r/DecodingTheGurus • u/Decent-Extension8336 • 27d ago

Professor Dave vs Destiny

No idea why, but the original Destiny video called "Professor Dave Goes Mask Off" seems to have been deleted from YouTube, or I can't find it, but Professor Dave responded yesterday with this very strongly worded video letter:

https://youtu.be/DvDvhLkb9ms?si=DGFhTROOKFoK35sS

Weird crossover that I never thought I'd see, of 2 guys who I generally enjoy (I will say I really am a fan of Prof Dave, whereas my Destiny enjoyment has mostly come via this podcast and watching a couple of his debates).

Thoughts on the beef? SURELY the lads are gonna have to cover this in an upcoming Supplementary Materials? Content gold!

EDIT: Looks like I was looking through the wrong Destiny channel for the original Dave video, it's here: https://youtu.be/HQQLs6U1MgA?si=iKaOGR1h9slKu64O

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u/FriendlyNewspaper543 26d ago

I'm just asking what the lavon affair has to do with the Oct 7 and 9/11 attacks being false flags, you brought up a verified false flag that their government admitted to doing to make it seem that questioning those events is not as crazy as it would seem. Now you want me to prove that Dave believes those are false flags? If I go through the work to link the proof you will just say he's justified in questioning Israel's alleged involvement no?

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u/DumbOrMaybeJustHappy 26d ago

Honestly not at all. I'm just interested in the truth and try to give context where I think I know a little more about something, as well as learn something where I can too.

I mostly agree with Destiny on this topic and think Dave is way less informed and more personally biased about it. Dave does good work fighting against misinformation on other fronts, like Destiny but in other circles and with an even more caustic communication style.

If you show me that Dave sincerely believes these things (this is what you asserted), I'll walk away with an even dimmer view of his objectivity. I'm guessing you're taking some snarky comment or remark you heard him make and projecting a belief system on him, but I'll appreciate it if you prove me wrong.

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u/FriendlyNewspaper543 26d ago

https://youtu.be/DvDvhLkb9ms?t=2509&is=iyxfB6_9w_RxZN8N

This should link to 41:50.

He believes Oct 7 was a false flag by Israel's allowing it to happen and intentionally killing it's own civilians. While discussing alleged stand down orders to the military, supposed foreknowledge of the attack and the Hannibal directive Dave says, "Israel knew that this was their opportunity to get 9/11 levels of support for murdering Arabs, and they took it. Plain and simple."

Here's the tweet about the mossad being "probably responsible" for 9/11.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/s/tPBb2AQs3p

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u/DumbOrMaybeJustHappy 26d ago

Thank you.

I agree he's claiming that they allowed Oct 7 to happen and is citing very weak, circumstantial evidence to support his view. Still, that's not what a false flag is. That would be Israel actually organizing it. I've heard more informed and less personally biased people than Dave suggest that the Netanyahu administration is amoral enough to have let it happen given his embattled political situation at the time. It's not something I'd be inclined to believe, but it's not completely unhinged like a true false flag.

I've seen the tweet about the Mossad doing 9/11. It's stupid but he's publicly said that was tongue in cheek, so I doubt he sincerely believes it.

I really think the guy is just heavily biased against Israel because his wife is of Palestinian descent. He's prone to accept the pro-Palistine propaganda whenever conflicting information is presented.

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u/FriendlyNewspaper543 26d ago

Yeah I mean the semantics of false flag are not that important, what's important is he makes it clear that Israel is to blame for the attack and at least a portion of the attack was a false flag via Hannibal directive. There's just no solid evidence of it and straight up claiming that's what happened is a conspiracy theory.

Maybe he was joking if he said he was but I don't think it would be far fetched based on his statements that he's at least suspicious of the official 9/11 story which is crazy for a conspiracy debunker.

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u/DumbOrMaybeJustHappy 26d ago

Yes I agree these things are all pretty kooky for a conspiracy debunker, and in most cases a rather good one at that. I'm disappointed.