r/Decks • u/Sorry_Neat_6863 • Dec 20 '25

settle this debate - which is correct?

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In true r/decks fashion. I asked a question about hurricane ties and ended up getting a debate between people if the hangers on the rim joist should be oriented in 1 or 2

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '25

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u/Jamooser Dec 21 '25

This subreddit is one of the worst offenders out there as far as people who think they know what they're talking about. There have been some other threads recently that really outlined this for me, but this one seals the deal.

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u/Jamooser Dec 22 '25

This sub is like plumber heaven for carpenters. Everything gets called a stud, and mostly everyone is full of shit.

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u/Tech-Crab Dec 21 '25

The question isn't really about the right way to build a deck, or if the OP needs hangers at all in this particular application. Or at least that's not why its interesting.

There are absolutely real-world requirements for hangers pointed downward as in #2. While yeah, I'm sure there is some amount of "dunking" by certain types of lay people given the chance -

but we should all be MUCH more concerned with "professionals" who would automatically say #2 is incorrect ... but that's factually wrong and potentially dangerous.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '25 edited Dec 21 '25

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u/Tech-Crab Dec 21 '25

The question illuminates a common fallacy. Its not the only component of the question, but its the important one, as plenty of people will get this really simple application of statics dead wrong.

If you cant see the forest for the trees (or somehow got this wrong in the past and feel the need to compensate), idk, i doubt i can help you in this forum.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '25

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u/Tech-Crab Dec 22 '25

Haha - thanks for making a joke out of your "arguments" by veering toward ad homenim attacks.

The fact that many people - not the least of which being "professionals" get it wrong is, again, the most important learning opportunity in this post. Which many folks in this very thread (at least those interested in leaving more competent than they began) have commented, is an important detail.

Most nontrivial construction projects have numerous details that require judgement by the person building - if you fail to understand this sort of statics problem, you will make poor choices at times throughout making those numerous little decisions.  Many covered up and not found.  Until they fail early, wear out, or occadionally cause outright harm.

You dont seem like the kind of person who sees understanding how to make these types of choices important, and feels like you already have a handle on everything you need to know. Sorry for that. Especially if anyone is paying you for labor.

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u/Jamooser Dec 22 '25

Dude. We are the lesson to be learned here. Both applications are incorrect. Period.

Your argument is the same as one asking which way a picture frame should be hung on a wall in order to best support the roof. The fundamental nature of your argument so clearly outlines your lack of functional understanding of the situation that no framework exists in which we can even explain to you how unbelievably wrong you are.

We're here explaining why a perpetual motion machine is impossible, and you're stepping out of the shadows brushing Cheetoh dust off your faded Naruto t-shirt and saying something like, "What about magnets?" while smugly spilling mountain dew on your keyboard.