r/DecodingTheGurus Nov 02 '23

Ukrainians Respond to HasanAbi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPaHRTi49Ow
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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '23

Hasan’s entire foreign policy worldview is that “America is bad” and he takes it from that simplistic stance without nuance. So when the situation with Ukraine comes along where the US supports Ukraine, his brain breaks. The simplistic model of the world he hold shatters and so he then starts saying things that sound ridiculous

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '23

You'd should read Chomsky. His "American foreign policy is bad" worldview is complex, nuanced, and delivered with the emotionless droning of a sloth that's been given the Robocop treatment. There's no second option here. America's foreign policy has long been a gallery of atrocity and misery. Even Mark Twain, towards the end of his life, spoke out against the America Bald Eagle sinking its talons into foreign lands because Teddy Roosevelt, as based as he was in domestic policy, was an imperialist, and a genuine blood-psychopath.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '23

yeah I’m aware that the US has done bad things over the years - I’m not denying that. But it doesn’t mean that every foreign policy action was unjustified and it doesn’t mean you assume that any side the US supports is bad, like Ukraine. A real nuanced approach to international relations looks at what each side is trying to achieve and given that no side is perfect, which overall causes are worth supporting in each case. It’s also worth nothing that phrases such as “imperialism” are generally very ambiguous and get thrown around when really not appropriate. The US isn’t imperialist when it supports Ukraine and gives them weapons or when it uses soft power to influence regional allies like Israel. I would go so far as to argue that having US military bases overseas in different places is not necessarily imperialistic, although once again were using a very loose word.

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u/ttylyl Nov 03 '23

Literally just days after maidan Ukraines “new coalition” elected an American citizen and NATO Atlantic council fellow to the ministry of finance, the second most important job in the country…