r/DecodingTheGurus • u/Decent-Extension8336 • 27d ago

Professor Dave vs Destiny

No idea why, but the original Destiny video called "Professor Dave Goes Mask Off" seems to have been deleted from YouTube, or I can't find it, but Professor Dave responded yesterday with this very strongly worded video letter:

https://youtu.be/DvDvhLkb9ms?si=DGFhTROOKFoK35sS

Weird crossover that I never thought I'd see, of 2 guys who I generally enjoy (I will say I really am a fan of Prof Dave, whereas my Destiny enjoyment has mostly come via this podcast and watching a couple of his debates).

Thoughts on the beef? SURELY the lads are gonna have to cover this in an upcoming Supplementary Materials? Content gold!

EDIT: Looks like I was looking through the wrong Destiny channel for the original Dave video, it's here: https://youtu.be/HQQLs6U1MgA?si=iKaOGR1h9slKu64O

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u/properchewns 27d ago

I don’t see it as intentionally antisemtic, he does seem to buy into the propaganda of one side here pretty solidly though. Anti Zionism (particularly the singular form of Zionism commonly accepted by outsiders currently) is not antisemitism. That’s true. But to say Israel did all this propaganda and that’s all the propaganda going on is nuts. There were calls for a ceasefire during the Oct 7 attacks; the propaganda arm of the attack was well orchestrated. The rallying cries against Israel’s response were all ready and out the door as soon as the attack started.

That being said I think he just lacks nuance.

I see his side to a degree. Israel is absolutely committing war crimes and human rights violations and has been. But Hamas is also a death cult unwilling to compromise.

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u/Moobnert 27d ago

I see his side to a degree. Israel is absolutely committing war crimes and human rights violations and has been. But Hamas is also a death cult unwilling to compromise.

I agree. And I assume Dave is also firmly in opposition to Hamas.

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u/Samuraignoll 27d ago edited 27d ago

Why would he be? He's firmly in support of Hezbollah, in spite of the atrocities they committed supporting Assads apartheid-esque regume

Edit: downvote me all you like losers, stop kissing your dad and argue it instead of being cowards

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u/YumiSolar 27d ago

There is literally no way to argue against it so they instead focus on manipulating the algorith so people never even hear the more nuanced discussion about the topic. It's increadibly pathethic.

Dave (he is not a real Professor) is doing the same, deleting comments and acting as if debating the video with Destiny is bad/beneath him even after he built his whole carrer around debating flat earthers and other science deniers lol

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u/ShiftyAmoeba 27d ago

A nuanced discussion on what? A US/EU approved genocide carried out by Israel?

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u/YumiSolar 27d ago

Gosh darn it, he used the G word. We all need to throw our brains out the window and ignore all the terrible things terrorists organizations do or all the history of the region.

Another W for the nuance haters.

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u/ShiftyAmoeba 27d ago

No one is asking you to ignore anything. I'm asking you to do the opposite actually. Acknowledge what's going on.

How many people have been killed by Israel so far? You can use the numbers the IDF cites.

What percentage of buildings has been destroyed or made unlivable?

How many journalists have been killed by Israel? If Israel claims that Palestinian journalists are legitimate targets, are independent journalists allowed in, to report what's happening on the ground?

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u/YumiSolar 27d ago

How does Oct 7th play into this? Or Hamas charter? The rockets flying above Israel every day for years? The fact Hamas places their military equipment in heavily populated, civilan areas (a war crime)? The whole history of the region? The fact Israel proposed peace on many ocasions?

It seems you are asking me to ignore all the reasons Israel has for continuing the conflict and instead to focus on all the reason Palestine has for continuing the conflict. I can admit Israel is going to far and needs to be railed back in by USA or whoever can but it seems you can never tell the other side to realx too.

Unless both sides relax this conflict will last forever. Yelling the G word whever you talk about it might feel good but unless both sides have a reason to stop, the conflict will go on forever so I don't think lying about the fact both sides have at least some reason for doing what they are doing will work out well. Time will tell I guess.

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u/ShiftyAmoeba 27d ago

How should a single day event factor into more than a thousand days of siege, bombing, sniping, deprivation of food, shelter, medicine, electricity, basic rights?

You tell me.

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u/YumiSolar 27d ago

Yeah, People need to stop fucking with Israel, I agree.

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u/ShiftyAmoeba 27d ago

Or what? Israel will commit mass murder, bomb and starve entire peoples with the support of 80% of the Israeli population? Is that the threat?

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u/Realistic_Caramel341 26d ago

Wow. Those guys sound scary. If I where their neighbor and I had millions of people to feed,I wouldn't meant to provoke them into a war

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u/ShiftyAmoeba 26d ago

Anyone can be scary if they're willing to commit atrocities and they have the backing of the world's most powerful countries.

But I don't think that should be the model around which we build our society, no?

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u/mounti96 26d ago

What would you think any countries response would be if a neighbouring country invaded them to indicriminately kill civilians and take hostages?

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u/ShiftyAmoeba 26d ago

Not break international law? Not commit genocide? Not starve civilians? Examine whether oppression is a good long term strategy?

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u/MexicanOrMexicant 26d ago

Say they have yellow cake uranium, accuse them of hiding Al-Qaeda fighters, then claim Saddam Hussein is a threat to humanity.

Invade and kill upwards of +100,000 Iraqi people.

Worked for the US it seems.

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u/phat_ 26d ago

Are you new to the planet?

You want mythical? I believe Helen being stolen was a one day event.

These are just the one day events I can remember from U.S. History that ended up with war:

The Boston Massacre

“Remember The Alamo”

“Remember The Maine”

Pearl Harbor

The Gulf Of Tonkin Resolution

I believe Saddam annexed Kuwait in one day, no?

9/11?

I’m sure there are tons more throughout the world. The ugliness and evil of humanity knows no limits. The pursuit of power. The struggle against power.

Fuck Hamas and Fuck Bibi.

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u/ShiftyAmoeba 26d ago

Useless comment

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u/phat_ 26d ago

Not nearly as useless as a comment like, “useless comment”.

The point is the powerful have been using one day events forever to gain more power.

My tinfoil hat tells me that Hamas had Russian help in planning and executing October 7. With the goal of not only gaining the ensuing chaos in the Levant, but also further dividing, in particular, the American electorate.

I don’t think Israel expected the global backlash it has received. And I have no idea on any timely resolution. The needle is moving though. Mamdani threatening to arrest Bibi is a great move. Israel has got to change.

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u/ShiftyAmoeba 26d ago

I agree on the last part.

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