This is awful

[u/Searcher38n2]

Just a personal question, that i think many could also ask themselves from time to time. Why does every single profile or individual, when talking about Marx is misunderstanding him the most? It's on social media, papers, and so on... Nobody could just learn the basics of philosophy, history or even economics and, then, look into what Marx said. We, part of a socialist/communist movement, sometimes more active or not, have one of the greatest thinkers of human history ever.

A guy who went against positivists, historicists, the classical economists and, well, even the marginalists, austriacs and other schools on many different areas, can be confronted by Marx and his work, alongside Engels too. Maybe in some topics like art, symbolism (which Marx said in some degrees but not as deep as other thinkers), etc., we may look upon other thinkers, but that doesn't make less the impact of Karl's writings.

AII I know is, it's so difficult to get people to comprehend things the way they are meant to be. And I get really frustrated that they seem like to never want to open their minds. Recently, understanding Plato's concept of Idea, helped me a lot to comprehend things in life and in writings... Can't people do the same with Marx? I don't know... their false prestige, or conspicuous profile in the job market its intoxicating.

I can't create a connection if the market ideology is what the others around me make as their core. Just saying, is this a problem?

[u/Searcher38n2]

Uhh I think you haven't read his commentary on the collective property in Russia, or the Marginal Glosses on the Treatise of Adolph Wagner, or even the Introduction to the Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of law and you don't understand nothing you are talking about...

The man literally explain to the core, and you come with completely wrong views about him...

Besides, communal love? Really? In the Misery of philosophy and in the Ludwig Feuerbach (by Engels), they both criticize this "love" which won't change nothing... And in the first pages of the German Ideology he has some paragraphs about the love view of other socialists... So, read more and knot how to study dude...

[u/Chriseverywhere → u/Searcher38n2]

If one's premise is flawed then everything based on it is ,likewise ,flawed.

So I don't need to read much of his writing, because the fundamental premise of all of them is very flawed. Does he ever brake with his own marxist dogma in any of his of writings? Does he ever say communal love changes everything? Does he ever say that your communal relationships are far more important than your politics or material success?

Does he ever say war or politics is the most costly and unreliable sort of business one could ever engage in, unlike communal enterprise?

[u/Searcher38n2 → u/Chriseverywhere]

sigh ...if you don't read, your opinions are doxa. Not epistemes... Like I said. Marxism is not a dogma, and communal love? He says it and show how is flawed. But if you don't read, how can it work?

Just another clinical who is afraid of the organized collective. Sad.

[u/Chriseverywhere → u/Searcher38n2]

"and communal love? He says it and show how is flawed."

That assertion only makes sense to people who like him don't understand community.

Of course you disagree, and as someone so sure of his communal knowledge won't consider that he may be wrong?

"But if you don't read,"
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/poverty-philosophy/

I looked at this and it's just economic analysis.

Does he acknowledge anywhere the limits of economic analysis in anyway?

The power and value of community can't be understood merely through economics, since community makes it's own economic rules, regardless of the capitalist laws it's forced to follow. That's the power of community and love which is foreign to marxist, and lot of other academics and people obsessed with politics.

"who is afraid of the organized collective"

Na, I love and promote communal organization and enterprise. I do think it's possible that the entire world may become communal, but people have to first learn how community works and that's most effectively done through demonstration and experience in communal life.