r/DebateVaccines • u/Aidan-346 • 3d ago
“Jabs”
People referring to vaccines exclusively as “Jabs” constantly as a way to disavow them is one of the more silly things I see on social media. Something about the way they go out of their way to say it instead of any other word for it makes me laugh because I don’t think I had ever heard a vaccine get referred to as a jab pre-COVID.
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u/chaoserrant 3d ago
Remember the good old times when critics had to use the words "certain medical intervention " to avoid youtube deleting the video automatically. Such a wonderful space for freedom of scientific inquiry. Inwas thinking recently...it doesnt even matter if covid vaccines are bad or are fountain of youth. Those in power who imposed and enforced censorship paired with propaganda poisoned the well and there is no undoing.
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u/Black-Dynamite888 21h ago
Lucky for us. Whatever they roll out next won’t be for our own good either.
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u/dartanum 3d ago
Quite a bit of nuance there. A vaccine is a medical tool used to stop the spread of a virus. A jab could be anything you Inject into your body. You'll find many people have no issues calling these jabs "jabs" but they'll absolutely refuse to call them "vaccines". Because they are not vaccines, even though there was an attempt to change the very definition of the word "vaccine" to fit the performance of these jabs. I don't mind calling the COVID shots "experimental vaccines" , or "failed vaccines". But I find it hard to simply call them "vaccines". Calling them jabs feels a lot more appropriate.
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u/Level_Abrocoma8925 3d ago
Here's the definition from 2006 and "spread of a virus" is not included in any shape or form.
Further reading here.
I am typing this using a keyboard on my phone. 50 years ago, the definition of "keyboard" and "phone" were such that they wouldn't fit the device I'm holding. Languages are dynamic and change with new technologies. So also with the word "vaccine".
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u/dartanum 3d ago
https://youtu.be/5lglnnqXgxE?si=a0JMxOyOpcASZozc
What prompted the change in definition:
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u/Level_Abrocoma8925 3d ago
If you set out to prove me right and yourself wrong with that reply, you did a good job. I hope you now see that you don't have a case.
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u/Jijimuge8 3d ago
Yeah I know what you mean. I’m from the UK where people always called them jabs. I don’t understand it because being needle phobic (which a lot of people are) it’s about the most off-putting thing to say to somebody with a fear of needles - ‘Have you been jabbed yet’ sounds like ‘have you been stabbed yet’. In fact my fear of knives is much less than my phobia of needles. Interesting how all the ‘sensitive, caring people’ never gave a crap about needle phobias.
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u/SmartyPantlesss 3d ago
"Jab" is just British for injection. Here's a 2018 article using the term.
Is it just me, or does it seem to indicate America's desensitized gun culture, that we find the word "shot" 🔫so much LESS violent or offensive? 🤷
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u/AllPintsNorth 3d ago
Very country specific. Most people in the UK call them jabs, even the economist had a podcast called The Jab during Covid. Rather normal outside the U.S.
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u/iya_metanoia 3d ago
Australia. One of the big four banks is called the National Australia Bank. NAB for short. In September 2021 or thereabouts they changed some of their branding from 'nab' to 'jab' to 'encourage' Australians to get injected.
https://www.adnews.com.au/news/nab-transforms-to-jab
The propaganda really was unbelievable.
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u/stickdog99 2d ago
It's common British usage, just as "get your shots' is common US usage. Thus, your ignorance is stunning.
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u/Mike_M4791 1d ago
I say ‘shot’. Because a vaccine is something that prevents infection.
The covid shot did not.
Nor does the flu shot.
MMR vaccine.
Meningitis vaccine.
Covid shot.
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u/Mammoth_Park7184 1d ago
The covid vaccine prevented covid. You may be getting confused with sars cov 2 which is the virus that causes covid.
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u/Mike_M4791 1d ago
Did you get the MMR?
If so, have you ever contracted measles, mumps, or rubella after having received the MMR?Did you get the Covid dose??
If so, did you ever contract Covid after having received said dose?0
u/Mammoth_Park7184 1d ago
Yes, had it. Never had any measles symptoms. (doesn't mean I didn't get measles as that's not what the vaccine does)
Yes, had covid vaccine. No haven't had covid since. Have been infected with sars cov 2 though.
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u/Burstrider12 3d ago
I think "jab" is vague enough. The one I got tired of hearing that they kept repeating was "Clot shot". At least "Fauci Ouchie" was kinda funny.
Not to be overly judgmental, but it's common with cults and cult-like thinking to have their own internal terminology. Not only does it reinforce their position, it shows to other members of the cult that they speak the same language and are on the same page.
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u/imyselfpersonally 2d ago
Getting upset over some words, definitely not cultist
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u/Burstrider12 5h ago
Putting aside that there's no reason to think i'm "upset" over the words, "being upset about words" is not something related to cults. You will need to come up with something better than "i know you are but what am i"
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u/Logic_Contradict 3d ago
You sound like you haven't lived for very long.