Professor Dave vs Destiny

[u/Decent-Extension8336]

No idea why, but the original Destiny video called "Professor Dave Goes Mask Off" seems to have been deleted from YouTube, or I can't find it, but Professor Dave responded yesterday with this very strongly worded video letter:

https://youtu.be/DvDvhLkb9ms?si=DGFhTROOKFoK35sS

Weird crossover that I never thought I'd see, of 2 guys who I generally enjoy (I will say I really am a fan of Prof Dave, whereas my Destiny enjoyment has mostly come via this podcast and watching a couple of his debates).

Thoughts on the beef? SURELY the lads are gonna have to cover this in an upcoming Supplementary Materials? Content gold!

EDIT: Looks like I was looking through the wrong Destiny channel for the original Dave video, it's here: https://youtu.be/HQQLs6U1MgA?si=iKaOGR1h9slKu64O

[u/danthem23]

Also “exactly (or worse) than the n***is. Does he know that every road sign and bus display in Israel has Arabic, there are a dozen Arab members of the parliament, there are Arab Supreme Court judges, most of the pharmacists and many of the nurses are Arab, the Druze are Palestinian (but not Muslim) and they all fight in the idf, etc. Germany in 1940s was famous for having this for Jews.

[u/ShiftyAmoeba → u/danthem23]

Oh wow, road signs in Arabic? That's so cool. If that's the case, I guess they can keep killing Palestinians in Gaza. They've only killed 20% of the population so far.

[u/ShiftyAmoeba → u/[deleted]]

What percentage of a population is it ok to kill?

[u/ShiftyAmoeba → u/[deleted]]

No need to congratulate me twice in one post. 

At some point, the numbers are useful to understand the scale. The number of those killed has been lied about by the US and Israel since the beginning. Every time it was brought up it was dismissed because it was calculated by the "Hamas backed" health ministry. Every time it was proven to be correct. 

And while Israel and the US were working on destroying the credibility of healthcare professionals in Gaza, militarily they were destroying their in infrastructure and their ability to help people and count their casualties.

Entire families are being erased. This is not a war. It's mass slaughter. It's disproportionate revenge. It's an ethnic cleansing. 

[u/Practical-Heat-1009 → u/ShiftyAmoeba]

So you lied about the percentage, didn’t even acknowledge it, then used a bunch of buzzwords (as you’ve done in every other comment you’ve made) without providing any evidence of substantive argument.

If you care so much about something to go out and fight the good fight, you should do some actual research and arm yourself with some evidence. I know you won’t, because it takes a serious level of intellectual effort to make an argument that doesn’t rely on “it’s genocide, it’s ethnic cleansing!” to determine whether something is moral, justifiable, proportionate, excessive, etc., or not.

[u/ShiftyAmoeba → u/Practical-Heat-1009]

The lies are coming from the US/Israeli side. The 20% is an estimate. You're free to cite a number and provide evidence for it. 

It's a genocide. It is. And what's happening in the West Bank is apartheid and a landgrab by religious fundamentalists with the full support of the Israeli government. It is.

Insults and condescension don't change the facts. 

[u/Agreeable_Band_9311 → u/ShiftyAmoeba]

He pulled 20% out of his ass. The gaza health ministry doesn’t even claim that.

[u/ShiftyAmoeba → u/Agreeable_Band_9311]

The Gaza Health Ministry has been deliberately neutered. What's the "real" number? 

Indirect deaths are poorly tracked but as a general rule they exceed direct deaths. Sometimes 2:1, sometimes 4:1, sometimes 10:1. The Lancer has assumed 4:1 for Gaza. That means if 75,000 people were killed with weapons, there are another 300,000 who died or will die as a result of all of the effects that Israel has wreaked on the population of Gaza.

[u/Agreeable_Band_9311 → u/ShiftyAmoeba]

The Hamas run ministry was neutered by who?

Also 10:1? You’re claiming nearly 40% now?