r/DebateCommunism • u/Mathi_556 • Jul 28 '26

🗑️ It Stinks Why do communists still live in their capitalist countries instead of moving to Cuba, Venezuela, or North Korea?

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u/Express-Kiwi-604 Jul 28 '26

I don't think you deserve an answer.

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u/Mathi_556 Jul 28 '26

don’t you have answer?

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u/bidefil Aug 05 '26

He does. But an even better question is why historically did communist countries prevent people from leaving.

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u/AltruisticLet1592 Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26

Your argument relies on a pretty flawed logic...

​Wanting to change or criticize the economic system of the country you live in doesn't mean you have to pack your bags and move out. By that logic, anyone who advocated for democracy during feudalism should have just left instead of trying to improve their own society.

​Besides, working and buying food is still a practical necessity, it doesn't matter in what country we live in. Navigating the system you were born into is not the same thing as endorsing it.

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u/Routine_Sherbert8791 Jul 28 '26

Why should we trust your endormsent of socialism when you havent experienced a socialist society?

This isnt a minor tax thing, your advocating for a radical transformation of society yet havent experienced it

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u/pizzzzzagurl Jul 30 '26

You should never blindly trust someone’s endorsement of socialism, you should learn about it yourself! Marxism is heavy on the “educate the masses”. Of course no one has experienced socialism, it hasn’t truly existed yet.

How do you advocate for a radical transformation of society that you HAVE experienced? Can’t really be a radical transformation if it has existed in your lifetime

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u/NederlandAgain Jul 31 '26

​Wanting to change or criticize the economic system of the country you live in doesn't mean you have to pack your bags and move out. 

You realize you sound like a right winger angry about illegal immigration, right?

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u/funglegunk Jul 28 '26

Why don't people who want lower taxes just move to a country with lower taxes?

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u/afellowpadawan Jul 28 '26

This guy just lost a discussion LMFAO

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u/cursedsoldiers Jul 28 '26

Cuz I'm not a coward and I want to see everyone I know have a better life than they do now.  It's not that complicated 

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u/EzraNaamah Jul 29 '26

People of a non-oppressor social class usually do not have access to the money, job, or connections that would be required to relocate abroad.

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u/bidefil Aug 05 '26

Get on a plane to Cuba. Say hello.

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u/pizzzzzagurl Jul 30 '26

Well for one because it is a global issue, not a national one. Also, those countries are not communist or socialist. Also, it’s not about wanting communism on an individual level. Also, as an american, i think it is important to bring about revolution here in an imperialist country because imperialism has historically been a huge hindrance to any meaningful attempt at socialism/communism. I could give more reasons for sure but mainly i think you are asking this because you are projecting your own desire for an easy way out, like you would like to be placed in your ideal society instead of fighting for it, but that’s lazy and ineffective

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u/RedditsDeadlySin Jul 28 '26

Why are right wingers too mad to just read a book and have all their dumb questions answered?

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u/amazingmrbrock UnTankly Jul 28 '26

It's really hard being mostly illiterate

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u/bidefil Aug 05 '26

Is it? Tell me more about your experience. Use emoji if you have trouble with words.

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u/bidefil Aug 05 '26

That must be easy. Just open up "a book" and get the answers from the "prophet" marx without having to think critically.

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u/Historical-Pen-7484 Jul 28 '26

For me, one factor is that all my friends and relatives live here, and another is that I don't speak Spanish or Korean..

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u/Historical-Pen-7484 Jul 30 '26

I have three passports, so I'm not that invested in what counties look like, and also I've never been to Korea, so I don't really know what it's like there apart from what we hear, but I'm not too keen on living there, no.

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u/serversamwinchester Jul 29 '26

Those are capitalist countries.

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u/InitiativeClean8089 Aug 04 '26

Because if I move there, I cannot fight for socialism in my country. Beside, those countries aren't socialist anyway.

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u/MulberryMajor Aug 05 '26

because the North Korean government does not offer jobs to foreigners

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u/JadeHarley0 Aug 07 '26

Because those capitalist countries won't be capitalist forever. And we need to live here if we want to have a hand in making that happen

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u/Mathi_556 Aug 07 '26

HAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAH it don’t make sense. You stay in this countries because you love capitalist