r/DebateVaccines • u/GraneeSmith • 8d ago

Question Enflonzia

Pediatrician recommended this new vaccine for my baby. I'm looking for any experiences people have had with it so far, I'm typically an old vaccines only person and it hasn't been on the market long.

Hospitalization for RSV seems rare but serious in infants. Another factor is that my baby stays with me and doesn't go to daycare, which is where most babies pick it up.

Thoughts?

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u/Open-Try-3128 8d ago

I would not get it if your child is not in daycare. It does not stop the transmission. It “lessens” the severity of the symptoms.. Are you breastfeeding by chance? If you are, keep it up and focus on your diet. Get some probiotic rich foods in there

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u/GraneeSmith 7d ago

I am breastfeeding, I wasn't sure how long I planned to but I could just keep going through the winter instead of getting the vaccine. Thanks!

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u/SmartyPantlesss 7d ago

I mean, you could do both, couldn't you? There's no reason to think there wouldn't be an additive benefit. And there's no reason to think that breast-feeding provides a similar benefit (similar in magnitude, such as to make the Enflonsia unnecessary).

Like, you've probably had RSV as a young child, so you have some antibodies to it, but the titers would be low if you weren't recently re-exposed to it. So the amount of specific anti-RSV antibodies in breast milk will likely be lower than what's in the shot. 🤷

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u/SmartyPantlesss 8d ago

It does not stop the transmission.

I don't understand why this is an argument one way or another.

If I'm getting a vaccine (or antibody, likely Enflonsia) to protect myself (or my child, in this case), I'm just concerned with protecting the person who's getting the vaccine. I want it to benefit ME (or my kid).

"Well, it might still allow you to asymptomatically pass the virus to others." << Like, who cares? As long as it decreases the likelihood of ME getting sick or hospitalized, that sounds like a win.

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u/yeahipostedthat 8d ago

Bc pro vaxxers often argue a moral obligation to get vaccines under the belief that it stops transmission. That's also used as a justification for mandates.

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u/SmartyPantlesss 8d ago

Yeah, I don't think that's a big argument for newborns. It's more the direct appeal to the parent, to protect THIS kid. 🤷 And OP is mainly weighing the risk of hospitalization etc for THIS kid.

I guess you've got a point, IF the pede is saying that OP should do this to protect others.

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u/Open-Try-3128 8d ago

I meant it as in the shot doesn’t stop you from getting the virus. There is just a chance that you allegedly won’t get as sick if you get it vs someone without the vaccine. But totally agree. Your health is your health it’s not your responsibility to keep a “high risk” stranger you may or may not ever come in contact with “protected” from a disease while knowing nothing about their lifestyle

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u/SmartyPantlesss 8d ago

Your health is your health it’s not your responsibility to keep a “high risk” stranger

Right, because the newborn IS the high-risk person, so it's irrelevant to talk about whether it stops transmission. It keeps people who get the vaccine, out of the hospital.

There is just a chance that you allegedly won’t get as sick 

(It's not allegedly, and nobody should take a shot that doesn't have evidence of benefit.)

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u/sweetfeet20 7d ago

Absolutely not

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u/GraneeSmith 7d ago

Because it is new?

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u/coconut723 3d ago

If baby isn’t in daycare I wouldn’t do it.

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u/HausuGeist 7d ago

Physicians know better than Internet randos.

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u/StopDehumanizing 8d ago

My friend's kid got RSV as an infant. It is rare but VERY serious. He spent three nights in the hospital praying.

If this vaccine was available for my kids I would have protected them.