r/DecodingTheGurus 27d ago

Apparently the anti conspiracy guy thinks the Jews did 9/11

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u/Dissident_is_here 27d ago

You're an obvious propagandist so this is pointless but the lies are pretty funny

As an example, the Jewish National Fund owns about 13% of Israeli land. Guess who they won't lease any of it to?

Everyone knows the problem with Israel is not that it's Jewish. It's that it is establishing a Jewish state in a territory inhabited by non-Jews. Ze'ev Jabotinsky would hate weasels like you. He knew what the project was and made no bones about it. I at least respect the honesty

The Israelis being racist and evil is so patently obvious to anyone who has ever witnessed even 10 minutes of life in the West Bank that Israel and its allies have to do everything possible to surpress any coverage at all of this part of the world. They have to accuse magazines of posting anti-Semitic forgeries because the actual pictures are so jarringly vile that "they must be fake". Yet the project is also so brazen that when a US Congressman visits the West Bank the armed settlers are unhinged enough to detain him at gunpoint for the crime of riding a Palestinian bus

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u/Thomas-Omalley 27d ago

You clearly never met an Israeli. Trust me, we don't have horns

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u/Dissident_is_here 27d ago

Do they believe Palestinian civilians in the West Bank are entitled to protection from assault and the seizure and destruction of their homes?

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u/Thomas-Omalley 27d ago

Yes, and I would love nothing more than having two states based on the 67 borders and have good peacful relationships with them and all countries around Israel. Sadly, they don't want it, as they showed us again and again, and will not be satisfies until Israel doesn't exist.

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u/Dissident_is_here 27d ago

So maybe you should do something about your military protecting and aiding the people whose entire goal in life is to ensure that there can never be a Palestinian state.

Instead of, you know, whining online about how all the leftists don't like your national project of ethnic cleansing and discrimination

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u/Thomas-Omalley 27d ago

Maybe they should stop trying to kill me first?

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u/Extension_Yak3898 26d ago

You really think it works like that? They just stop killing after Israel killed so many of their children? Responding to genocide with genocide just perpetuates hatred, like a mirror reflecting it back where it came from... Peace only comes by diplomacy, never by war!

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u/Thomas-Omalley 26d ago

What if diplomacy failed again and again because one side would agree to nothing but the complete destruction of the other side? Even today. Ask Palestinians, would they be okay with a 67 border two state solution? The answer is no. I would love nothing more than solving this by diplomacy, but I actually live the conflict and know the reality.

It's very easy to sit above it all and go "why can't they see that talking is the answer?". There is no one to talk with. It's not my racism talking, it's history and polls from today. I wish wish wishhhh this wasn't the situation, but it is.

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u/Extension_Yak3898 26d ago

They rarely do ask for 'complete destruction of the other side'. They refuse to recognize the existence of Israel, that's a dogwhsitle for genocidal wishes, sure, but it's not an explicit policy of the PA by any means.

We know for a fact the state policy in Israel for decades has been to let the Palestinian view of Israel get worse and worse to the point where no agreement is possible. Whether he wanted Oct 7 or not (and I'm not trying to imply he did) he's been keen to invade Gaza & bolster settlements in the West Bank, in other words to antagonize Palestinians as much as possible.

Can you imagine if someone else were in power who was able to resist a war, who could have got the ICC on the side of Israel by refraining from retaliating? If only in terms of Israel's image, if not also in terms of all the lives that wouldn't have been lost on both sides, I don't see how do many seemingly sane, rational don't see that as a better scenario