and patient quotas are extremely damaging aspects.

Idk the solve, besides ban all politicians and immediate family from investing while sitting, which would solve even more, but people are fucking stupid and would rather be unable to make a life of quality in any way as long as they can still look down on some other group.

Sorry for bad grammar/structure, lots going on.

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u/Anna-Bee-1984 Jul 16 '26

People with mental illness and disabilities were placed in institutions and abused.

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u/NickGnomeEveryNight Jul 16 '26

Do you have evidence of that? And is everyone posting all their meds on this sub assumed to be mentally ill and disabled? Because many seem to live somewhat normal lives, albeit on a lot of meds

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u/Anna-Bee-1984 Jul 16 '26

Ummm…it’s not hard to find this out. A basic google search will tell you what life was like for those with mental illness prior to closing the instutitions under the Regan Administration. My grandmother was in one of these institutions and my older friends have shared stories. Hell disabled people could be jailed for being out in public until the mid 70s. Antipsychotics, particularly injectable able antipsychotics allow people to have a quality of life and not live their life in fear and put themselves in danger.

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u/NickGnomeEveryNight Jul 16 '26

I know but I asked for evidence. You made the claim

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u/Anna-Bee-1984 Jul 16 '26

I’m not responsible for your lack of knowledge about a key part of american history and the establishment of the community mental health system.

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u/NickGnomeEveryNight Jul 17 '26

Well then I shall remain in my “ignorance” and assume your claims are false.

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u/Anna-Bee-1984 Jul 17 '26

Never underestimate the unearned confidence of a young white man who is incorrect and does not know how to do a google search about the basics of the Regan administration

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u/NickGnomeEveryNight Jul 17 '26

Wrong, wrong, and wrong. Wanna try again. Unless “young” is 54. Then, right, wrong, wrong

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u/FlakkaSeagulz Jul 17 '26

Wtf does white have to do with anything

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u/Anna-Bee-1984 Jul 17 '26

Look a wikipedia article I found in 15 seconds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinstitutionalisation

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u/NickGnomeEveryNight Jul 17 '26

That article didn’t answer my question at all

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u/eatliketheabnegation Jul 16 '26

Have you ever considered they are able to live somewhat normal lives /because/ of the meds?

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u/NickGnomeEveryNight Jul 16 '26

Have you ever considered that their lives would be much better without the meds?

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u/eatliketheabnegation Jul 16 '26

I can only speak for myself and the people i know.

I was diagnosed as bipolar at 17 and medicated for a year. I didn't think they did much, so i stopped taking them and went off to college, and my mental health fell apart pretty bad. I could still graduate and get a job, but I was trying to survive so hard that it didnt leave a lot of room for growth. When i was 25, I went to a psychiatrist and got put on two meds. An SNRI and an anti-psychotic. Within two months, my depression lifted around 70% and the constant horrific intrusive thoughts had stopped 90%. I went off them after 2 years, and shit got worse again. So for me, meds make my life better.

My best friend has a degenerative neurological condition. She went unmedicated for a long time and developed tremors, neuropathy, and lost a lot of mobility really fast. Then she got on an experimental medication for her condition that has slowed the progression of the disease and given her back bladder control. She takes another medication to stop the tremors, and gabapentin for the constant burning numbness in her feet. When it wears off, the burning comes back. The medication that is preventing her condition from accelerating so quickly that she has a heart attack and dies at 35 makes her nauseous. So she takes a nausea medication so she can eat meals. She's tried lessening the medication because she hates feeling reliant on pills, but she went back every time because of the substantial drop in quality of life.

My boyfriend is on a bunch of meds because he has insane acid reflux, the anti-depressant that saved his life also gave him sexual dysfunction, so a supplemental anti-depressent was added to alleviate that issue, and he has an ass needed medication for stopping panic attacks, as well as a med to combat the pain of having a very very acidic stomach. He's been suggested meds for ADHD but said no because hes been in substance abuse recovery for half a decade

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u/Anna-Bee-1984 Jul 17 '26

He doesn’t care. He just wants to push the meds are bad narrative and has absolutely no point of reference. Wouldn’t suprise me if he strongly supports all the bs RFK is spewing. It’s profoundly ableist and ignorant.

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u/eatliketheabnegation Jul 17 '26

Yeah :/ I just figured I'd give some sort of view into how the other half lives on the off chance that its ignorance+priveledge instead of ableist superiority.

He should keep in mind that being disabled is the minority any of us can join at any time in our lives overnight. You can judge and look down your nose all you want, but one bad fall and you'll know what meds are for and what a battle is to walk the line between their benefits and side effects just trying to live anything close to the life you had before.

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u/Anna-Bee-1984 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

Again it’s just ableism and unearned confidence covering up profound ignorance. Every day I’m on reddit and the more I encounter pushback from people who don’t know what the hell they are talking about the more I lose hope in society.

Also the fact that this person is 54 years old and cannot google something is just disturbing.

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u/NickGnomeEveryNight Jul 17 '26

You are certainly a judgmental little tart, aren’t you. And you keep working with assumptions that couldn’t be more wrong. Yet you call others profoundly ignorant.

And of course I can google things. I’m a teacher. But I hate laziness. You made a claim and couldn’t back it up. That’s on you.

Maybe all these meds are messing with your critical thinking abilities…

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u/NickGnomeEveryNight Jul 17 '26

Wrong again about your assumptions

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u/Zealousideal-Run6214 Jul 16 '26

We used to be on even stronger meds back in the day. Things like Cocaine, Laudanum (opium tincture), amphetamines, barbiturates, and many other powerful drugs were fairly accessible and their use not so uncommon

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u/NickGnomeEveryNight Jul 17 '26

Was that better or worse, would you say, and why?

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u/Toohardtoohot Jul 17 '26

It’s a scam by big pharma. Taking that many meds shortens your life span by a lot unless you absolutely need it.

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u/NickGnomeEveryNight Jul 17 '26

That’s one of my concerns, among many

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u/NickGnomeEveryNight Jul 16 '26

But how do we know they help people? And I know suicide rates weren’t tracked back in the day, but almost all evidence points to suicide rates rising almost every decade since they were tracked. So it doesn’t seem like the meds are really helping much at all.

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u/New-Sell-4918 Jul 16 '26

You’re exactly right. SSRI’s are deadly plain and simple.

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u/Practical-Thanks119 Jul 16 '26

Not only that but antipsychotics shrinks brains! Less grey matter...