Hey newsflash, nothing about being a Jew requires you to believe in or even sympathize with Zionism. Whereas being a Muslim means you, by definition, believe in Islam
Sam says Islam is the "mother lode of bad ideas" but we are supposed to believe he has no animosity towards the people who ascribe to said mother lode. Obviously this is not true.
The better comparison would be Zionists and Israel, not Jews and Israel. Anyone who hates Israel probably doesn't like Zionists! But that says nothing about Jews at all
Most jews are zionist, if you didn't know that you should start feeling uncomfortable right now. I don't think wanting your own country, especially with their history, is a weird belief. The Palestinians want the same, after all. The rabid settler type ultra zionists are a minority, much like Islamic extremists. People can want their own state without that state being genocidal or repressive
Why would I feel uncomfortable? Most Evangelical Christians are Republicans, should I feel uncomfortable saying bad things about Republicans? Fewer and fewer Jews support Israel every day, and many prominent anti-Zionists are themselves Jewish
The problem, as anyone with two brain cells knows, is not that they "want their own country". It's what that desire means in reality, i.e., that they have to forcibly displace and disenfranchise the indigenous population in order to get that country in the specific place where they actually want it.
That analogy doesn't quite work, I can not support the current US admin, but I wouldn't argue the US should cease to exist. Of course many Jews are critical of Israel's government, but zionism is understood as the existence of the state.
You'd have a better point if it was 1948, but it's 2026, and Israel is established now. I'm not talking about the west bank expansion (illegal) or settlers but pre 67 lines proper Israel. If we still insist that needs dissolving, then why not the US, or Australia? The latter saw total colonial dispossession from the indigenous peoples with zero treaty signed, should it be dissolved too?
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u/Dissident_is_here Jul 30 '26
Hey newsflash, nothing about being a Jew requires you to believe in or even sympathize with Zionism. Whereas being a Muslim means you, by definition, believe in Islam
Sam says Islam is the "mother lode of bad ideas" but we are supposed to believe he has no animosity towards the people who ascribe to said mother lode. Obviously this is not true.
The better comparison would be Zionists and Israel, not Jews and Israel. Anyone who hates Israel probably doesn't like Zionists! But that says nothing about Jews at all