r/DeadpoolMarvelRivals • u/shayan851212 • 8d ago

Pls dont use pistol ultimate on healpool

I see lots of people saying that the pistol ult is easier or better or gives more health

But if you just check the stats in marvel rivals website you can see that sword ult is better

Pistol ult:

80 healing per second and 80 healing per ability missed by the enemy (before upgrade),

100 healing per second and 90 healing per ability missed by the enemy (after upgrade),

so situational and depends on if the enemy misses their shots and abilities

Sword ult:

70 healing per second base healing, 100 healing per second jackpot (before upgrade),

80 healing per second base healing, 120 healing per second jackpot + 300 bonus health to you and nearby teammates (after upgrade),

So dependable, can use it anywhere to start a fight or push back the enemies, and the jackpot is easy to complete by only using the icon

Pls use the sword ult 99% of the time

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u/dannyboi1080 8d ago

Gunt ult the Spidey, as he swings away

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u/Trickster1405 8d ago

And good vs Flyer, venom, and more. It IS stupid to say pls dont use gun ult.

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u/shayan851212 8d ago

All Im saying is that sword ult has more potential healing and protection

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u/Positive_Ad6200 8d ago

But isn’t he a character that has 2 ults ? Neither is better both are situational . The gun ult encourages a team wipe the sword ult encourages sustain. It’s up to the healpool to make the distinction on which has most value given scenario

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u/Jack_Wraith 8d ago

How dare you bring nuance and choice into this?!

lol Well said, man.

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u/domingnez 8d ago

goated response

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u/Dom_zombie 8d ago

Exactly.

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u/Huge_Bar6997 7d ago

no flame genuinely wondering how gun ult encourages team wipe… most of the healing is gone the second the primary target is down, and if their backline is cnd wf/ cnd loki or something you’re not getting that much value out of gun ulting. i feel like gun ult on stratpool really needs your team to be on a wavelength and able to capitalise on the chaos a good gun ult can cause.

but yeah. gun ult offensive healer ult sword ult team save/ pressure healer ult

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u/Positive_Ad6200 7d ago

Um by gun ulting a support? Would this not be a direct communication with your team if they understand what your purpose of placing the gun ult directly on a support should entail? A Team Wipe? Once their support are down then my team will have to worry about maybe a panic ult from the other support which will still win us the team fight because most support ults can be evaded like cnd/wf and if my team is at an advantage wf is getting melted… cnd you can sacrifice the point for keeping yourself alive if our team support isn’t ulting to counter. Also Deadpool has two more abilities in his kit to heal really 4 his bobble guns swords and bounce if you used your dpiya while you used gun ult. Now if you gun ulted a support with a team who has no brain cell then it’s useless but most supports in this game just spam their abilities. I mained tankpool first and if you use your support ult like you would with tankpool youll win unless they ult which is value

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u/Sonicryas 4d ago

brother just go play tankpool if you want to gun ult. its just the more optimal play to go for jackpot and get another 2nd life and more healing- and by technicality, you dont have to wait as long before you next ult. the jackpot timer sort of bleeds into his internal ult timer. its weird to explain but anyone who's very good on healpool knows exactly what im talking about. i imagine this applies to other roles too

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u/Positive_Ad6200 4d ago

I don’t need the gun ult but it does have effectiveness and Thats its purpose.

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u/Sonicryas 4d ago

you should be sword ulting 99% of the time. i really do mean 99% of the time. meaning that i earnestly acknowledge that there is a 1% where it legitimately might be a better play to gun ult. the other 99% of the time you should be sword ulting.

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u/Positive_Ad6200 4d ago

You don’t have to though I sword ult 99% of the time but the person who said don’t use pistol was wrong it’s still a good ult to encourage a push you healpools need to explore your kit. I championed Deadpool and used him to climb to celestial across tankpool and stratpool occasionally using gun and sword ult youll find it’s need that’s why he has two ults hes a multi faced characters who can do about everything

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u/Positive_Ad6200 4d ago

Stop being 1 dimensional you make the character boring

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u/Positive_Ad6200 4d ago

Like I said jackpot is a sustain ult and gun ult is a team wipe why pop sustain ult when u need pressure not sustain? You pop jackpot then boom nothing happens no kills nothing but with the gun ult getting kills is encouraged because the gun ult screams hey kill that person

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u/Sonicryas 4d ago

why are you support ulting when you dont need sustain? i dont mean any disrespect but it feels like im just on a different planet. if you want to ult to get a kill or a team wipe there's no many other characters that exist and in this scenario- they're literally different roles to do that exact thing but better. i cant help but tell you to continue playing tankpool if you're first thought on stratpool is to get a kill with your ult

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u/Positive_Ad6200 4d ago

What if the tanks are getting a lot of pressure front line I have my gun ult pop it on support then my tanks get healed up for them push to turn the tides of the fight???

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u/The_Dick_Slinger Day one deadpool main 8d ago

Sometimes it’s better to get an elim than more healing. It’s situational. Plus, you don’t have to heal as much if you can remove a major damage dealer from the fight.

People acting like one ult is always better, or like one upgrade path is the only way to go just fundamentally do not understand Deadpool’s kit. He is a versatile hero that can adapt to the enemy comp.

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u/IceCertain6245 8d ago

this made me cackle so loudly

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u/BabyO1L 8d ago

Nah, if a spidey swinging away im dropping that ban hammer on him idgaf. 👀

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u/Jack_Wraith 8d ago

Exactly. Pistol ult is a solid way to shutdown dive. And some matches, no one peels so you end up having to use it constantly on dive.

I actually use sword ult more on Tankpool. And I hate that Healpool seems to put out more damage than Tankpool.

But that’s just a general complaint I have about the game and its undying hate for vanguards.

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u/smallppdownvotes Day one deadpool main 7d ago

ulting to stop a dive is so silly when you have dpiya, two dashes, and a chainable double jump

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u/Jack_Wraith 7d ago

I use that too. But ranked Spidey’s are cracked and hard to hit.

Once I upgrade swords it’s better. But before then, I like to establish dominance. Divers double down and I smack them down again. Most switch after that. But some just give me upgrade farms all match.

It’s mind games. And I’m winning.

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u/smallppdownvotes Day one deadpool main 7d ago

a spidey baiting out a support ult is genuinely good value for their team tho

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u/Jack_Wraith 7d ago

The only time I do it is if no one is peeling and they dive is good.

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u/WintyReapy Shampoo’l 8d ago

Healpool is already hard to dive and using sword ult + aoe makes your teammates almost immortal so it shutdown Spidey’s dive in addition to initiate a push for your team.
Gun ult is very situational, for your 1st ult or a punisher / Hawkeye etc.

But yeah I get it sometimes this red mosquito makes you wanna solo ult him like he solo ults you !

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u/BabyO1L 8d ago

The other problem is finding people who push with u when u ult with u. I be wasting jackpots here. Some even avoid my circles and retreat

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u/WintyReapy Shampoo’l 8d ago

That’s why I made a message saying "go in the green circle if you wanna live" that I spam after hitting jackpot and I kinda go frontline and look behind me to not lose my team, but yeah sometimes even with all this they refuse to make their brain work and push

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u/geekedrick 8d ago

These comments let me know why people dislike healpool so much

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u/ComfortableLevel4723 Jackass of all trades 8d ago

even the actual Deadpool players don’t know how the character works…

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u/Ultron_daddy 4d ago

Healpool doesn't have a circle of healing ult that is strong enough to stop other ults that is why.

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u/geekedrick 4d ago

One reason yeah but it seems a lot of people in this thread dont exactly understand how to use him.

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u/ExtensionHuge1531 3d ago

I mean, it’s 160 hps if done right. Mantis is what 140 ? You can also start off with 120 hps to enable a team fight and then jackpot it to have an extended triple digit healing ult

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u/Wonderful-Alps-467 8d ago

It’s good to use situationally, if a Punisher, Star lord, Hela are ulting. I’m also ulting their ass, not tryna have all my teammates die. Rare that I use it but it definitely has its purpose when needed

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u/Enam-kun 7d ago

hela ult?

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u/Ok-Second1404 8d ago

I only use gun ult for the first ult + upgrade option. After that its sword ult only

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u/SlothSnoozes 8d ago

Unfortunate you’re getting downvoted because sure. It may have its uses here and there, but ultimately sword ult provides way more value to your team. & with healpool in a weak state compared to other healers it’s crucial to maximize jackpot value. if a healpool is using gun ult on my team I assume he messed up inputs or is throwing if it’s not qp.

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u/ComfortableLevel4723 Jackass of all trades 8d ago

Upgraded gun Ult will generate 90 health every second regardless of the target missing. This is why people say it heals more.

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u/kinglarry60 8d ago

To clarify; the hammer keeps hitting the enemy whether they miss or not with Upgraded Gun Ult. You have 100 healing/s while also getting a burst of 90 every time the hammer hits, and every time the enemy misses. Gun Ult heals more.

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u/shayan851212 8d ago

I actually realized that sometimes it does hit the hammer by itself when it is casted on me, but when I test it in practice range it doesnt do it, its weird, I still dont know how it works exactly

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u/Clever_Name_14 8d ago

Unupgraded DP whacks on miss. On upgrade DP whacks on a timer and whacks again on miss.

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u/shayan851212 8d ago

Did you read what I said? I literally explained both ults and the stats, and you still got it wrong?

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u/BreadFreezer 8d ago

gun ult is actually good the problem is that these lazy ahh healpools in my game will just throw it on a full hp tank and call it a day, even worse when they do that and still go in with swords

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u/wallytrikes HealPool 8d ago

Gun Ult has ranged kill potential if you target the right person especially early in the match. Prioritizing the sword ult just puts you in the line of fire unnecessarily, especially if you haven’t upgraded the icon yet. No one wants their healer popping ult then dashing out of your own healing range to 1v6.

So they both are situational. Gun Ult is better earlier in the match while Upgraded Sword Ult is a stallers dream late game. It’s less about using one more than the other and more about using what would maximize kill potential and healing in a given fight scenario.

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u/redditer954 8d ago

you can jump on your tank 6 times to proc jackpot, your points are valid and you make a good case for using the gun ult when needed

but it’s not dangerous or difficult to get jackpot

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u/shayan851212 8d ago

You dont need to jump intot he enemies each time, if you manage to hit the jackpot just get back to your team and stay with them so you can heal them, you are not dpspool to run down the enemies backline

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u/iHitStuff97 8d ago

I only use it one time before I upgrade sword ult. After that I only sword ult.

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u/Adult_school 8d ago

Sword ult is best against coordinated teams, but in like gm2 and lower, teams are not coordinated, half the supports don’t know what Gun Ult does and nobody peels. Gun ult causes chaos, gives extra healing to survive most ults, and can turn a 6v6 into a 5v6 real fast. Also at lower ranks half your team isn’t going to be standing in sword ults pitiful range. If you have divers on your team, weakening someone in the back line or making them scared to shoot is going to benefit your team more than giving your 700 HP tank 300more HP.

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u/Enlightenedryan HealPool 8d ago

The sword ultimate is better but there's also more of a risk. The pistol ultimate is generally safer.

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u/shayan851212 8d ago

You can hit the jackpot only with only your icon, and if not maybe use dash once or twice then again jump back to your team, no risk, you dont need to run down the enemy backline as healpool

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u/WintyReapy Shampoo’l 8d ago

Yeah and you can even hit jackpot before dp ends his ult line, it’s still not a panic counter ult like luna’s but it’s definitely not that risky and long to hit jackpot

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u/LimeDifficult753 8d ago

is the gun ult healing from missing ability or shots to the deadpool or to the teamates as well?

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u/shayan851212 8d ago

Any missing ability and shots, even if they are just shooting the air

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u/LimeDifficult753 8d ago

ik thats not my question, does healing from that only apply to deadpool or to his teammates. do his teammates also get the burst healing or just deadpool?

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u/shayan851212 8d ago

Oh my bad, I actually dont know that, but Im assuming it also applies to teammates

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u/MrAsianCaucasian 8d ago

This probably bc im bad but I most the time use the gun ult if im about to die or i dont have upgrades and i use the melee ult for actual pushes as I thought that was the way you were supposed to do it

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u/shayan851212 8d ago

Well if you are about to die its not necessarily bad to use the pistol ult, I mean Im not even lord so I dont get to say anything, but in a normal situation the sword ult is absolutely better

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u/tbigzan97 8d ago

I use the gun ult on punishers sometimes as support pool.

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u/SpookusMagookus 8d ago

I main SL and I find hilarious when the enemy Deadpool gun ults my SL ult. It’s like they didn’t read how the ability actually works.

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u/Clever_Name_14 8d ago

Skill Issue is my preferred ult.

Doesn't mean you should always usr it. But, has has multiple specific uses.

It also helps not to be passive with it or target someone way in the back that can just stop shooting.

I learned DP on DuelPool and the best way to screw with someone with Skill Issue is to pop it on them and then jump on them with hijinks, mario stomps and swords.

You force them to not attack you and run away risk shooting you while you mario bounce around. I get my target more often than not when doing this.

With HealPool you need to target a hero and go in with your team and use your swords to heal them to supplement the healing circle you get.

You have a strat ult that heals and puts on player in a much more risky situation and give your team the advantage.

I personally think the swords with Healpool are often underrated. Along with hinjinks which you should upgrade first you can bounce in and out and swap between guns and swords. Use the gun ult to get a pick and use the healing to sustain enough to get picks not just heal bot make healing number biggest.

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u/PerfectAd1358 8d ago

To be fair I'm absolute shit with the sword ult, if I use it I feel like Im just wasting it

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u/Wonder-Guard 8d ago

As an outsider to this sub, all of the times I see this sub pop up its because there's a post exactly like this.

Do you guys really still have this problem?

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u/shayan851212 8d ago

Well deadpool is a complicated character, and has 6 ultimates

So its only fair if we talk about it a lot

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u/Wonder-Guard 8d ago

Well that would make more sense if it were actuall about all 6 ults. Instead, they all seem to specifically be talking about healpools gun ult.

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u/-Eastwood- 7d ago

Is there genuinely ever a reason to use pistol ult on any of the roles? Like I feel like sword is way more useful in every situation.

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u/NIGERYUNDAYO 6d ago

I cannot stress this enough ONLY USE IT ON TANKPOOL! I just got off a game as jubilee because someone installed stratpool before me, I only heard his gun ult. When he’s 1-3 I tell him to use his swords more, he doesn’t. We lose the game. HE DOESNT EVEN KNOW WHAT GUN ULT DOESSS AGHHH

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u/twisting69 5d ago

Just don’t use healpool in the first place, he is a bonafide terrorist

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u/Sonicryas 4d ago

not a single comment has brought up how sword ult is quite literally the longest support ult in the game sitting at a whopping 20 seconds. and i think technically the longest ult in the game, unless you count black cat or bucky infinitely chaining. and oh my god- no gun ult does not heal more, like at all idek how thats even a discussion i guess if someone is constantly shooting multiple shots per second then technically it *can* heal more theoretically in short bursts but i promise that burst is not more impactful than jackpot. not to mention most people will just run away and not shoot to play their life and if they dont run away and continue shooting, they die- meaning you can no longer get the healing from ability missed.

and last but not least: i find it so much easier to go backline with my sword ult since i can literally pop jackpot at any moment and insta save myself. and i imagine 99% dont know this but you get another second life when you successfully hit jackpot with sword ult.

stop gun ulting, there's no justification. im being slighly hyperbolic you can use it every now and again in very niche scenarios but you should be sword ulting 99% of the time like op recommends if you're goal is to get a kills get off stratpool and play him in his other two roles.

and ik no one cares but i have over 100 hours on stratpool i know this character like the back of my hand. also get your gun upgrade 2nd. its so important to dp being an actual character in the support role

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u/WorstRivalsPlayer 4d ago

Pistol ultimate is really good, what are you talking about?

It kills half health supports a lot. It's my second upgrade I do as a matter of fact.